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  • #3,801
  • Edited 3:14pm May 25, 2016 1:50pm | Edited 3:14pm
Same PA on ECAD.

That big engulf looks like Darth Vader's light saber.
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  • #3,802
  • May 25, 2016 2:12pm May 25, 2016 2:12pm
Here we go - GU.. Upper entry looks late but check H1

This could go higher but we're deep into H4 supply so why not collect some pips.

Love this little engulf indicator on the AG supdem v2, even gives audio alerts.
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  • #3,803
  • May 25, 2016 2:51pm May 25, 2016 2:51pm
GA, just a single add on this one. Makes sense?
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  • #3,804
  • May 25, 2016 2:56pm May 25, 2016 2:56pm
GCHF also, great PA.
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  • #3,805
  • May 25, 2016 3:00pm May 25, 2016 3:00pm
Got another CJ add on with the PA.
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  • #3,806
  • May 25, 2016 3:53pm May 25, 2016 3:53pm
Damn. GN moved faster than expected.
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  • #3,807
  • May 25, 2016 4:15pm May 25, 2016 4:15pm
Hi everyone, especially C-12,
Thank you very much for everything you are teaching us. Again: Thank you for everything. In my trading I apply some of your ideas about trading and money management. And all is important.

I operate in D1, engulfs and good PB mostly, on WK areas of supply and demand + SR, drawing manually.
I'd be grateful if you could explain when you consider a ENGULF? You have rules for it?

In any case, thanks and continuous please

regards,

fex
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  • #3,808
  • May 25, 2016 4:30pm May 25, 2016 4:30pm
Quoting C-12
Damn. GN moved faster than expected. {image}
Great trading C12.. how do you find all these opportunities? do you always check the charts or you have any other mechanism to identify when an engulf happens at a supply/demand zone?
  • #3,809
  • May 25, 2016 4:30pm May 25, 2016 4:30pm
Hi Fex

Good to see you onboard with S&D trading. There are so many ways to play S/D and PA and across many timeframes so it's good to build your style and personality around it.

Engulf is a concept that people have a wide difference of opinion. I like to imagine the engulf as a candle formation what would form a S/D zone once it's created.

Ideally you want to trade them with trend / higher time-frame or at high quality SD zones.

Let me dig out some charts and see if I can clarify.
  • #3,810
  • May 25, 2016 4:36pm May 25, 2016 4:36pm
Ok here's a quick chart as a general reference.

Notice the one I've marked as "Potential engulf" . I would never take a trade in that random location (and this candle hasn't confirmed) but you can watch them form as the candle closes to confirm with the direction you want to trade in.

As price engulfs and begins to move away, you then have a "Fresh S/D zone" that can bring you a trade with trend.

The lowest engulf on the chart is excellent due to location.
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  • #3,811
  • May 25, 2016 4:46pm May 25, 2016 4:46pm
GU - Check your H4 chart why lowest engulf was high quality. One above it is with trend.

You can play these when you've got your direction confirmed.
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  • #3,812
  • May 25, 2016 4:52pm May 25, 2016 4:52pm
Quoting C-12
GU - Check your H4 chart why lowest engulf was high quality. One above it is with trend. You can play these when you've got your direction confirmed. {image}
May I know how is that two candle zone drawn (blue-ish background)? is it using the same indi with higher timeframe setup or you are drawing it manually?
  • #3,813
  • May 25, 2016 4:57pm May 25, 2016 4:57pm
Quoting tradeforlife
{quote} Great trading C12.. how do you find all these opportunities? do you always check the charts or you have any other mechanism to identify when an engulf happens at a supply/demand zone?
Mostly just flicking through the charts, I get a general feel for higher time-frame direction and watch as fresh PA develops.

It's just practice really but you see how the pip counter can really rack up fast when you get into sync with the market.

So basically you don't want to fight the market, you ideally want to participate.

The problem with pure zone trading (ie - Sam Seiden zone trading at zone with stop behind it) is you're counting on price to turn without PA confirmation and going against the flow of the market.
  • #3,814
  • May 25, 2016 5:20pm May 25, 2016 5:20pm
The other thing as well is you want a moving market to trade with clean PA. One of the reasons I've not seen any trades on EU / UCHF today is the pairs are dead and PA is messy. Nothing to do there... Lots of great action on GBP and CAD crosses today.
  • #3,815
  • May 25, 2016 5:31pm May 25, 2016 5:31pm
Quoting C-12
The other thing as well is you want a moving market to trade with clean PA. One of the reasons I've not seen any trades on EU / UCHF today is the pairs are dead and PA is messy. Nothing to do there... Lots of great action on GBP and CAD crosses today.

thanks a lot for your tips C12. appreciate it.. very useful...
  • #3,816
  • May 25, 2016 5:49pm May 25, 2016 5:49pm
Quoting C-12
GU - Check your H4 chart why lowest engulf was high quality. One above it is with trend. You can play these when you've got your direction confirmed. {image}
Golden seeds, this thread its a mine. Gratefully

Im same opinion about SS SD pure style. SD+PA is a good way as well for me. I'm comfortable with what I do, in daily TF operation and weekly SD. But surprisingly, your skills in lower TF (in which I suppose I am a rock sinking), is magnificent. Wow. Keep it up. Many thanks.
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  • #3,817
  • May 26, 2016 6:46am May 26, 2016 6:46am
Quoting C-12
Here we go - GU.. Upper entry looks late but check H1 This could go higher but we're deep into H4 supply so why not collect some pips. Love this little engulf indicator on the AG supdem v2, even gives audio alerts. {image}
Hi C-12,
is this the supdem indicator you have posted together with your template?
  • #3,818
  • May 26, 2016 11:02am May 26, 2016 11:02am
Quoting MCFly
{quote} Hi C-12, is this the supdem indicator you have posted together with your template?
Oh no, this is Ken's AG indi. I think he paid for this so not something he wanted passing around.

It's just the same as the usual one with just a few nifty tweaks, like engulf and new zone alarms.
  • #3,819
  • May 26, 2016 11:03am May 26, 2016 11:03am
Got a few trades in but I'm finding this a bit tricky due to work. My work quality is suffering to be honest.

Anyway... GA
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  • #3,820
  • May 26, 2016 11:05am May 26, 2016 11:05am
GN
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