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  • #561
  • Edited 3:43pm May 8, 2016 3:30pm | Edited 3:43pm
Quoting keydcuk
Here is something slightly off the topic that I think a lot of you will find useful. "You can save your MT4 reports as excel spreadsheets!!!!!!" Simply change the extension of the file name to .xls when you are saving the file. Use the dropdown menu to "All Files (*.*)" THAT'S IT!! I am so excited about this... {image}
Hey Keydcuk I find something cool to your piggy EA and looks amazing, can I send you a PM?
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  • #562
  • May 8, 2016 3:57pm May 8, 2016 3:57pm
Quoting Invermac
{quote} Hey Keydcuk I find something cool to your piggy EA and looks amazing, can I send you a PM? {image}
Why don't you just share your discovery here.. ? 20 brains and a bunch of coders might help. Sharing is the very essence of this forum.
You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
  • #563
  • May 8, 2016 4:19pm May 8, 2016 4:19pm
Quoting Edorenta
{quote} Why don't you just share your discovery here.. ? 20 brains and a bunch of coders might help. Sharing is the very essence of this forum.
You are right, in this case is another grid EA with a diferent concept and I think the programmers can convine this to reduce the DD or avoid bad signal. Here the EA
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  • #564
  • May 8, 2016 4:30pm May 8, 2016 4:30pm
Quoting Edorenta
{quote} Why don't you just share your discovery here.. ? 20 brains and a bunch of coders might help. Sharing is the very essence of this forum.
Do not worry E, they have not find anything special anyway.

Do not want to spoil the loving party here, but my experience tells me it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a grid based winning strategy. Just look all around you. Where are these magical grid winners? Surely for 10+ yrs of grid trading already, there should be some, at least...

The grid conception is absolutely stupid, cause the rate does not move ONLY based on a grid, but TIMING also plays very important role here. And it does create a grid over grid over grid over grid, ext. Multiple grids with other words. So, which grid are you going to trade?!?

Have a good luck with trading JUST one grid, without including THE TIME FACTOR and the multiple grids it does create...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #565
  • May 8, 2016 4:33pm May 8, 2016 4:33pm
Quoting Invermac
{quote} You are right, in this case is another grid EA with a diferent concept and I think the programmers can convine this to reduce the DD or avoid bad signal. Here the EA {file}
Hi, do you know the logic of this EA?
  • #566
  • May 8, 2016 5:10pm May 8, 2016 5:10pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} without including THE TIME FACTOR and the multiple grids it does create...
Hi mate, good to read you.
I agree with most of what you say. However I've crossed path with people trading for years systems that include grid derivatives successfully. Not this way of course, trust me I've been backtesting this ea in any possible way on any possible pair / metal / index, it just doesn't work as the increment is static and the wins can't cover the loss in-trend. The reason I'm coding this is to improve my coding, but not just this. I believe there is a way to identify ranging markets through momentum/main ADX/htf ma slope angle/channels. It's been a while I'm working on that direction. Avoiding news, avoiding trends, scanning the market for mean reversions, swings, and heavy range. Using in such a market a grid that is used dynamically (i.e. Bauta's adaptive grid) untill breakout or untill a trend initiates would be relevant and potentially work. That is where I'm heading and I'll be happy to keep you updated on my researchs
You'll always miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
  • #567
  • May 8, 2016 5:13pm May 8, 2016 5:13pm
Quoting bergax
{quote} Hi, do you know the logic of this EA?

I think the EA open trades only in one side, if trend up open only buy and when trend is going down the EA open sell. In the trend change the EA leaves one trade open to compense the floating loss. Try JAN 2016 to today in EURUSD settings default
  • #568
  • May 8, 2016 5:37pm May 8, 2016 5:37pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote}my experience tells me it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a grid based winning strategy.
its not to disappoint you but this grid its working good for more than a few guys and the margin of improvement its huge since there are holes in the core logic

but in order to achieve success you first gotta believe in it and evaluate what is working good and what need to be fixed then find your way to fix it...

usually guys like you are too lazy for the mind process and this is why you wanna discourage everyone else to THINK about turning the IMPOSSIBLE into DONE..

kinda sad and funny at the same time ahahah you should not waste your time in forex and find another hobby..

this is not a funny one if you don't believe its profitable...

anyway only 1 mt4 of 3 its running properly.. somehow the ea don't wanna trade on the other 2 and settings are correct...
  • #569
  • May 8, 2016 5:39pm May 8, 2016 5:39pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} Do not worry E, they have not find anything special anyway. Do not want to spoil the loving party here, but my experience tells me it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a grid based winning strategy. Just look all around you. Where are these magical grid winners? Surely for 10+ yrs of grid trading already, there should be some, at least... The grid conception is absolutely stupid, cause the rate does not move ONLY based on a grid, but TIMING also plays very important role here. And it does create a grid over grid over grid over grid, ext. Multiple grids...
I tend to disagree with your comment. If you are going to say this, you may as well say it about all EAs out there. With this particular EA it hedge grids. A lot of money can be made with hedging. However, I am not saying my EA is amazing, I just say that it works under normal market conditions. The only real market condition it could not survive in backtesting is the global recession period.

Having said this, I think there is more money to be made in non-grid EAs if you can get it right. I am currently working on one at the moment. But as far as grid EAs, it is not to boast my own, but I simply just feel that it is among the safest grid EAs I have seen with the proper settings.

Welcome!

Daniel
  • #570
  • May 8, 2016 6:30pm May 8, 2016 6:30pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} Having said this, I think there is more money to be made in non-grid EAs if you can get it right.
i tend to disagree with this eheh there are a lot of non grid thread here but very few are live tracked over a decent period of time..

another proof of this is: give a look at mql5.com signal with more than 12month of history tracked.. there are very few of them there too.. hehehe

switched to piggy 4.2 and running smoothly again

thanks for your effort and support Daniel
  • #571
  • May 8, 2016 7:35pm May 8, 2016 7:35pm
Quoting Kunay9
{quote} i tend to disagree with this eheh there are a lot of non grid thread here but very few are live tracked over a decent period of time.. another proof of this is: give a look at mql5.com signal with more than 12month of history tracked.. there are very few of them there too.. hehehe switched to piggy 4.2 and running smoothly again thanks for your effort and support Daniel
No worries

Maybe I can surprise you when I'm done with my next EA. The DD is not brilliant but the profitability is stupendous!
  • #572
  • May 8, 2016 7:52pm May 8, 2016 7:52pm
I put this ea on experts, scripts and indicators- nothing work. what is going wrong?
  • #573
  • May 8, 2016 10:10pm May 8, 2016 10:10pm
i am the fan of the grid EA trading too.
Have been reading the thread over the weekend, drop by to say well done!! going to try the v4.2 now.
  • #574
  • May 8, 2016 10:14pm May 8, 2016 10:14pm
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} No worries Maybe I can surprise you when I'm done with my next EA. The DD is not brilliant but the profitability is stupendous!
Great, can't wait to test your new EA. Is the EA that you make with semafor?
  • #575
  • Edited 11:54pm May 8, 2016 11:40pm | Edited 11:54pm
I am friendly, in case you did not catch that one. Here are my HELPFUL replies.

Quoting Kunay9
{quote} its not to disappoint you but this grid its working good for more than a few guys
Really? And where are those WORKING grids? Why don't we know about them? Maybe they are not public or maybe there are? Interesting. Show me some, please.

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the margin of improvement its huge since there are holes in the core logic
That is correct. Still, without the TIME FACTOR, it is a pure gamble to trade just one grid. It is not just using a grid, because there are multiple layers of grids. Let me help you. It is TIME and GRIDS.

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usually guys like you are too lazy for the mind process and this is why you wanna discourage everyone else
I was trying to be helpful. Just wanted to do it in such a way where you would remember and not miss my remarks. I did it right, but you are somehow avoiding the TIMING and the MULTIPLE grids correlation...

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anyway only 1 mt4 of 3 its running properly.. somehow the ea don't wanna trade on the other 2 and settings are correct...
I sincerely wish you good luck. I hope that you can make it. Here is a real friendly free advice. Use hedge. 99% with LIMIT orders. 1% with STOP orders. And you are there. Timing is the most important thing in forex. Adapt to it. Let the chart lead your way. Do not create frames, so the chart fits into the frames you created (one grid), because that is not gonna work one day (sooner rather than later). It is exactly THE OTHER WAY AROUND it. By now you should feel something from my words. I just do not want to type it directly in here...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #576
  • May 8, 2016 11:52pm May 8, 2016 11:52pm
Quoting Edorenta
{quote} Hi mate, good to read you. I agree with most of what you say. However I've crossed path with people trading for years systems that include grid derivatives successfully.
Of course there are successful grids. As there are profitable gamblers making fortune on gambling. How about the majority, the rest of us? It is exactly the same in forex... A single grid will really work only for the special people. And if you give it to all the rest, trust me, from 1 to just 20 out of 100 will use it successfully. This will make the winning grid based strategy... unpopular.

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..I believe there is a way to identify ranging markets...
This is very easy, actually. Just start counting the stop losses on your favorite grid and you will then know, quite early, when there is going to be a range. You will be surprised when you see how the numbers show what your eyes cannot detect and see, but it is there in their focus-bogus charts...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #577
  • Edited 3:24am May 9, 2016 12:41am | Edited 3:24am
Quoting keydcuk
{quote} No worries Maybe I can surprise you when I'm done with my next EA. The DD is not brilliant but the profitability is stupendous!
hi daniel,
if i am running in vps (which desktop time is different from broker server time), how do i select LocalTime or server time?

and what will happen if it pass the end time and there is still active trades? how's the EA react?
  • #578
  • May 9, 2016 12:54am May 9, 2016 12:54am
hi all, trying to understand how to properly use basket manager. can someone shed some light on the question below?
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  • #579
  • May 9, 2016 1:45am May 9, 2016 1:45am
Quoting MoneyZilla
Really? And where are those WORKING grids?
as i said before you just got one of them here! and don't be fooled by the ''oh just another grid'' cause those who manage long and short side of the grid as a single trade are few and this is the main ingredient of the success of the grid

also i guess that i found a way to dramatically improve profit and DD but it looks like i'm the only one who like the idea

read my post here: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...10#post8903810

Quoting MoneyZilla
I did it right, but you are somehow avoiding the TIMING and the MULTIPLE grids correlation...
could you please explain a little bit further what you mean when you talk about time? talking about strong trending market on some pairs, high spread or news trading with a grid?

i also missed the grid correlation.. as far as i can tell you can consider all the trades you got open as part of the core logic of the grid so for me there is only one grid and its own way to deal trades running

also don't forget that this grid don't leave behind open trades in a loss for hunderds and hundreds of pips like most of the others, and doing so long and short size are pretty much always in a tight range ( from first to last trade max range i saw in a week in 100pips on gbpjpy )

last but not least, i was friendly too ahaha just trying to make you notice that you must believe in forex, in yourself and that is possible to find the exit from this maze..

just need an outrageous amount of determination, willpower and patience eheh
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  • #580
  • May 9, 2016 4:00am May 9, 2016 4:00am
I've seen many EA's like this. The big question is: How does this EA handle the eventual (and inevitable) death trade?
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