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  • #21
  • May 19, 2016 5:36pm May 19, 2016 5:36pm
The market is just like a cockroach race: at any time and with much more betting options.
  • #22
  • May 19, 2016 5:39pm May 19, 2016 5:39pm
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} Well i guess that depends on what i'm trading. If i ever use fundamentals (i don't use it) and i'm looking for a USD trade for instance, I would first go look at the ISM. This is the insitute for supply management. This source gives you the exact bias for the US markets as well as reports from the leading manufacturing corporation's executives. This data usually gives you in advance about 12 months notification that the US market will be growing or declining. This is a leading indicator so it's the first thing i look at. I also have a look...

You said that (I don’t use it) and then you said you go on ism and whole thin simply this is the Fundamental analysis.

And you want to learn Fundamental Analysis are just asking?

I am doing Fundamental Analysis selecting pair like EURUSD than by reading Related newspaper, article and some important reports related to pair and then I compare the economic situation and development and social environment than watching Economic Calendar that which news are upcoming how much it will impact on pair.
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  • #23
  • May 19, 2016 5:46pm May 19, 2016 5:46pm
My little Fundamental Analysis By just Watching the Economic Calendar: I Am Bullish on USDCAD till :29 mean till one min before new release of CAD news:
Core CPI m/m
Core Retail Sales m/m
CPI m/m
Retail Sales m/m
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  • #24
  • May 19, 2016 7:42pm May 19, 2016 7:42pm
Quoting genierex
My little Fundamental Analysis By just Watching the Economic Calendar: I Am Bullish on USDCAD till :29 mean till one min before new release of CAD news: Core CPI m/m Core Retail Sales m/m CPI m/m Retail Sales m/m

Well obviously you have no understanding of economics. I highly doubt any intelligent conversation, so i'll be on my way.

Take care, Trade Well !
  • #25
  • May 19, 2016 9:40pm May 19, 2016 9:40pm
Hi Jay-Bakgat. From one Protea to another, the martingale as you described that you use is an absolute killer, be carefull.
  • #26
  • May 19, 2016 11:16pm May 19, 2016 11:16pm
Quoting johnvr
Hi Jay-Bakgat. From one Protea to another, the martingale as you described that you use is an absolute killer, be carefull.
Absolutely, once you're in that one wrong trade the margin will not last regardless of the size of the account.
Don't get mad, get even!
  • #27
  • May 20, 2016 6:30am May 20, 2016 6:30am
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} Well obviously you have no understanding of economics. I highly doubt any intelligent conversation, so i'll be on my way. Take care, Trade Well !

I don’t know how you judge people in just form few msgs. I appreciate that at least you said to me that you feel.
I suggest please understand the sentence what I want to tell you, I just post my fundamental analysis, fundamental analysis is very wide and don’t want to write whole thing because I have no time yet. So I just post little summary about my analysis and you judge me and my whole story.
Well I like your way honestly but you need to share knowledge with other rather than just asking and seeking for knowledge at least I am trying at this thing.

And you need to see USDCAD and see what I tell.
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  • #28
  • May 20, 2016 7:20am May 20, 2016 7:20am
Quoting alphaomega
{quote} This is not entirely true! First of all, trading is risky for all market participants, so no matter now big your capital, you can lose it all in one position. (when using high leverage, or during market crash like CHF crash for example). Now, from all market paritcipants, the market maker is in the best position 99,9% of the time. For the market maker there's almost no risk because of the positive expectany per trade on EVERY deal, because the MM is liquidity provider, and he is quoting the Bid/Ask and collecting the spread on every trade....
This post has great insight on how the entire money market works. The rich will always get richer.
Mecrandie
  • #29
  • May 20, 2016 3:12pm May 20, 2016 3:12pm
Quoting johnvr
Hi Jay-Bakgat. From one Protea to another, the martingale as you described that you use is an absolute killer, be carefull.
Huzzit Johnny,

Martingale sure is danger, ive come a long way, im up 80% in 3 months more on some other accounts.. im just lurking around, always learning and enquiring on forums such as this. Key to use martingale is your strategy should not swap within a day on low time frames, if you make a loss, it should take a while for the setup to reoccur. Short gold next week, and long cable in june
  • #30
  • May 20, 2016 3:17pm May 20, 2016 3:17pm
Quoting genierex
{quote} And you need to see USDCAD and see what I tell.
Yeah let that guy off, he's got a short leash.

One thing i didnt understand from your post was 'bullish .. until :29'
Is that the 29th of May?

I hope this thread can pick up some pace. There is little to no time left to trade, come on guys we know the usd is gonna crash and so are all the freakin fiat currencies. Thats why all my fx accounts are in chf. So instead of tutoring us, how about you try something else... no offense i would love to sit around week in week out and learn how you combine fundy with techy. Perhaps like the thread 'high probability live trades' you could offer similar trades.. but... better okay Gen, keep well my friend
  • #31
  • May 21, 2016 5:54am May 21, 2016 5:54am
Quoting Jay-bakgat
{quote} Yeah let that guy off, he's got a short leash. One thing i didnt understand from your post was 'bullish .. until :29' Is that the 29th of May? I hope this thread can pick up some pace. There is little to no time left to trade, come on guys we know the usd is gonna crash and so are all the freakin fiat currencies. Thats why all my fx accounts are in chf. So instead of tutoring us, how about you try something else... no offense i would love to sit around week in week out and learn how you combine fundy with techy. Perhaps like the thread 'high...

Until :29 in this I am mentioning time, not important time spend.

USD is gonna crash this is not entirely true USD always fundamentally stable you can see the graph like warren buffett say anyone who bets against USD he failed this country works. Sometime USD hurts but short time I am not saying that USD is stable all time, but in short time it recovers you need to see the history even economics books are full of United States Policies.
USD is always fundamentally strong due to many things,
And I am not tutoring you, you are more intelligent than me I am dam sure you just need to analyze yourself.
Everyone asking me even my friend how you are doing trading, I have same answer and also same answer I post two time in this thread but they didn’t understand
I suggest you invest on your knowledge rather than sitting in front of screen and looking for trade setup, you need to first read about it their is huge amount of information available and good thing is that all are for free you need read read read learn learn learn.
Soon I post setup which I do before take position. May I post video. But I have difficulty to manage time I have enough work to like you.
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  • #32
  • May 21, 2016 6:38am May 21, 2016 6:38am
Quoting Robert52
They do not manipulate the markets but with there bankroll they can encourage the retail trader to buy or sell at the most improper time by affecting the supply and demand of the currency pair. Robert
Wrong! They do not take retailer money. They don't have a need for it, because retailers constitute only small % of the global market place, and don't have enough liquidity to offer. Banks, funds and other institutions don't have a need for your 5000 $ or 10000 $. They are competing mostly among themselves. This is a myth busted a long time ago, and yet every now and then someone pops in with these old stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retail...change_trading

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In 2013 it had been speculated that volume from retail foreign exchange trading represents 5 percent of the whole foreign exchange market which amounts to $250 billion in daily trading turnover.

They do not care for your 5% stake in the market.

http://www.bis.org/publ/rpfx13fx.pdf
  • #33
  • May 21, 2016 10:51am May 21, 2016 10:51am
Quoting genierex
{quote} I dont know how you judge people in just form few msgs. I appreciate that at least you said to me that you feel. I suggest please understand the sentence what I want to tell you, I just post my fundamental analysis, fundamental analysis is very wide and dont want to write whole thing because I have no time yet. So I just post little summary about my analysis and you judge me and my whole story. Well I like your way honestly but you need to share knowledge with other rather than just asking and seeking for knowledge at least I am trying at...

I judge you based on the fact that you haven't gone into any detail about anything. Everything you say is vague at best.
  • #34
  • May 21, 2016 11:23am May 21, 2016 11:23am
Quoting allisonmagic
{quote} I judge you based on the fact that you haven't gone into any detail about anything. Everything you say is vague at best.

I do this For two reason i have not enough time to write whole thing i hate writing, and you are not child to describe like a for apple b for balloon, i want to you ask about thing which you not understand instead of judge, decide you are here to learn or judge. i give analysis which i done, and i want you understand on what basis i do this, i also tell you how i do fundamental analysis i am not a person who always describe same thing in every post.

When we are student teacher give us topic and little intro about it than tell us go and research yourself from this process we learn more, this is practical technique, i am not here to spoon feeding or i am not your primary school teacher i am here to give you my analysis if you not understand ask please don't judge. and i know you know very well about Fundamental Analysis.

This thread for those who want to learn not for those who are here judge and thinking they know each and everything, even i don't know each and everything. In trading you learn daily. this is the simple process of trading learning learning learning, not judging, judge yourself not others, and you will make consistent profit.
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  • #35
  • May 21, 2016 11:51am May 21, 2016 11:51am
I think it's better to start sharing those successful tips on how to "Trade Like Institutions and Banks Do" shall we?

Every trader have their own way to trade, there's no right or wrong in trading, let's share 'em .



Cheers!
  • #36
  • May 23, 2016 6:16am May 23, 2016 6:16am
Quoting liquidice
I think it's better to start sharing those successful tips on how to "Trade Like Institutions and Banks Do" shall we? Every trader have their own way to trade, there's no right or wrong in trading, let's share 'em . Cheers!

i like you post most in this thread, straight forward thing to the point.
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  • #37
  • May 23, 2016 9:27am May 23, 2016 9:27am
Quoting genierex
In this thread you will learn how to trade like professionals and institution are does, I will mention mistakes that every new trader does that prevent them make consistent profit and I will tell you how to avoid those mistakes. This thread provides information that every new trader need before start trading in forex market, and prevent mistake like lose hard earn money in few days after start trading. In this thread I will discuss each and everything which make you Successful trader, and you are free to ask every question which make you crazy and...
I think you are trying to be noble but in truth there are no bank traders making all this money as you say.... There is no special way to trade beyond the obvious look at the chart, look at the economics and trade an idea. There is of course arbitrage but no one here has the resources to do this, otherwise they won't be here. We are all losers, some of us are slightly richer losers that could not cut the big time or we were never part of that club for various socio or economic reasons.

The banks are primarily in the dealer or market making businesses (incorrectly called traders), to a large degree they do buy and sell so consequently trade. This use to be quite profitable but then IT geeks figured out how to eliminate people, spreads got cheaper, traders deliberately lose money on a trade to get the order flow information, then take a position in that direction for the bank and make up the difference that way. If you can call that trading. If they do this well, they get a nice bonus based on how many of these bad trades they make to get good ones.

The hedgefunds on the other hand these days are very clique, it is who you know and where you lunch and what school you went to or what country you are from, etc. They do a lot more in the debt acquisition space and in brownfield mining than they do in the speculative space. A few still hold equities and bonds but these days these guys are selling even ETF's and in some cases they are buying commercial real estate. So this vehicle is so diverse that again I can't see how you can emulate them. I know all this because I spent a good number of years in funds, so it is just part of the business.

I like this forum but I see a lot of candy is being sold. Try not to sell it to hard because then it looks unrealistic Nice idea though!
  • #38
  • May 29, 2016 6:28am May 29, 2016 6:28am
Thread For Professional
90% trader are frustrated from trading, all blaming to market, why? Your biggest mistake is this that you blame the market that’s why you always see your position in red. Didn’t you read forex market is very risky, cruel, didn’t you read it will flash your account in just few seconds. Then why you are blaming, is there any reason? You didn’t know about forex before you enter in this market. In this thread everybody believing that nobody is winner in the forex see your comments everybody said nobody is winner in forex. You are loser it’s not mean that everybody is loser in this market.
This thread is not for those who believe everybody is loser in forex, this thread is for those who want to learn and want to make it profession.
Did you follow the steps that successful traders follow; you skip all the important steps and now you are blaming and suffering. You start education from high school or preschool? Then why you skip preschool in forex?
Technical Analysis, Fundamental Analysis these topics are high school topic, how you will understand them correctly If you skip the preschool.
Trade like bank and institute do:
I didn’t understand why you are in forex market, if you feel everybody is loser in forex, no one takes profit from.
Note this, this thread is useless for 97% People. It is beneficial for just 3% people.
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  • #39
  • May 1, 2017 8:36am May 1, 2017 8:36am
Who lost more than 3000$ or more after that he didn't even learn how to trade and manage risk just contact with me and follow this thread who is serious about trading, i am very busy with my daily routine but i want to help people, may be i not respond you at a moment but i will fully help you to make you Professional Trader.


Just ignore bad thing people say about trading, people doing trading but talking bad stuff, it is as bad than why not you leave trading and start any other thing which is good for you.

If Anyone want to be Professional Profitable Trader just ignore Bad Stuff. Don't Listen.

Trading is Full of Uncertainties Full of Risk, But Remember there is a tool which manage the risk called Risk Management!

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  • #40
  • May 1, 2017 8:38am May 1, 2017 8:38am

Successful Trader have quality called Passion, i will test your PASSION than i will help you completely.

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