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  • #1
  • First Post: Apr 8, 2016 8:43am Apr 8, 2016 8:43am
Increase Your Financial IQ!

"People without financial knowledge, who take advice from financial experts are like lemmings simply following their leader. They race for the cliff and leap into the ocean of financial uncertainty, hoping to swim to the other side." Robert Kiyosaki

I want to teach you how to master the power of money. Do not be afraid of it. But at school they do not teach this. If you do not learn it, you will become a slave to money.
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I have been doing the market for a long time and about 3 years to make investments. With experience in this area, as a trader, I am able to understand the market. Having experience as an investor, I know how to make money. Every investor must know when to flower bloom and how long will bloom.

"The poor and middle class work for money."
"The rich make money work for them."
Robert Kiyosaki

Now I have found a niche as an investor and as a trader. The most important investment - it is to choose the right investment objective.
Do not be afraid. I will tell you a secret. If you are afraid to invest, then you are not afraid of risk, you are afraid of money.

Now I am working with a trader, who really makes money.
I know that now the money is working for me.
I want that you have achieve it too.

Why do I want you to be rich?
Because you are not taught in school how to make money. At school, a successful person is one who does not make mistakes. In life, successful person who makes mistakes and develops.
People need to wake up and realize that life doesn’t wait for you. If you want something, get up and go after it!

The account in which I invested has a constant income throughout the year.
At this point, I have successfully withdraw more than 50% of the initial deposit.

Here is a graph of profitability as a percentage over the last year.
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This is th statement for the whole period, including investments and withdrawals.
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  • #2
  • Apr 8, 2016 9:52am Apr 8, 2016 9:52am
This trader has very good results. I'll follow up this thread.
Have questions.
In accordance with what subjects you choose the trader for investments from numerous amounts traders? I wonder a lot. How much time is needed to collect all information about the trader. How to calculate it is profitable or not. How to make investments with less risk???
  • #3
  • Apr 9, 2016 6:12pm Apr 9, 2016 6:12pm
Hi, DonaldB
Important thing is that you have to be a millionaire in the head. The strength that makes a person rich coming from the heart and mind. Knowledge, experience, success will come in the future, at the beginning you need to choose the way of enrichment and go to it, without turning off the road.
Many among us are afraid of money, beware of or ashamed of them. worm of doubt is sitting in each, "Not bad if a lot of money? As others will think of us? They say it's not well, challenging."
Money - an important part of our lives and do not underestimate or neglect the opportunities that they provide. Money is able to generate new money, if you do not treat them as a means of waste, as a means of achieving the goal.

We need to work on themselves, not on the head, which always gets a lot of money, and workers are often underpaid. The presence of even a small own business - an important achievement on the path to success. This way - is trading. Here everyone works for himself.
  • #4
  • Apr 10, 2016 11:18am Apr 10, 2016 11:18am
Quoting Derekt
Hi, DonaldB Important thing is that you have to be a millionaire in the head. The strength that makes a person rich coming from the heart and mind. Knowledge, experience, success will come in the future, at the beginning you need to choose the way of enrichment and go to it, without turning off the road. Many among us are afraid of money, beware of or ashamed of them. worm of doubt is sitting in each, "Not bad if a lot of money? As others will think of us? They say it's not well, challenging." Money - an important part of our lives and do not underestimate...
There are several ways to make (or receive) wealth. From fraud to inheritance from the lottery to your own business. I tabled in just a few:
- Own business
- Investments
- Hard work
This is the most important and worthy way of development. Strive for it! And make, make, make ... do not have time to wait for a miracle.
You need:
- Less dream, postponing all plans for later and do more without having to wait for the right opportunity.
- Do not miss alternative ways of generating income, even if you already have a steady source of income. This will allow a person to move forward.
- It is necessary to clear that to get rich quick will not work. It should be a lot of effort and time. Business forms for many years.
- Never forget that the Time is money! Optimize your work as much as possible.
  • #5
  • Apr 10, 2016 12:04pm Apr 10, 2016 12:04pm
Quoting moneykiller
This trader has very good results. I'll follow up this thread. Have questions. In accordance with what subjects you choose the trader for investments from numerous amounts traders? I wonder a lot. How much time is needed to collect all information about the trader. How to calculate it is profitable or not. How to make investments with less risk???
In order to correctly choose the PAMM-account you need to consider:

- Number of drawdowns and their size. I do not risk to invest money where there is a large drawdown. The maximum drawdown must be no higher than 50%, a normal result - about 30%.
- The profitability of accounts - a very important factor. If it's high, then the manager is great risks. If too small, there is a risk that the trader will not develop. Good result - approximately 10 - 15% per month.
- The growth should be stable and uniform. Sudden changes - a sign of high risk.
- longevity of accounts. You should not invest in the account, which only a few months.
- Confidence of manager in his trade. The more often the account manager achieves the goals, so it is experienced and more reliable.
  • #6
  • Apr 10, 2016 12:14pm Apr 10, 2016 12:14pm
For example, an account in which I invested

Drawdown: no big drawdowns. Falls are rare.
The percentage drawdown is: 36.37%
Steady growth of the graph of profitability:
Profitability accounts: approximately 14% per month
A large number of positive transactions compared with a loss
Account exists more than 1 year

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  • #7
  • Apr 11, 2016 2:26am Apr 11, 2016 2:26am
Quoting DonaldB
{quote} In order to correctly choose the PAMM-account you need to consider: - Number of drawdowns and their size. I do not risk to invest money where there is a large drawdown. The maximum drawdown must be no higher than 50%, a normal result - about 30%. - The profitability of accounts - a very important factor. If it's high, then the manager is great risks. If too small, there is a risk that the trader will not develop. Good result - approximately 10 - 15% per month. - The growth should be stable and uniform. Sudden changes - a sign of high risk....
Yes its true.
I also believe that the investment or your own business - it is a way to ensure that money to work for you, not vice versa.
All these rules are correct and a lot of them can be listed. The most important thing - it is to turn your thinking. To force yourself to think differently than we have been taught since childhood. I agree with you completely.
And optimize of working day - it's interesting. Because it often happens, all duties (home, family, work ...) it is very difficult to fit into one day. Especially if you are a trader and depends on the time parameters of the market.
  • #8
  • Apr 11, 2016 2:27am Apr 11, 2016 2:27am
Quoting DonaldB
For example, an account in which I invested Drawdown: no big drawdowns. Falls are rare. The percentage drawdown is: 36.37% Steady growth of the graph of profitability: Profitability accounts: approximately 14% per month A large number of positive transactions compared with a loss Account exists more than 1 year {image}
Good result. Can I contact these manager in person or through you?
  • #9
  • Apr 11, 2016 5:28am Apr 11, 2016 5:28am
Quoting DonaldB
{quote} In order to correctly choose the PAMM-account you need to consider: - Number of drawdowns and their size. I do not risk to invest money where there is a large drawdown. The maximum drawdown must be no higher than 50%, a normal result - about 30%. - The profitability of accounts - a very important factor. If it's high, then the manager is great risks. If too small, there is a risk that the trader will not develop. Good result - approximately 10 - 15% per month. - The growth should be stable and uniform. Sudden changes - a sign of high risk....
Ok. Good. I agree with it. Fair enough.
I have one more question. What about the popularity of the account.
If the account manager is popular among investors. Is it a sign that is worth to invest?
  • #10
  • Apr 12, 2016 4:41am Apr 12, 2016 4:41am
Quoting moneykiller
{quote} Ok. Good. I agree with it. Fair enough. I have one more question. What about the popularity of the account. If the account manager is popular among investors. Is it a sign that is worth to invest?
I think that the popularity of the account, for investors, more depends on the minimum deposit. Because there are a lot of those wishing to make big money, at the same investing little.
As you can see, again, the example of the account, its popularity is average, and a minimum deposit from $500
  • #11
  • Apr 12, 2016 4:43am Apr 12, 2016 4:43am
Quoting Derekt
{quote} Good result. Can I contact these manager in person or through you?
Yes, you can send me a private message. I'll give you his e-mail on which you can write.
  • #12
  • Apr 15, 2016 5:09am Apr 15, 2016 5:09am
I'll tell you about the simple but very important things.

Time is money

The rich man is able to save time and use it as efficiently as possible. To achieve this, there are different ways, and adopting the tips, you can achieve a lot.

1. To increase reading speed by 2-3 times. To master this skill is able to every person in about one week, that allows you to quickly find information.

2. To study the features commonly used computer programs. They have a lot of useful tools to simplify the work, but that many people do not even suspect.

3. Organize your workspace: put all things in their places, while significantly reduce the time to find all the necessary.

4. Optimize the work at the computer.
  • #13
  • Apr 15, 2016 5:16am Apr 15, 2016 5:16am
So I would like to show the last few trader's orders. I will share with you the joy. Earns trader - wealthy investor
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  • #14
  • Apr 15, 2016 5:26am Apr 15, 2016 5:26am
hI,

Why are you advertising this trader?

MT
  • #15
  • Apr 15, 2016 6:54am Apr 15, 2016 6:54am
I think that this guy is his partner or something similar. In any case, there are useful tips here.
  • #16
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:31pm Apr 17, 2016 5:31pm
Advice from a rich people:

- Ingvar Kamprad

Avoid unnecessary spending

Ingvar Kamprad, the founder of the IKEA, believes that many expenses are absolutely useless, even if the money is harness your pocket. Like many other super wealthy people, he chooses to fly economy class instead of a personal aircraft. In his memoirs, Kamprad wrote:
"We do not need flashy cars, inspiring titles, uniforms or other status symbols. In the present we are relying on their own strength and will. "
  • #17
  • Apr 17, 2016 5:33pm Apr 17, 2016 5:33pm
- Michael Bloomberg

Realize what is right and follow this for you

Michael Bloomberg is well known as one of the most controversial mayors of New York, and the owner of the main stake in Bloomberg LP, the global information company for the financial markets. One of the facts about which no one knows, is that over the past 10 years, Michael had bought just two pairs of shoes. These are two pairs of black Lofer, blends perfectly with all the costumes, in which billionaire feels most comfortable. He realized that the well invested and the state for him that could be spent on unnecessary pair of shoes in a really useful things.

For me, this conclusion began investing in forex. I realized that I would have a good understanding of traders and invest only where there is a lot of money. Because the money never expect
  • #18
  • Apr 18, 2016 12:41am Apr 18, 2016 12:41am
Moneykiller

My advice, be careful! Pamm accounts are now regulated in Europe. 99% of traders doing this are not regulated and 99% of people lose their money without any recourse.

There are people all other this forum and many others who have fallen for these tactics.

Ignore the getting rich stuff, it is a front for advertising.

MT
  • #19
  • Apr 18, 2016 5:05pm Apr 18, 2016 5:05pm
Quoting mytrader1961
Moneykiller My advice, be careful! Pamm accounts are now regulated in Europe. 99% of traders doing this are not regulated and 99% of people lose their money without any recourse. There are people all other this forum and many others who have fallen for these tactics. Ignore the getting rich stuff, it is a front for advertising. MT
I understand your concern. This is justified because the Forex - a risky business. That statistic, which you have shown fits into the forex statistics. Most of traders lose - that's a fact. But in order to avoid unsuccessful investments need to be able to choose the investment objective. I have long learned from my mistakes. But now I believe that I have enough knowledge to choose the right trader. The most important factor for an investor - the right to determine the amount, which you can take the risk. Investments - can not be the only source of income.
  • #20
  • Apr 19, 2016 8:53am Apr 19, 2016 8:53am
Quoting mytrader1961
Moneykiller My advice, be careful! Pamm accounts are now regulated in Europe. 99% of traders doing this are not regulated and 99% of people lose their money without any recourse. There are people all other this forum and many others who have fallen for these tactics. Ignore the getting rich stuff, it is a front for advertising. MT
I agree with you up to 80%. But from my position it looks a little bit different.
I always lose money on forex. I do not know what problem is. Maybe I'm too impulsive. Maybe I can't properly observe MM.
But one thing is for sure. I cannot give up this market. Maybe investing would be a good solution for me
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