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  • #841
  • May 23, 2016 8:34am May 23, 2016 8:34am
Quoting mojepole
{quote} thank You very much. will test it next week All, enjoy the weekend ! PS. yesterday i closed Piggy earlier with 0,7% net profit. I had to went out and did not want to leave Piggy till closing the market.
FYI, Piggy hit the target on DAX today 1,09 % net profit and was just turned off.

regards
mojepole
  • #842
  • May 23, 2016 8:38am May 23, 2016 8:38am
Hi
Anyone have EA that making loss only in EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY, EURJPY, GBPJPY, USDCAD, USDCHF, AUDUSD or all pair. EA will make constant loss mean if i will open 5000$ then it will blow in 1 day or fast mean only loss in trade.
i have strategy if work then share here for all.
Thankx in advance
  • #843
  • May 23, 2016 10:02am May 23, 2016 10:02am
Quoting jdva
{quote} of course, that is correct, Daniel,... but the question was, whether Piggy EA does manage old positions further when PC was turned off and turned on again. This it does definitely! But unfortunately, in my case the Tradeinfo indi lost all data from past week over the weekend. Is that normal or is there a speciel setting to maintain them? Any help appreciated! Happy trading, jdva
Wish I could help you but I don't know much of that indi. If you setup a trade explorer and set a custom date to the days you have ran the EA, this might help?

Daniel
  • #844
  • May 23, 2016 10:06am May 23, 2016 10:06am
Quoting praful_patat
Hi Anyone have EA that making loss only in EURUSD, GBPUSD, USDJPY, EURJPY, GBPJPY, USDCAD, USDCHF, AUDUSD or all pair. EA will make constant loss mean if i will open 5000$ then it will blow in 1 day or fast mean only loss in trade. i have strategy if work then share here for all. Thankx in advance
Heh! I have a strategy too for this kind of EA. Just reverse the BUY and SELL conditions.

It works good on a lot of losing EAs. I am currently working on one that seems pretty successful when the conditions got reversed.

Daniel
  • #845
  • May 23, 2016 3:28pm May 23, 2016 3:28pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} Heh! I have a strategy too for this kind of EA. Just reverse the BUY and SELL conditions. It works good on a lot of losing EAs. I am currently working on one that seems pretty successful when the conditions got reversed. Daniel
hmm, normally this is not a very succesfull approach.
But hey... I am curious what you come up with.

Back to piggy... Running forward testing mode on one box, whilst the other is trying to optimize for the best gbp/usd settings.
So far, after 4 days of optimizing, I found one .set that has 60% yearly profit, and less DD than the initial deposit. Backtesting over a 6-year period.
Only 1600 hours of testing to go Lets see how far we can get.
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  • #846
  • May 23, 2016 11:02pm May 23, 2016 11:02pm
This wonderful EA still working, almost 30% in only two weeks, I hope to finish this month with 50%.

greetings
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  • #847
  • May 24, 2016 1:03am May 24, 2016 1:03am
Quoting Invermac
This wonderful EA still working, almost 30% in only two weeks, I hope to finish this month with 50%. greetings {image}
what settings did you use? Every test I'm doing so far seems to just blow the account out, no matter if its a 10k, 20k, 30k during really rough market areas.

Best regards
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  • #848
  • May 24, 2016 1:19am May 24, 2016 1:19am
Quoting keydcuk
{quote}I would not go as far to say that you need $10,000 per 0.01 lot but I would say you need somewhere in the region of $5-6k.
Hi Daniel,

I would because I've done the testing. I spent the last 10 days 24 hrs a day running almost every test you can think of. And the results are the same.

The ones that passed the strategy tester have odd TP levels while others even, and you cant use those odd levels; TP levels need to be of the same amount, as that of the buy and sell lot sizes.

Round numbers. Cant use a low one like 10 to 25 because too many trades are opened.

I'm not saying one was better than the other. I was talking from logical point of view, looks good in theory and was wondering if anyone had tried it? That's all

See, I've tried settings of (first two numbers are the buy and sell TP's, last number is the round number

1-1-50
1-1-40
3-3-50
3-3-40
10-10-50
10-10-40
100-100-100
200-200-200
300-300-300

And various even numbers in between. and I'm coming up stuck over and over again.

What settings have been working well for others? No one wants to give up the info - they just post images.

Best regards,
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  • #849
  • May 24, 2016 2:20am May 24, 2016 2:20am
Quoting FXCyborg
{quote} No one wants to give up the info - they just post images. ,
I think I posted an excel sheet with optimisation results.....

Anyway, be carefull with huge profit settings. My backtest showed so far (over 6 years) that it will also mean a risk of huge drawdown.
You can deal with this in a few ways:
be Lucky to enter in a "good period"
Take out profit regularly and "surf" on the winnings
Find settings that give less profit, but also less DD than the initial deposit.

I am aiming for the last option. When I get my ROI, I am prepared to take more risk
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  • #850
  • May 24, 2016 4:50am May 24, 2016 4:50am
Quoting FXCyborg
{quote} Hi Daniel, I would because I've done the testing. I spent the last 10 days 24 hrs a day running almost every test you can think of. And the results are the same. The ones that passed the strategy tester have odd TP levels while others even, and you cant use those odd levels; TP levels need to be of the same amount, as that of the buy and sell lot sizes. Round numbers. Cant use a low one like 10 to 25 because too many trades are opened. I'm not saying one was better than the other. I was talking from logical point of view, looks good in theory...
I have tested rigorously the EA and that is why I have left GBPYJPY 200 round numbers and 100 TP to be the recommended settings as they are the best long term settings I could find. You don't need $10,000 with these settings however as said, I think you need about $5-6k. I am not 100% about the numbers as I tun my account and test in £GBP but certainly not $10k needed.
  • #851
  • May 24, 2016 4:54am May 24, 2016 4:54am
Quoting Egosuma
{quote} hmm, normally this is not a very succesfull approach. But hey... I am curious what you come up with. Back to piggy... Running forward testing mode on one box, whilst the other is trying to optimize for the best gbp/usd settings. So far, after 4 days of optimizing, I found one .set that has 60% yearly profit, and less DD than the initial deposit. Backtesting over a 6-year period. Only 1600 hours of testing to go Lets see how far we can get.
As you can see from the graph, the approach can be very successful. You just need to know which EAs you can actually reverse conditions with.

The problem for me is not as much the reverse conditions, they worked out great. The greater problem is that it seems to backtest about 9 years brilliantly and flawlessly thinking I could have found a grail EA of some sort but to my disappointment when you check around 2008-Present it is very much plat P/L with a dip in losses.

I guess the Elite Big Brother Forex have decided to change the way the market moves around those years to present.

"Oh well, back to the drawing board!"

Daniel
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  • #852
  • May 24, 2016 9:26am May 24, 2016 9:26am
Quoting FXCyborg
{quote} what settings did you use? Every test I'm doing so far seems to just blow the account out, no matter if its a 10k, 20k, 30k during really rough market areas. Best regards
Hello FXCyborg,
sure here you go.

Put the set in GBPJPY and USDJPY chart, then leave the Piggy 24hours working. Is in .txt, delete this and have the .Set.

use piggy n the middle v4

nice day
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  • #853
  • May 24, 2016 10:34am May 24, 2016 10:34am
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} As you can see from the graph, the approach can be very successful. You just need to know which EAs you can actually reverse conditions with. The problem for me is not as much the reverse conditions, they worked out great. The greater problem is that it seems to backtest about 9 years brilliantly and flawlessly thinking I could have found a grail EA of some sort but to my disappointment when you check around 2008-Present it is very much plat P/L with a dip in losses. I guess the Elite Big Brother Forex have decided to change the way the...
Hey Daniel

Amazing graph, can you share this new parameters?

thank you
  • #854
  • May 24, 2016 1:44pm May 24, 2016 1:44pm
Currently forward testing the GBP/USD.
Today was not such a good day, still waiting for retracement.
Luckily I am forward testing to get familiar with the DD, otherwise i would start to feel uncomfortable.
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  • #855
  • May 24, 2016 5:30pm May 24, 2016 5:30pm
Quoting Invermac
{quote} Hey Daniel Amazing graph, can you share this new parameters? thank you
They are not from Piggy. It is a new EA I have made I am developing. The problem I am having is that after from 2000-2008, all great and up hill. From 2008 to present, very flat and slightly down turning in areas. I am still testing but I have found improvement in the slope when I get it to trade only between 19h00 - 7h00 GMT but I am still not satisfied with what I am seeing. If I can get the EA running to some satisfaction, I will share it with people but I don't want to start another wasted thread like Zig and Zag EA I started. There was no participation in it, and was a bit premature to share as I hadn't finished the EA to satisfaction.

This one here I am waiting... it could be a no starter if I can't solve something for the trade period of 2008-Present. So far so good but I am not going to be all excited about this yet. There is more work to do.

Daniel
  • #856
  • May 25, 2016 2:28am May 25, 2016 2:28am
Quoting mojepole
{quote} FYI, Piggy hit the target on DAX today 1,09 % net profit and was just turned off. regards mojepole
bad news, seems grid was too tight and DAX went up with shorts open. I had to close them manually not to hit margin call.
Well, going back to testing then.

Regards
mojepole
  • #857
  • May 25, 2016 3:04am May 25, 2016 3:04am
I think the DAX30 is not well suited to Piggy EA trading...because of its volatility, meaning strong trending periods without relevant retracements, especially in down mode it may easily going down 500 points per day and that's not even a crash scenario! Moreover overnight spread, at least at my broker, is pretty high.
Yesterday's range was 358 points going up constantly. To survive such a strong move, I guess one need a grid step of min. 50-100 points.

Happy trading, jdva
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  • #858
  • May 25, 2016 3:34am May 25, 2016 3:34am
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} ... it could be a no starter if I can't solve something for the trade period of 2008-Present. So far so good but I am not going to be all excited about this yet. There is more work to do. Daniel
Without knowing the strategy, maybe try the stop-loss settings? Risk more, more DD, but if the overall strategy is still sound then it should hold.
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  • #859
  • May 25, 2016 3:35am May 25, 2016 3:35am
DAX is applicable. Just need to find something to signal the big trends. For example, DOT multimeter. Close all before something worse happens.
Please excuse the bad English via Google Translate.
  • #860
  • May 25, 2016 3:47am May 25, 2016 3:47am
Quoting dokopy
DAX is applicable. Just need to find something to signal the big trends. For example, DOT multimeter. Close all before something worse happens.
apparently, you have found the Holy Grail...
I never lose - either I win or I learn...
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