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  • #461
  • May 6, 2016 10:42am May 6, 2016 10:42am
Quoting skyway
Net winners can take positions with or opposite the trend. Either one or the other or even both.
The ones I know of follow trends.
  • #462
  • May 6, 2016 10:49am May 6, 2016 10:49am
Quoting Atokys
{quote} The ones I know of follow trends.

Agree. All time frames have their own trend. That is key to understand as well.
  • #463
  • May 6, 2016 10:50am May 6, 2016 10:50am
[quote=Atokys;8913448]{quote} Very well. Logical inconsistency. The notion that things 'really work' in a particular way alludes to an objective reality. If you say that nothing is objective then it follows that neither is your statement.

It is not if you try to understand: how things really work does not allude to any objectivity but to the fact that there is no objectivity, there is not only one reality; there are many because your mind is the creator of your reality, and as each of us has a different mind and different thoughts, each of us creates his own reality.

However I'm aware that this is a very hard to comprehend concept, so never mind, accept it or not.
  • #464
  • May 6, 2016 10:52am May 6, 2016 10:52am
Quoting alexx90
I see that all the things about quantum physycs, multiverse, chaos etc have confused some people. You need an objective perspective to define something. We all perceive a different reality but all have access to same information. It is up to you being objective or subjective. Subjective = live in your world and don't care about what is outside of your mind Objective = find an objective reality outside of your mind Even infinity or chaos has an objective explanation but for lots of people they seem subjective. If you tackle anything with a subjective...
Maybe you are the most confused of all
  • #465
  • May 6, 2016 10:54am May 6, 2016 10:54am
Quoting Atokys
{quote} The ones I know of follow trends.
There are large net winners in contrarian speculation.
  • #466
  • May 6, 2016 11:04am May 6, 2016 11:04am
Quoting strongtrader
...
I comprehend the concept but I do not accept it.

I do accept that our reality is defined by our own subjective perception of it but there is an objective reality that is indifferent to humankind.

But I guess we should leave it at that and go back to discussing muh pips.
  • #467
  • May 6, 2016 11:28am May 6, 2016 11:28am
Quoting Atokys
{quote} I comprehend the concept but I do not accept it. I do accept that our reality is defined by our own subjective perception of it but there is an objective reality that is indifferent to humankind. But I guess we should leave it at that and go back to discussing muh pips.
well, it is one step forward; but the only objective reality I know that is indifferent to all of us is that we have to born and then die.
For the rest I agree with you; anyway it has been an interesting discussion, thks.
  • #468
  • May 6, 2016 11:43am May 6, 2016 11:43am
Quoting chartsndream
{quote} Agree. All time frames have their own trend. That is key to understand as well.
yes, this is an important piece of the puzzle
  • #469
  • May 6, 2016 11:46am May 6, 2016 11:46am
Quoting strongtrader
{quote} Maybe you are the most confused of all
Maybe someone who for the entire life has said that price is time dependent, then after seeing a friend making profits think "maybe he is right, price is not time dependent". This makes me laugh more than you.
All the best to you,

Regards,
Alex
  • #470
  • May 6, 2016 12:17pm May 6, 2016 12:17pm
Quoting alexx90
{quote} Maybe someone who for the entire life has said that price is time dependent, then after seeing a friend making profits think "maybe he is right, price is not time dependent". This makes me laugh more than you. All the best to you, Regards, Alex
  • #471
  • May 6, 2016 2:15pm May 6, 2016 2:15pm
guys

is anyone trading the USD/JPY? like right now
  • #472
  • May 6, 2016 2:33pm May 6, 2016 2:33pm
Quoting Scharlotte
guys is anyone trading the USD/JPY? like right now
Just took a look at M15, it looks like it might be a buy if prices bounces of 106.935 or so. Why do you ask?
  • #473
  • May 6, 2016 2:41pm May 6, 2016 2:41pm
Quoting ohyeah
{quote} Just took a look at M15, it looks like it might be a buy if prices bounces of 106.935 or so. Why do you ask?
was looking at the M5 its looking good
  • #474
  • May 6, 2016 2:48pm May 6, 2016 2:48pm
Did you go all in at the point where you knew this move was the result of manipulators? Sometimes I see markets moving in a direction on lower tick volume, I have never been able to pull the trigger on that. Did you do it?
  • #475
  • May 6, 2016 2:49pm May 6, 2016 2:49pm
Quoting Scharlotte
{quote} was looking at the M5 its looking good
Yeah I mean, you could do a buy on M5 if price were to bounce somewhere around 106.985. I think M15 is more trendy than M5 so I try to stick to M15.
  • #476
  • May 6, 2016 4:35pm May 6, 2016 4:35pm
As i said the word trend causes chaos, reaction,confliction ,herd mentality,to the slaughter.the compexity of trend distroys all .
  • #477
  • May 6, 2016 4:36pm May 6, 2016 4:36pm
Quoting strongtrader
{quote} yes, this is an important piece of the puzzle

yep
  • #478
  • May 6, 2016 4:38pm May 6, 2016 4:38pm
Quoting Atokys
{quote} I comprehend the concept but I do not accept it. I do accept that our reality is defined by our own subjective perception of it but there is an objective reality that is indifferent to humankind. But I guess we should leave it at that and go back to discussing muh pips.
i would love to sit and have a beer with you
  • #479
  • May 6, 2016 5:45pm May 6, 2016 5:45pm
Quoting Atokys
{quote} I do accept that our reality is defined by our own subjective perception of it but there is an objective reality that is indifferent to humankind. But I guess we should leave it at that and go back to discussing muh pips.
well said.
  • #480
  • May 6, 2016 7:34pm May 6, 2016 7:34pm
how did the uj trade go though
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