Alien's Extraterrestrial Visual Systems

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audjpy h4: rsioma is below 20, 144 & 89 adx are up, its a downtrend

h1: rsioma is going below 20, 144 & 89 adx are up

m15: rsioma is below 20, 144 & 89 adx are up

m5: dds short entry, aligning with h4 dowtrend again

Hi Alien friend, there is another Alien's hook for short on EUR/USD H4.
On RSIOMA though there is a DS for long side.
So which will win? TWT as usual.

Hi Chnexp,
if you want to trade the Alien system successfully there are no shortcuts.
Read the thread from the beginning. There Alien master teach all things beginning from the RSIOMA trades. It worths reading.
Cheers

You're doing well Peetoox3.
The alignment and MTF analysis are basis for this system.

Thank you jpadvisor, there are still a lot i need to learn from your posts and alien masters. :nerd:

Hello everyone. I have been away for some time. (work+school etc) I see a number of new faces here and thought I would point out something I learned and stuck with whilst trading with Aliens Method. I am still learning and by no means an expert but I have made actual profit this way. which was something I had never done consistently before.

I am Going to be teaching and explaining a few things backwards. I became most effective at using this system when I turned what I had learned 'upside down.'

so we know there are multiple types of trades we can look for, DS, X Cross, etc.. each trader has their preference and some have a better understanding of one type of trade than another.
The trade that made the most sense to me were the DS trades. I could Identify all other types after they had happened, but trading them in real time was VERY difficult for me. the DS was much more simple and was easy to find.

this image is on the USDCAD weekly chart and it is a good example of the DS trade. good signals to go long. and as expected. price pushed long.

However. going up one time frame to the monthly chart.
here we see that the DS on the weekly was essentially an Xcross on the monthly. a trade I was generally bad at finding in real time.

looking at the monthly, in the beginning of my learning journey, I would be unsure if it had topped out or was going long with much strength.
I did not understand the stochastics very well but it was very easy to spot separation on the RSIOMA and Delayed Stochastic. thus, a potential DS setup.

so far none of what I have said is new to anyone who knows the system. it is a multi-time frame system.
what made the difference for me was learning that very often... a DS setup on a lower time frame, is an Xcross type trade on the next highest time frame.
So rather than doing Aliens 'Top Down' approach.. I would do a 'Bottom to top' approach followed by Aliens 'Top Down' approach.

the main thing was, it affected the way I was thinking.. rather than worrying about the stochastics and causing myself to get nervous about some entries. I would first recognise a trade I understood followed by the stochastics hinting to me that I could be right.

another example. this time on the AUDJPY

seeing the stochastics on the H4 start rising had me feeling uncomfortable and often I would enter very late after they had turned down.
seeing the DS first made me more confident.
You can see all you need doing the 'Top Down' approach.
The difference I experienced doing an 'up down up,' was the mindset I had.
I was intimidated by the stochastics and I allowed that to negatively affect my decision making.
Using what I did understand of this system, I learned to pair that with what I did not understand and became comfortable with not knowing what might happen next but being okay with the decision I made knowing that even if it were wrong. I would make that same decision again because it is often the right one.

once I became comfortable, It did not take long to Find a DS and Immediately look to the Higher TF to see if it was a potential setup of another sort. this helped me improve my win rate.

Note: I did not mention dropping down to a TF below the one you find a DS trade on. it is necessary for the optimal entry. but as I learned, the DS is often an entry itself to a higher TF entry. all in all... learn your MTF analysis.

Simple summary to an overly long explaination: A DS trade on one time frame helped me learn and understand other entries on higher timeframes.

One More Note: I do not look for DS trades on TFs lower than H1 (sometimes M30 if H1 and H4 line up well) this is because I am still not very good at reading all the information as well as I would like to. I Believe the H4 TF is a very strong TF and thus If the H4 agrees with the H1, I will trade.

Perhaps I will post more examples, If I need to explain further.
Find what you understand and stick with it. use your strengths.

master forexalien once talked about one of the good time to get out is when 144 & 89 adx go down.
so I decided to get out of my audjpy short trade (entry from m5) yesterday, when i saw that coming on m5 chart.
i don't know why, maybe it's his favorite time to get off his surfboard and enjoy the sunset before riding the next wave

Hi guys, I recently discovered that he met with the ff. I usually do not make friends with the trend system, and prefer the S / R trading for a long time. But I was interested in how can stochastics in different directions with rsioma, I tried it on a small live account the last three days. In fact, I did not keep the original rules for this type of transaction, I made some changes from his experience and got a good result. I tried it only on the 5m chart. Perhaps this is due to good movement in recent days, I'll try it on, it looks promising.
I want to try it is also 15M next week

Yes, see the clues on different time frames, how they interact. Out of interest Alien gave good example of looking down to lower timeframes when DS form, see post 3216.

Here find the weekly forecasts by V. Ribakov.

This is a reminder to how to pinpoint your entry on a DS trade.
Thanks Zimbinga.

Hi JPADVISOR,

Please inform the Alien post number so that we can see the chart that Alien usually placed with the explanation.

Tks!

If you click on the quoted post, you will be sent to the right post.

Tks for the tip FERRUFX!

this is about h1 ds on nzdjpy

w1: rsioma is below 20, 144 & 89 adx are down; d1: rsioma is below 50, adx are up; h4: rsioma is below 20, adx are up.
w1 adx are down, so the idea is to realign (short) lower tf at least with d1 or h4 (d1 & h4 rsioma are still down, d1 and h4 adx are still up).

h4: april 1, h4 dds crossed down (green vertical line)
april 5, 144 & 89 adx up (red vertical line) joining d1 again.
h1: april 6 around 18:00 GMT+3 h1 dds crossed down, rsioma below 20, adx are up (magenta vertical line), probability to align with h4 & d1.
that was the fisrt h1 dds crossed down since red vertical line. nice drop and previous low was broken.

h1: april 8, last friday another h1 dds crossed down (blue vertical line), h4 & d1 are still looking weak but this h1 ds short is taking the heat. what do you think?

h4 and h1 audcad are looking weak, m15 is rallying against them (m15 green stoch is up while h1 & h4 are down). there could be a realignment if adx, rsioma, and green stoch are in their proper place. twt.

Thank you for your teaching. I like the vertical lines you and peetooX3 added in your posts, which makes me understand more easily.

1) will you enter a trade in a weekly timeframe if there is a good DS signal confirmed by monthly timeframe? I mean weekly is too big.

2) what is the win rate for DS strategy? As we know, the DDS is a lagged indicator.
In previous messages, I saw a lot of trades taken prior to the DS crossing.

Which way is better for entering a trade, before DS crossing or after DS crossing?
thank you.

that's a very good point microsat. let's discuss this. in my case, i planned to short audcad m15 ds crossed early today, with the expectation to realign with h1 or h4 again. i wait for the ds crossed, but it has not happened. if we enter before m15 ds cross, we would've been to early. maybe it's just in this case, for some other cases it might work, but i can not tell that for sure, because so far i always wait for ds cross. maybe alien masters can give us some examples of such situation when we can enter before ds cross, there's still a lot i need to learn.

and so far, even if m15 ds cross finally comes up, i will not enter there, the h1 rsioma is lifted above 50, h4 144 adx is down. so maybe this m15 rally is too strong for a pullback. the bulls might be showing some strength down there. it's shaking h1 & h4 situation. so i cancel my plan to short that m15 ds cross. the conclusion, spesifically for this case: if we wait for ds cross, we will not enter too early and if we don't like the situation we can cancel our plan. but there might be some other situations in the future when i make late entries after ds cross, i'll post something if i get one for later discussion so we can fine tune our entries & exits.

Great！
This is probably first message clearly showing a failed DS trade.


DDS is a lagged indicator. If you enter after DS crossing, like the picture you show, and if the trend is not strong, the price action will turn against you.
But I don't know how frequently this failed trade would happen. (RSIOMA <20 in H4; DS crossing in H1)

On the contrary, if we enter prior to DS crossing, we can choose a best time to enter at M15 and the result could be BE if in worst situation.

Another thing I am worried about is the RSIOMA. Actually, it is a lagged indicator too. How reliable is it that RSIOMA< 20 means down trend and RSIOMA>80 means up trend?

For example, in the picture you uploaded, RSIOMA < 20 in H4, but the trend begins to go up.

As I mentioned before, if we cannot determine the trend in the higher time frame correctly with high confidence, we will lose eventually.