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  • #621
  • May 31, 2016 12:46am May 31, 2016 12:46am
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} Firstly your inputs Secondly the correct inputs I suspect you did not download the companion update. {image} {image}
Hi Dave

Thanks for your help but it would appear that something may be astray?
Used the file as updated as per your post.
Please advise ... many thanks

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  • #622
  • May 31, 2016 1:48am May 31, 2016 1:48am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Hi Dave Thanks for your help but it would appear that something may be astray? Used the file as updated as per your post. Please advise ... many thanks {image}
The file in Post #619 is the file to which I made reference.
  • #623
  • May 31, 2016 1:55am May 31, 2016 1:55am
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} The file in Post #619 is the file to which I made reference.
Hi Dave

Correct, I updated the file in Post 619 as per your image #2 in Post 620 and the result was no trade on the backtest as per the screenshot in Post 621.

So it would appear there is an error somewhere.

Please advise ... many thanks
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  • #624
  • Edited 2:23am May 31, 2016 2:08am | Edited 2:23am
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Hi Dave Correct, I updated the file in Post 619 as per your image #2 in Post 620 and the result was no trade on the backtest as per the screenshot in Post 621. So it would appear there is an error somewhere. Please advise ... many thanks
I looked at Slope.mq4 again and my mistake, the relevant buffer no. was 2 not 3.
  • #625
  • May 31, 2016 4:01pm May 31, 2016 4:01pm
hello dave_c , you may make an EA you place 20 orders buy stop and 20​ orders sell stop from 0,20 size and when it comes to a $ 10 tp closes all orders and starts
  • #626
  • May 31, 2016 5:39pm May 31, 2016 5:39pm
Hello Dave,
Would you please elaborate more on the settings for passing parameters to custom indicators. Backtests shows different results depending on if I pass the input parameters from the setfile or if use the standard settings of the indicator. The attached zip contains the backtests, the indicator and the setfiles I used.
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  • #627
  • May 31, 2016 5:51pm May 31, 2016 5:51pm
Hello Dave_C:

Can your program enter buy orders when price moves up to the lowest H1 open of the day and sell orders when price moves down to the highest H1 open of the day?
Or would an indicator have to be written to send the signal to your program?

This is HIGHEST OPEN / LOWEST OPEN TRADE thread: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=590623

Thank you.
My Threads: Trading is as simple as 1-2-3, Highest Open / Lowest Open Trade
  • #628
  • May 31, 2016 6:17pm May 31, 2016 6:17pm
Quoting mickael58
hello dave_c , you may make an EA you place 20 orders buy stop and 20​ orders sell stop from 0,20 size and when it comes to a $ 10 tp closes all orders and starts
That is outside the scope of Agility Trader. If you PM me, we can discuss this further as a commercial arrangement.
  • #629
  • May 31, 2016 6:31pm May 31, 2016 6:31pm
Quoting vtt1
Hello Dave, Would you please elaborate more on the settings for passing parameters to custom indicators. Backtests shows different results depending on if I pass the input parameters from the setfile or if use the standard settings of the indicator. The attached zip contains the backtests, the indicator and the setfiles I used. {file}
When passing user parameters, as per the documentation, multiply the values required by 10. Post #580 refers. For example if you require 165 then input 1650.

Also if you are nominating Positions 2 and 3 for inputs in your User Indicator definition, then you must supply values at Parameters 2 and 3 in your conditions, not just leave at zero.
  • #630
  • May 31, 2016 6:32pm May 31, 2016 6:32pm
Quoting TooSlow
Hello Dave_C: Can your program enter buy orders when price moves up to the lowest H1 open of the day and sell orders when price moves down to the highest H1 open of the day? Or would an indicator have to be written to send the signal to your program? This is HIGHEST OPEN / LOWEST OPEN TRADE thread: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=590623 Thank you.
There is provision to enter at highest or lowest prices. Please read the documentation.
  • #631
  • May 31, 2016 6:53pm May 31, 2016 6:53pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} There is provision to enter at highest or lowest prices. Please read the documentation.
I did read the documentation.
Can not determine how to do it.
I am too slow.

Need to enter at highest/lowest H1 open for the day.
Not highest/lowest price of the day.
Can this be done by your program?

Thank you.
My Threads: Trading is as simple as 1-2-3, Highest Open / Lowest Open Trade
  • #632
  • May 31, 2016 8:16pm May 31, 2016 8:16pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} I looked at Slope.mq4 again and my mistake, the relevant buffer no. was 2 not 3.
Hi Dave

Made the changes as you said in Post 624.

It appears that the custom indicator part of Agility may have an issue ... explanation below:

See below Chart screen shot #1 is Agility loaded, Custom Indicator "Slope" loaded
Settings - 23
Back test Report - exactly the same as 120 no matter Slope settings = 23

See below Chart screen shot #2 is Agility loaded, Custom Indicator "Slope" loaded
Settings - 120
Back test Report - exactly the same as 23 no matter Slope settings = 120

Your assistance appreciated ...

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  • #633
  • May 31, 2016 8:51pm May 31, 2016 8:51pm
Quoting TooSlow
{quote} I did read the documentation. Can not determine how to do it. I am too slow. Need to enter at highest/lowest H1 open for the day. Not highest/lowest price of the day. Can this be done by your program? Thank you.
You will have to do it through a custom indicator coding which has been explained in this thread and on video otherwise refer to Post #628.
  • #634
  • May 31, 2016 9:06pm May 31, 2016 9:06pm
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Hi Dave Made the changes as you said in Post 624. It appears that the custom indicator part of Agility may have an issue ... explanation below: See below Chart screen shot #1 is Agility loaded, Custom Indicator "Slope" loaded Settings - 23 Back test Report - exactly the same as 120 no matter Slope settings = 23 See below Chart screen shot #2 is Agility loaded, Custom Indicator "Slope" loaded Settings - 120 Back test Report - exactly the same as 23 no matter Slope settings = 120 Your assistance appreciated ... {image} {image}
Those settings relate to the Custom Indicator not Agility Trader.

Agility Trader is reading the value of the buffer Slope Output which produces a +1 or a -1 to produce a trade signal.

When the value changes is a matter relating to the code of the indicator itself.
  • #635
  • May 31, 2016 9:19pm May 31, 2016 9:19pm
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} Those settings relate to the Custom Indicator not Agility Trader. Agility Trader is reading the value of the buffer Slope Output which produces a +1 or a -1 to produce a trade signal. When the value changes is a matter relating to the code of the indicator itself.
Hi Dave

My understanding is that Agility reads the Custom Indicator - hence the reason for the input of the custom indicator settings - correct?

So when the Custom Indicator settings change e.g. in the case of Slope from say 23 to 120 as above Post 632 are you saying that Agility does not act on that change in the Custom Indicator?

If Agility does not read that change in the indicator then what are the Agility settings required to make it perform correctly with the Slop Indicator with a setting of 23?

Response, detailed if necessary, appreciated.
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  • #636
  • Edited 10:08pm May 31, 2016 9:35pm | Edited 10:08pm
Quoting PayItForward
{quote} Hi Dave My understanding is that Agility reads the Custom Indicator - hence the reason for the input of the custom indicator settings - correct? So when the Custom Indicator settings change e.g. in the case of Slope from say 23 to 120 as above Post 632 are you saying that Agility does not act on that change in the Custom Indicator? If Agility does not read that change in the indicator then what are the Agility settings required to make it perform correctly with the Slop Indicator with a setting of 23? Response, detailed if necessary, appreciated....
I explained in the previous post that the only setting that Agility Trader is reading in this case is Buffer Number 2 which only has 2 values, +1 and -1. When that value changes is outside the control of Agility Trader.

Nothing more needs to be said!

If you wish to change the settings from Agility Trader, then you will have to nominate the position of the user inputs and then multiply them by 10 (refer Post #629) and nominate them in your parameters. (From what you say - amending the parameters has no effect anyway?) Best you look at the code and discuss it with the author. I will not get involved with that coding.

EDIT: I have sent you a PM
  • #637
  • Edited 1:25am Jun 1, 2016 12:31am | Edited 1:25am
Quoting Dave_C
{quote} I explained in the previous post that the only setting that Agility Trader is reading in this case is Buffer Number 2 which only has 2 values, +1 and -1. When that value changes is outside the control of Agility Trader. Nothing more needs to be said! If you wish to change the settings from Agility Trader, then you will have to nominate the position of the user inputs and then multiply them by 10 (refer Post #629) and nominate them in your parameters. (From what...
hmmm ... got your PM Dave ... interesting and I will leave it for others to decide ... is dealing with Agility and you worth all the issues?

SUPPORT - where is the support?

Agility has failed to work with the custom indicator "Slope" and Slope can be found everywhere - search Google ... and Dave_C has refused to provide a support solution (this is for a paid product Agility Companion)

If you ask for support with Dave's advertised, here on FF PAID Commercial Companion, for Agility ... Agility Trader ... you won't get the necessary support from Dave_C ... see previous posts for evidence ... you ask for support and he tells you and I quote:

"discuss it with the author. I will not get involved ..."

Then you see he has changed his post #636 to EDIT: I have sent you a PM (as above)

You get a PM from him and after he says here "I will not get involved" ... I now understand the reason for the PM ... he does not want the issue made public here.

And the PM from Dave_C says and I quote:

"When you apologize for your abruptness, I will deal with you otherwise go and annoy somebody else." see screenshot below:

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My suggestion to anyone considering using Agility, and or paying the Commercial Fee for the Agility Companion, and then rightly expecting any support is to look back over this thread about all the issues others have had ... and then also take a look at Dave_C other thread Agility Heatmap and the issues users have had there ... and then make up your mind whether this is a waste of time ...

Maybe the best idea, considering the issues and lack of support, is to forget it and save your money ... that of course is a decision for each individual and I warmly wish you all the best with any assistance you may or may not receive from Dave_C ... but remember if you do ask for support be very careful how you do it or you may be ... "told to apologise or you wont be supported" ...

NB - The issue here is SUPPORT or the lack of it for either a free or paid product ... just look back on this thread and his other thread and see how they have both slowly faded away - why? Every thread he has started has done the same thing, maybe that is why he starts new ones all the time ... who knows.

LACK OF SUPPORT - he want users to point out the issues they have with Agility so he does not have to spend his time doing his own research & development to provide a quality product and then once he gets something commercial he calls it a Companion and charges for it ... is this a commercial thread or is he a commercial member ... what are the rules here on FF?

This thread is no different to life ... USER BEWARE ... time is precious ... try not to waste it ... PAY IT FORWARD ... by helping others ...

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  • #638
  • Edited 2:12am Jun 1, 2016 1:00am | Edited 2:12am
Here is the full (unedited) text of the PM that I sent. I will leave it up to you to form your own opinion. If you decide to copy someone else's indicator please understand what you are dealing with.

Note that the EA is free and usable without the companion upgrade which was not the issue.

QUOTE:
Richard

I have bent over backwards to help you. Far beyond any other user but you seem to have blinkers or are obsessed with this issue.

I've even gone into the code to try to explain what you are looking for. Just remember, that this indicator was borrowed from another user. You need to understand what you are dealing with. Do you really want the value of the SlopeOutput buffer or something else.

When you apologize for your abruptness, I will deal with you otherwise go and annoy somebody else.

Regards
Dave

Note: I have withheld the text of the PM that I received before this reply.

EDIT: Please note that this user edited his post above to include the PM 's above (out of order) only after I uploaded this post.
  • #639
  • Edited 2:16am Jun 1, 2016 1:30am | Edited 2:16am
I must admit I was not expecting such a vitriolic outburst but it seems that there are a few hangups on User Indicators. Agility Trader is not a toy and if you don't understand User Indicators after reading the thread and the video, please consider not using them.

Following an inquiry from a user on use of Traders Dynamic Index, this has provided a good opportunity to provide an example set file and the associated mq4 indicator file which is well commented regarding it's use. I am not the author of that file.

Please look at the set file and the mq4 file as they provide a good example of use of User Indicators. (Note: Parameters are multiplied by 10. Refer Post #580)
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  • #640
  • Edited 7:53am Jun 1, 2016 1:44am | Edited 7:53am
I realise that some of you have a need for more than 2 buffer reads on User Indicators and this is an indication of the project as it will stand in about a months time.

Single click backtesting and optimization. Optimization times within 1 min on single click and 5 mins on detailed. Automatic download of Data or User supplied data.

In the meantime look at the Agility Heatmap thread as we are just at the beginning of something special without the use of indicators. Just a question of taming the tiger and unleashing the dynamic capabilities of the Heatmap. This is a work in progress in parallel with this thread.
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