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  • #141
  • May 14, 2016 2:53am May 14, 2016 2:53am
Hello everyone

Please allow me to share a trade I have been in for a few days now...in the S&P500.

Please understand, this is not intended as a brag. Just to show that this methodology does work and work well. It is possible for us retail traders to do this. We keep goinf, never throwing in the towel.

We don't seek perfection. It is a myth.
We seek growth and improvement in all things.

best wishes
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  • #142
  • May 14, 2016 3:35am May 14, 2016 3:35am
Hello everyone.

EURNZD view
best wishes
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  • #143
  • May 14, 2016 7:36am May 14, 2016 7:36am
Hello everyone.
Its a blitz weekend here

Thoughts on EURCAD

Best wishes

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  • #144
  • May 14, 2016 8:28am May 14, 2016 8:28am
thank you Akt very informative charts 😊
  • #145
  • May 14, 2016 8:57am May 14, 2016 8:57am
Fantastic charts Akt. Looking forward to chatting today.
  • #146
  • May 14, 2016 7:14pm May 14, 2016 7:14pm
Quoting Akt
{quote} It is just a question of how you put the information together when you do recognize those footprints best wishes
Indeed. We can learn the various components, and there's enough of them esp. understanding the nuances but speaking for myself, anyway, I find putting it all together the most challenging, even more so, when taking into account the Mind and Money aspects of the equation that you referred to already, as well. We may think we have an issue in one area and it's actually in another, for e.g.

Still I think Method matters - a lot and probably what we can share here most, in a tangible way. Of course, guess it all matters. Like a three-legged stool. That's what makes trading challenging to master.

I'm looking forward to your unfoldment of your method.
I enjoyed the discourse on Trends especially your portrayal of S&D from the perspective of Newton's law of motion dynamics.

It contained many of the 'Rules' for our decision matrix, putting the big "rocks" first, in order of priority.

The market being alive and dynamic putting all the rules together means adapting and knowing the nuances so, that we remain attuned to the whole picture. Context is everything and that once rules are internalised is the art of trading I suppose.

Anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself; back to basics.
  • #147
  • May 14, 2016 7:22pm May 14, 2016 7:22pm
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240 - I wasn't sure whether I'd short ozzy if it came bounced right back to the D sz. but anyway, it has continued on it's way down. On the LTF it was interesting to see how that transpired, even if it was in hindsight.
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  • #148
  • May 14, 2016 8:32pm May 14, 2016 8:32pm
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240 Update:
Price did turn back down at that Dz, with help of the H4 just above (level upon level) but although P turned and that looked like a FO I'm wondering whether that wasn't a signal or indeed confirmation that P is going higher and P is coming down to re-load.
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  • #149
  • May 15, 2016 12:17am May 15, 2016 12:17am
Quoting livindaylite
CADJPY M {image} W {image} D {image} 240 Update: Price did turn back down at that Dz, with help of the H4 just above (level upon level) but although P turned and that looked like a FO I'm wondering whether that wasn't a signal or indeed confirmation that P is going higher and P is coming down to re-load. {image}
Hello Livingdaylite,

Great work on those charts. thank you for sharing them

On the CADJPY, Here is how I see the weekly.

best wishes
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  • #150
  • May 15, 2016 12:24am May 15, 2016 12:24am
Quoting livindaylite
{quote} Indeed. We can learn the various components, and there's enough of them esp. understanding the nuances but speaking for myself, anyway, I find putting it all together the most challenging, even more so, when taking into account the Mind and Money aspects of the equation that you referred to already, as well. We may think we have an issue in one area and it's actually in another, for e.g. Still I think Method matters - a lot and probably what we can share here most, in a tangible way. Of course, guess it all matters. Like a three-legged stool....
Hello Livingdaylight.

Yes method does matter. However, relative to the first 2 parts of the TRI.POD., it is put in the shade.

There are so many methods out there, not just supply and demand as you know; and traders are making a living using those methods, a nice living.
People use moving av. crossovers, conventional chart patterns, candlesticks, donchian channels, RSI, MACD, the lot.

The Method is not as important as the trader using the method.
I think of the method as encompassed by the other two arms, the MIND and the Money. We lose money when we get these two wrong, regardless of what method we use.

It is indeed fascinating.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #151
  • May 15, 2016 12:38am May 15, 2016 12:38am
Quoting livindaylite
CADJPY M {image} W {image} D {image} 240 Update: Price did turn back down at that Dz, with help of the H4 just above (level upon level) but although P turned and that looked like a FO I'm wondering whether that wasn't a signal or indeed confirmation that P is going higher and P is coming down to re-load. {image}
An aggressive trade could be taking the daily or 4hr zones for longs seeing that the daily DZ newly formed has taken out daily DBD supply.
It is aggressive because as I said in the picture, the weekly DZ that contains the daily was not trade-able since there was no price acceptance after price rallied out of demand. Price came straight back after the rally.

Sometimes these work but are aggressive and should not be taken as S&Fs.

best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #152
  • May 15, 2016 1:32am May 15, 2016 1:32am
Hello everyone.

A comment on this chart of NZDCAD.
It typifies the need to be clear in our minds what exactly we are trading, supply and demand.

best wishes

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  • #153
  • May 15, 2016 1:59am May 15, 2016 1:59am
Hi Akt and SD traders. Thank you for your charts, they are all very interesting!
Am I allowed to post a "top-down" analysis I'm doing (DAX index), just to control if I'm doing well about SD method?
  • #154
  • May 15, 2016 2:06am May 15, 2016 2:06am
Quoting autaret
Hi Akt and SD traders. Thank you for your charts, they are all very interesting! Am I allowed to post a "top-down" analysis I'm doing (DAX index), just to control if I'm doing well about SD method?
Hello autaret

Of course you are. You don't need any permission to do that.

Please have fun. It is for analysis of markets that the thread was opened after all. We are all here to learn and improve.

Thank you for sharing autaret.


best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #155
  • May 15, 2016 3:08am May 15, 2016 3:08am
Quoting autaret
Hi Akt and SD traders. Thank you for your charts, they are all very interesting! Am I allowed to post a "top-down" analysis I'm doing (DAX index), just to control if I'm doing well about SD method?
Hi autaret, please share your insight with us.

Hi Akt, you are having a great charting weekend.
  • #156
  • Edited 8:16am May 15, 2016 3:17am | Edited 8:16am
Quoting autaret
Hi Akt and SD traders. Thank you for your charts, they are all very interesting! Am I allowed to post a "top-down" analysis I'm doing (DAX index), just to control if I'm doing well about SD method?

Hello Akt,

Thank you for your interesting charts, yes support and resistance areas are important.
If I can make a comment on your charts, there is something missing and you are trading blind.
On the Forex charts you cannot see how strong the 2 currency are against each other.
The market maker sets the direction of the currency 2 hrs after the daily open and I would
rather be trading with the trend than standing in front a freight train. Knowing how strong
the currency's your trading will improve your winning trades.
  • #157
  • May 15, 2016 4:39am May 15, 2016 4:39am
HI Akt, glad to read your post. Do you have a point of view about USD.CHF. The sentiment is still lower but the news or rumor is still bullish about it especially about the brexit and some us consumer data yesterday. do you have any idea about this pair. will it go to its lowest level in 2016? or it could be the hottest rally in this year.. hahaha... i read your first post about this pair and you still wait the moment to sell, how do you react with yesterday data? thanks
  • #158
  • May 15, 2016 6:44am May 15, 2016 6:44am
@smokey22

I am afraid this thread is for supply and demand trading specifically, following that methodolgy.
You do not seem to trade the same methodology as the traders in here, going by your post
As i stated in the first post detailing the rules, this thread is solely for the supply-demand methodology.
Therefore I would like to kindly ask that you remove your post.
I hope you understand our position on this.

As per your comments about the charts posted, I don't have any support or resistance areas marked on my chart.
Secondly, Supply and demand traders do trade with the trend. You did not mention the time frame of the trend you refer to in your post.
Thirdly, I am a simple person, i don't include any fundamental data in my analysis, way above my pay grade personally. I keep my analysis to the map i have in front of me. No opinions, just the facts of the charts.
Finally in terms of my winning trades, I think I'll be just fine.

Again, thank you for removing your chart.

Best wishes
Be careful what you think because your thoughts run your life..Solomon
  • #159
  • May 15, 2016 7:58am May 15, 2016 7:58am
Quoting woodycapital
HI Akt, glad to read your post. Do you have a point of view about USD.CHF. The sentiment is still lower but the news or rumor is still bullish about it especially about the brexit and some us consumer data yesterday. do you have any idea about this pair. will it go to its lowest level in 2016? or it could be the hottest rally in this year.. hahaha... i read your first post about this pair and you still wait the moment to sell, how do you react with yesterday data? thanks
Hello Woodycapital
Good to meet you.
Please see my thoughts below. I am still sitting and watching this pair. There are better set-ups out there.

best wishes
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  • #160
  • May 15, 2016 11:37am May 15, 2016 11:37am
In the spirit of out last lesson on drawing momentum trendlines, here is my attempt for the major pairs. My trend TF is daily. All pairs are in some kind of a trend with the exception of USDCHF which is consolidating at the moment. Any comments/corrections are welcomed.
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