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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Mar 17, 2025 9:02am May 12, 2016 2:17am | Edited Mar 17, 2025 9:02am
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Never Ever Give Up!
  • #2
  • May 12, 2016 3:04am May 12, 2016 3:04am
Im a big fan of grids so I have some interest in this. I can backtest on 99% data and let you know where this systems weaknesses are. I can also code in any new features you may want.
  • #3
  • May 12, 2016 3:28am May 12, 2016 3:28am
I'm very interested in Grid-Trading! Subscribed!
  • #4
  • Edited 4:12am May 12, 2016 3:32am | Edited 4:12am
Thank you @Cobra!

In the "Piggy" thread
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...05#post8921805
wrote @yonnie rightly: "...your grid system is clearly profitable only in trending conditons."

In a trend system I use a template like this:
- two Hull moving averages
- an indicator with RSI and Stochastic
- ADX indicator

To start a "trending" grid system I believe that to minimize the ranging risc we can
#start - if the moving average colors are identical and ADX > 20
#stop - if the moving average colors are different or ADX<20

As grid step we can take a quarter of ATR in the H4 timeframe
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  • #5
  • May 12, 2016 4:09am May 12, 2016 4:09am
Very interested in this EA concept Cobra - subbed!
  • #6
  • May 12, 2016 7:08am May 12, 2016 7:08am
I am working on something very similar. Conveniant for me
  • #7
  • May 12, 2016 7:10am May 12, 2016 7:10am
I have added the EA to post one.​
All the contents must go to Expert folder.
Let me know if it works pls.
Never Ever Give Up!
  • #8
  • May 12, 2016 7:18am May 12, 2016 7:18am
Quoting SwingMan
Thank you @Cobra! In the "Piggy" thread http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...05#post8921805 wrote @yonnie rightly: "...your grid system is clearly profitable only in trending conditons." In a trend system I use a template like this: - two Hull moving averages - an indicator with RSI and Stochastic - ADX indicator To start a "trending" grid system I believe that to minimize the ranging risc we can #start - if the moving average colors are identical and ADX > 20 #stop - if the moving average colors are different or ADX<20 As...
Yes the trick lies in where to start the Grid to prevent big drawdown.
However the drawdown will always be overcome does not matter how long the market stays sideways.
I guess one would have to time entries well or perhaps trade multiple pairs with very low volumes to spread the risk.
Never Ever Give Up!
  • #9
  • May 12, 2016 7:28am May 12, 2016 7:28am
Quoting Cobra
I have added the EA to post one.​ All the contents must go to Expert folder. Let me know if it works pls.
In backtester, it only opened positions until one bucket of trades closed. After that, no trades for over 16 years of backtest.
  • #10
  • May 12, 2016 7:34am May 12, 2016 7:34am
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} In backtester, it only opened positions until one bucket of trades closed. After that, no trades for over 16 years of backtest.
Buddy i am not a coder and to be honest with you i have no interest in backtesting results.
Put it on a demo and forward test it.
Drawdown is part of any bisiness.
Just demo it and if you like it lets see where we can improve it.
The EA is also not meant to be in the markets 24 hours so backtesting it is useless.
Never Ever Give Up!
  • #11
  • May 12, 2016 9:11am May 12, 2016 9:11am
Hello All.
if we start from 2016.02.09 10:30 GMT price 1.4470 GBP/USD BUY with 0.1 lot and continue till now with grid size 20 pip (SELL 1.4450) .we have following trade:
2016.02.09 15:45 GMT 0.2 lot
21:15 0.3 lot
2016.02.10 09:30 0.4 lot
15:30 0.5 lot
16:00 0.6 lot
...................................................
.....................................................
....................................................
2016.05.06 13:00 2.0 lot
....................................................
2016.05.09 09:45 2.2 lot with -4400 dollars hit stop
2016.05.10 14.45 2.3 lot with -4600
2016.05.11 15:15 2.4 lot -4800
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2016.05.12 11:35 2.6 lot -5200
2016.05.12 12.45 2.7 lot

this strategy come to large lot size and drawdown and loss .
  • #12
  • May 12, 2016 9:29am May 12, 2016 9:29am
Quoting Samand
Hello All. if we start from 2016.02.09 10:30 GMT price 1.4470 GBP/USD BUY with 0.1 lot and continue till now with grid size 20 pip (SELL 1.4450) .we have following trade: 2016.02.09 15:45 GMT 0.2 lot 21:15 0.3 lot 2016.02.10 09:30 0.4 lot 15:30 0.5 lot 16:00 0.6 lot ................................................... ..................................................... .................................................... 2016.05.06 13:00 2.0 lot .................................................... 2016.05.09 09:45 2.2 lot with -4400 dollars hit...
This same move coud also have given you profit if you took the profit when it presented it.
You have to experiment with lot and grid size.
Drawdown is part of any business. I honestly believe that once tolerance for drawdown will measure your success.
Even the big hedge funds have very large drawdowns some times.
Traders definition of drawdown will also differ from eavh other . Some can live with it much easier and some not. Trading these markets are not for everybody.
Never Ever Give Up!
  • #13
  • May 12, 2016 10:16am May 12, 2016 10:16am
To avoid large draw down or loss we can after being profitable reset lot size at that level to 0.1
  • #14
  • Edited 4:37pm May 12, 2016 2:32pm | Edited 4:37pm
Quoting Samand
Hello All. if we start from 2016.02.09
2016.05.12 11:35 2.6 lot -5200
...this strategy come to large lot size and drawdown and loss .
OK, for the original version you're right ...
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I have changed a bit the EA, and who wants to test the EA may also take account of the trend.
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  • #15
  • May 12, 2016 2:45pm May 12, 2016 2:45pm
Only makes 2 trades anyone knows why?
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  • #16
  • May 12, 2016 3:55pm May 12, 2016 3:55pm
New version: smTrend following EA 2.1


The original version had a superfluous error message because:
when an order is stopped at s/l, it must not be close even per program.
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  • #17
  • May 13, 2016 2:31am May 13, 2016 2:31am
Quoting SwingMan
New version: smTrend following EA 2.1 The original version had a superfluous error message because: when an order is stopped at s/l, it must not be close even per program. {file}
Not sure what you mean SwingMan....
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  • #18
  • May 13, 2016 2:46am May 13, 2016 2:46am
Hi cobra,

The only way to prevent slippage, is to filter news.
Before entering the news the expert must have closed orders.
  • #19
  • May 13, 2016 6:15am May 13, 2016 6:15am
Quoting SwingMan
Thank you @Cobra! In the "Piggy" thread http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...05#post8921805 wrote @yonnie rightly: "...your grid system is clearly profitable only in trending conditons." In a trend system I use a template like this: - two Hull moving averages - an indicator with RSI and Stochastic - ADX indicator To start a "trending" grid system I believe that to minimize the ranging risc we can #start - if the moving average colors are identical and ADX > 20 #stop - if the moving average colors are different or ADX<20 As...
What combination of HMAs (Hull Moving Averages) are you using? It looks interesting and promising...
  • #20
  • May 13, 2016 6:51am May 13, 2016 6:51am
check for news when an ea blows up during backtest.. don't do it blindly..
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