My Secret of Trading

Please ignore the title of this tread "my secret of trading" is what the moderates renamed it.. this thread is a response to people asking for my "secret" but really I don't consider it a "secret" and will share what I can... so lets begin

Everyone wants to profit when trading, I get that...
and I can try to save a few souls.. perhaps many..

Therefore, I would like to reveal what I believe YOU will find to be self evident proof of the holy grail of trading.

Recently I have been bombarded with questions, people asking for my "secret" of trading, as if I went off the deep end one day from FF knowing some mystical secret that led to my riches never to return.

In this upcoming thread I am going to explain the "Holy Grail of Trading", and Offer advice on how you can begin seeing consistent profits.

However, what I will not do is offer any sort of cookie cutter system so please beware...

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The holy grail system revealed: Post #5

Forex Factory administrators don't like the use of the term "Holy Grail", but aside from that your writings should be safe.

This sounds like fun....... but.......... just ban me now.

Can't wait for this "proof" of your "holy grail" system.

Hey was that sarcasm!?!


For the "holy grail system" I am proposing that the system would be one in which you could

1. perfectly time every trade at any moment.
2. So that price never moved against your position (other than perhaps the given spread).
3. Finally you would know exactly when to exit the position at the given moment priced stopped moving in your desired direction.

By this definition then the "holy grail system" is achievable by knowing and processing all information that exists the moment before trades are executed at any given moment, which requires knowing every single market participants EXACT thought and upcoming trade.

Your ability to know and process this information would allow you to know exactly how price will move within the next few moments.. always being one step ahead.

Surly you must agree that this is in fact the holy grail system (unless of course you disagree with my definition). For I have given you the exact answer to how you could know exactly every move of the market.. even if for only a few seconds.. but that is all you need because by then you know the next few seconds afterwards and so forth.

NOW the reason this is called the "holy grail system" is obvious.. its next to impossible to gather all of this information.. let alone process it all. It would require knowing every single market participants thought at a given moment.

My point is exactly such.. that achieving such an ability to trade like this simply will not happen.. BUT you CANlearn from this concept.

Information does exist that summarizes a large majority of traders next move. Its in the news/sentiment.. its in the volume.. its in the pending orders and stop losses of the active traders.. and in even more obvious and not so obvious places.

If you understand the concepts of how a holy grail system would work.. then you can see the information you need to trade successfully... while you will never achieve a zero loss system since the holy grail is not achievable.. you can become consistently profitable despite the cost of doing business along the way.

Learn? All you will ever learn is it's impossible to do. Why? Simply because the target of your actions is always moving by a will of it's own by seen and unseen forces so you will never be able to predict with great accuracy where the price will be at any given time.
Even if you had a super computer capable of processing tons of data in seconds there would still be something unknown that could throw off your prediction.

I understand the theory, but show us how! We're waiting. If you have the ability to know the mind of every market participant what are you doing on forums? Shouldn't you be a millionaire by now?

Thats a little rude of you..why not wait and see what he shares ... know many successful traders that are on forum..

Do they share their "holy grail" systems? Or just claim to have them but instead complain about FF rules?

Here we go again. A little fun perhaps?

I am always open to new ways of trading and learning so I am very interested in reading what he has to say...........

i am a holygrail hunter

You are...? I have never found one of them before....haha how many holygrail setups have you found hunter?

So am I, but OP is too busy complaining about forum rules to share it with us.

Problem with hunting the holy grail is that animal went extinct a long time ago..

I'm very interested in your learning concept and I'm patient enough to wait for your next posts..

Why asking? did You know all You need is 1.?

The secret is 21!

A secret is A secret. You're supposed to keep it for yourself if it's really a secret.

...........For the "holy grail system" I am proposing that the system would be one in which you could perfectly time every trade at any moment. So that price never moved against your position (other than perhaps the given spread). Finally you would know exactly when to exit the position at the given moment priced stopped moving in your desired direction. By this definition then the "holy grail system" is achievable by knowing and processing all information that exists the moment before trades are executed at any given moment, which requires knowing every single market participants EXACT thought and upcoming trade. Your ability to know and process this information would allow you to know exactly how price will move within the next few moments.. [/quote]

There is a very important message between the lines of ny's post; it requires a widely opened mind and a high degree of humbleness to even conceive that there is a lot to learn in it.
Everybody has the opportunity to learn and improve him/herself: someone will make it, all the others will not because of their egoes and cognitive biases: market is one of the most hardest and unforgiveness tool for natural selection.