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  • #54,281
  • Mar 31, 2016 12:24am Mar 31, 2016 12:24am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} Ok one last post - Not predicting anything - you/we don't know what will happen but what I am suggesting is that currencies have a tendency to range - sometimes those ranges are extreme but they tend to return to where they started. So if the EU breaks up yes the Euro will crash but I would posit that it won't disappear and anyway it is relative to the other half of the pair. Yes initially it will crash against the dollar - but the dollar is only the least ugly kid on the block atm - how do you know the dollar will always be the reserve...
Ur not getting the point, actually closing half the position and hedging half the position have no difference if u are using long EUR 1lot and u close 0.5.lot vs long EUR 1lot and short EUR 0.5 lot, what's yr p&l if EUR is up 100pips vs EUR down 100pips, there is no difference save cost of carrying. Also currencies tend to range till some fundamentals come to push it to a new level to range there, for it to come back u need fundamentals which push it back, which may or may not occur
  • #54,282
  • Mar 31, 2016 2:35am Mar 31, 2016 2:35am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Ur not getting the point, actually closing half the position and hedging half the position have no difference if u are using long EUR 1lot and u close 0.5.lot vs long EUR 1lot and short EUR 0.5 lot, what's yr p&l if EUR is up 100pips vs EUR down 100pips, there is no difference save cost of carrying. Also currencies tend to range till some fundamentals come to push it to a new level to range there, for it to come back u need fundamentals which push it back, which may or may not occur
No it is u that is missing the point....


Quoting Sa7an
{quote} Np he just needs to trim his hedge a bit to balance his portfolio until it blows back again on the next wave/dance.
Hedging is a tool not a strategy. I use hedges instead of stops - then depending on PA I'll trim the hedge or add to it or even close it completely or leave the hedge and close the other side.


You really need to take the blinders off - oh and read the millipede thread too, although they call it diversivication no hedging - its same thing
  • #54,283
  • Mar 31, 2016 3:36am Mar 31, 2016 3:36am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} No it is u that is missing the point.... {quote} Hedging is a tool not a strategy. I use hedges instead of stops - then depending on PA I'll trim the hedge or add to it or even close it completely or leave the hedge and close the other side. You really need to take the blinders off - oh and read the millipede thread too, although they call it diversivication no hedging - its same thing
Good luck, I'll keep my blinders on this time, a hedge is always a hedge no matter what u call it.
  • #54,284
  • Mar 31, 2016 4:09am Mar 31, 2016 4:09am
Quoting CookieMonsta
{quote} Good luck, I'll keep my blinders on this time, a hedge is always a hedge no matter what u call it.
Exactly so and I been calling it a hedge forever
  • #54,285
  • Mar 31, 2016 4:19am Mar 31, 2016 4:19am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} Exactly so and I been calling it a hedge forever
If I wanna hedge I'll buy puts to cover the long, p&l to upside is still there, downside effectively is the component which I want to cover is hedged, but I need to pay premium for that, its used only when there is lots uncertainly but probability is still good, but this is not in scope of this thread.
  • #54,286
  • Mar 31, 2016 4:22am Mar 31, 2016 4:22am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} Np he just needs to trim his hedge a bit to balance his portfolio until it blows back again on the next wave/dance.
.... you love what you do so go do it........and have fun......if it works for you then why be here...........

anyways ....... I stay with my car.... it's no slouch and fast enough

.... have fun with the hedgerows.
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #54,287
  • Mar 31, 2016 4:27am Mar 31, 2016 4:27am
Quoting alexandria
{quote} .... you love what you do so go do it........and have fun......if it works for you then why be here........... anyways ....... I stay with my car.... it's no slouch and fast enough .... have fun with the hedgerows.
It's called communication - an alien concept to everyone here I see
  • #54,288
  • Mar 31, 2016 7:15am Mar 31, 2016 7:15am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} It's called communication - an alien concept to everyone here I see
ur user is new. but ur stance is not. i think i have read posts on forexfactory which take on similar tone to you.

extreme aggressive, u probably came from the heaven of position lock, what you call "hedges" and you are the emperor there.

nope, you are not playing the devil's advocate. you are the devil. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...57#post8198157

i quote:
"A trader can only be lying to himself about his loss when he hedge his position in this manner which is an insult to the real McCoy professional hedger."


right tool in wrong hand do shit. is abuse. u will get your reward.
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #54,289
  • Mar 31, 2016 7:21am Mar 31, 2016 7:21am
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} It's called communication - an alien concept to everyone here I see
oh... anyone can communicate here ... is a free world(??).... been goin a long time this thread......and anyone can say sth back to you.... FTI will keep us all right if we go wrong... it is his thread.... and others here will help me if I go wrong and for that I am always grateful....
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #54,290
  • Edited 2:02pm Mar 31, 2016 12:59pm | Edited 2:02pm
Quoting Sa7an
{quote} No it is u that is missing the point.... {quote} Hedging is a tool not a strategy. I use hedges instead of stops - then depending on PA I'll trim the hedge or add to it or even close it completely or leave the hedge and close the other side. You really need to take the blinders off - oh and read the millipede thread too, although they call it diversivication no hedging - its same thing
nonono is you thats missing the point.anyway last i check the accounting standards with the FSA is still on FIFO.you definately not know what you are talking about.maybe you should have you trade account audited.and spend some time mediate in the slammers.Is still a free world, but maybe not for those in jail.Goodbye to You.please don't come back. otherwise i lock you out first before the bobbys gets you. I not want anyone to teach others here commit crimes.
Neither is it wise trade once every 13 years. Thats not very professional.
many peeps are actively trading and no one has the time to deal with your ego.
Go troll elsewhere , otherwise. :middle finger emoticon:
Is very easy for me use my middle finger press the button that locks you out. Be adviced.

regards

PS: and please do not get angry and do stupid things.
You already done much, probably because you are inexperienced and ill educated.
Is ok , you will learn, if it not takes your head off. But don't be stupid and fget angry and fall into my trap to excommunicate you.
good luck to you, you will need it most. Oh whats you callsign? satan.
  • #54,291
  • Mar 31, 2016 9:33pm Mar 31, 2016 9:33pm
Quoting fti
{quote} nonono is you thats missing the point.anyway last i check the accounting standards with the FSA is still on FIFO.you definately not know what you are talking about.maybe you should have you trade account audited.and spend some time mediate in the slammers.Is still a free world, but maybe not for those in jail.Goodbye to You.please don't come back. otherwise i lock you out first before the bobbys gets you. I not want anyone to teach others here commit crimes.
Neither is it wise trade once every 13 years. Thats not very professional.
many peeps are actively trading and no one has the time to deal with your ego.
Go troll elsewhere , otherwise. :middle finger emoticon:
Is very easy for me use my middle finger press the button that locks you out. Be adviced.

regards

PS: and please do not get angry and do stupid things.
You already done much, probably because you are inexperienced and ill educated.
Is ok , you will learn, if it not takes your head off. But don't be stupid and fget angry and fall into my trap to excommunicate you.
good luck to you, you will need it most. Oh whats you callsign? satan.

That is actually very smart. I never thought of that. Hahahahha. Goes to show, old ginger is wiser.. and more naughty?

Regards
Fall in love with the process, and the outcome takes care of itself.
  • #54,292
  • Mar 31, 2016 11:13pm Mar 31, 2016 11:13pm
Quoting RelaxRay
{quote} That is actually very smart. I never thought of that. Hahahahha. Goes to show, old ginger is wiser.. and more naughty? Regards
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  • #54,293
  • Apr 1, 2016 12:48am Apr 1, 2016 12:48am
old ginger?

http://americanmilitarynews.com/2015/10/watch-91-year-old-ww2-female-pilot-takes-one-more-flight-in-spitfire/?utm_source=usmilitary&utm_medium=googleplus&utm_campaign=alt
  • #54,294
  • Apr 1, 2016 2:57am Apr 1, 2016 2:57am
Quoting fti
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I used to live where Fentiman's is brewed in UK Hexham Northumberland ahhh home......dancin with my sister and my man on tables at Tap & Spile......great walks the best... the Shire.

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check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #54,295
  • Apr 1, 2016 4:43am Apr 1, 2016 4:43am
Quoting fti
{quote} nonono is you thats missing the point.anyway last i check the accounting standards with the FSA is still on FIFO.you definately not know what you are talking about.maybe you should have you trade account audited.and spend some time mediate in the slammers.Is still a free world, but maybe not for those in jail.Goodbye to You.please don't come back. otherwise i lock you out first before the bobbys gets you. I not want anyone to teach others here commit crimes. Neither is it wise trade once every 13 years. Thats not very professional. many...
........is April fool's day..... so maybe why he here (sorry just kiddin)....... but be good for him if he reads thread......
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #54,296
  • Edited 12:02pm Apr 1, 2016 7:00am | Edited 12:02pm
Quoting alexandria
{quote} I used to live where Fentiman's is brewed in UK Hexham Northumberland ahhh home......dancin with my sister and my man on tables at Tap & Spile......great walks the best... the Shire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPuf...eQKZbKsqTcufrg
wow, beautiful.
You have lived.
dancing on tabletops? ahhhh same as duxton road.


not all can be saved.
Only if they allow.
Is ok, lots more in the battlefields.

regards

ahhhh fools day. becareful Golden holidays ahead, Tokyo's out, markets thins down for 1 week+.
  • #54,297
  • Apr 1, 2016 7:40am Apr 1, 2016 7:40am
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  • #54,298
  • Apr 1, 2016 8:25am Apr 1, 2016 8:25am
Quoting fti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJPSIk1ULeM
Nice... had so much Chinese tea once outside Guilin.... many teas had profound effects on the body... very weird.......they take their tea seriously and so they should.... amazing.....
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #54,299
  • Edited 12:55pm Apr 1, 2016 12:15pm | Edited 12:55pm
Quoting alexandria
{quote} Nice... had so much Chinese tea once outside Guilin.... many teas had profound effects on the body... very weird.......they take their tea seriously and so they should.... amazing.....
Ahhh Guilin, i have a friend there.
Have you tried the anti cancer tea?
i ever tried 1 type mushroom tea, make me high high. sups up all the nerves.
Beats malaumeet hands down.
the bitter in malaumeet is not even 30% of it.


regards
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  • #54,300
  • Apr 3, 2016 9:55am Apr 3, 2016 9:55am
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ahhh Yappy April Poo.

regards
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