OrderFlowTrading.com - Become a Market Predator

​Who said I can't make any money?

An awful lot of assuming going on here.

Well...in your own words:

"For those who wonder why. $1m skillset, $0 working capital. And a bunch of scumbags for friends"

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Kudos for showing that you're demo trading, but the rest is confusing. Scumbags for friends? Are you referring to your friends on the "trading floor?"

Edit: Touch a nerve buddy?
No point asking me a question then blocking me so I can't reply!

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

lol I love transparency.

Before I go I will run one final program for those who seriously want to make a career of trading.

The price is $5,000.00 USD.

I will accept 12 participants.

At the end of 90 days I will pay out 50% profits earned on the account to the people who participated.

Warmest Regards,

DS Goldsmith

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Price Tag 5k X 12 students = $60,000 USD (This makes the course one of the most expensive courses around)

So he's planning to take in 60k to 70k just for 3 months of work

He says that he will trade this 60,000 USD and give back 50% of the profits made during the 3 months training period. Now lets say that if he makes a total of 10 to 30% during this time, he will only be able to give back 250 to 750 USD per student on the profits made , why not just give back 100% of the profits made?

he's just trying to cash out on the newbies

- I think everything has been written down on the previous 5-7 pages of this thread.
- There are always newbs with deep pockets, who believe that for a nice price-tag they will get a holy grail system that doesn't have losses or drawdowns.
- There are and there will be always scammers like DS who promise that they will teach these noobs to trade profitably in a very short period of time. Daemon Goldmith might close down, but then someone (or even DG under a different name) comes to his place... Just imagine. 60k - that's what most of the ppl make in a year. Why stop if you cam milk the crowd so much...

For those who wonder why I'm done trying to help people, browse through the last 5 or so pages of this thread. Good luck figuring it out on your own.

Does this site still exist? Neither orderflowtrading.com nor predatortradinggroup.com seem to be answering.

Looks like the Order Flow site is back online.

If you have been on the world of trading long enough, you already know that 98% of the books about trading are just plain crap. Well, this book is part of that 98% of garbage printed as a book to make newbies waste their time and make a losing trader make some bucks.
The book is truly insulting. How can somebody who is clueless about trading dare to sell a book about it?

If you still want the piece of junk, I can send it to you for free.

I agree. Which is why I put the man's 'book' on Scribd when the charlatan reneaged on his side of the bargain. "Darkstar" indeed - by name and nature but also crook and clown combined.

If you want to know about real Order Flow, Volume Profile and just how the market auction functions I strongly recommend and commend Mr D B Vaello at Order Flow Analytics.

Recieved another email from orderflow trading... today. This is just for your information. I am realy regreting that I paid nearly 3000 doller for this person now.

this is the email..




Something has happened and I can barely contain the excitement!
I really really REALLY need to tell you about it!!!
First off, some disclosure. The user accounts database needed to be deleted. Several times in fact.
See I never really took security seriously - not to the degree I should have anyway – and my website was hacked.
There were no credit card numbers or other personal information stolen because we don’t store any. It was just corrupted code and wasted resources…
In other words, you’ll need to create a new account.
On the bright side, this rebuild gave me an opportunity to reconsider how all the pieces fit together.
The goal was to rebuild from the ground up with simplicity as the goal. With every step along the path considered in light of where YOU are and what needs to happen for YOU to reach each level on the road to trading mastery.
It’s hard to say where the whole thing starts because there are so many entry points, but everyone eventually winds up here: https://orderflowtrading.com/ (https://orderflowtrading.com/tabid/39/ctl/EmailTracking/mid/1420/Default.aspx?linkID=10&[email protected]&itemid=3373)
Enrolling via that link will get you access to NEW CONTENT, and more importantly, will set you on the path to understanding a NEW OPPORTUNITY available in the marketplace!
You and I go way back so I’ll get right to the important stuff.
$1 enrollment via the link above will get you access to a 19-page overview of alpha generation and the role of order flow trading in the grand scheme of things, but it isn’t a complete solution.
If you’re looking for reliable order flow trading strategies that you can implement for everyday income you’ll need to upgrade access to the Order Flow Lesson Pack for $149.95.
The Lesson Pack contains a copy of my book in high resolution PDF, along with a collection of strategy documents & other resources which outline several recurring anomalies in the microstructure of markets that can be exploited for consistent trading profits.
All good and very useful stuff, but this new opportunity is something a bit different.
With that in mind I created a whole new process… A new Final Program that will conclude with a select group of traders achieving legendary results!
Unfortunately, email isn’t the place for the sort of discussion it requires. This is premium information and needs to be kept secret from the market until just the right moment.
You can find more details here: https://orderflowtrading.com/Final-Program (https://orderflowtrading.com/tabid/39/ctl/EmailTracking/mid/1420/Default.aspx?linkID=9&[email protected]&itemid=3373)
Check it out and let me know what you think!

D. S. Goldsmith
The Order Flow Trading Academy

PS: Deleting the user account database was an unfortunate necessity. As was trashing many years of site content. But we are in a better place and c’est la vie.
If you are looking for something that was deleted, let me know. It may be recoverable.
Most things are...

The Dark Star shineth - again...!

This man desrves a really "wide berth"... make sure you give him one.

He is the Cee-U Next Tuesday of the FX ccon-men club.

If you really want to read his book - go to Scribd. I put it there.

Hamish

Book book book... don't you guys get tired of the same old content? That book was written in 2010. The market has changed and so have the people involved in it.

What have you been doing for the last 7 years? Reading forums?

This "ccon-men club" member has been out there in the real world meeting with the masters of the universe on Wall Street.

Those encounters have developed into something completely new and I wanted to share the opportunity with the people in my very large contact list.

I sent you that email as a courtesy, but if you've become too jaded with the subject to see beyond the lessons of a 7 year old book, well I can understand. You and those like you SHOULD give my enterprise a "wide berth."

Everyone else is welcome to visit https://orderflowtrading.com to get started.

I hate stepping into what is a bit of a hornet's nest right now, but I have to disagree here. At the end of the day, I have Darkstar's back. He is the one who started talking about the whole "orderflow" concept here at FF years ago. He didn't invent orderflow, but he did a huge service to the community of simply bringing up the term--he's a smart guy. The reason that it needed to be brought up is that retail Forex guys never get the chance to actually learn the mechanics of trading. If a young trader has no clue how real trading works, and therefore no clue what tactics are necessary to win when really trading (issuing real market/limit orders) in a REAL MARKET, then that trader will never progress. The alternative to the above would be to get lucky and find a repeating pattern in the market that you could exploit, the trouble is, that pattern will rub itself out, or your counter party will find it also and you will become subject to adverse selection and or used as cheap, predictable liquidity. Trading is both war and cooperation, that's the key to OF trading that I have discovered personally. A fledgling trader has to walk this road to come to the realizations necessary to trade profitably in the long run.

I remember the days of racking my brain trying to discover what information guys like Gaston and DS were using that was "off the chart." There was a time when I was paying a lot of money each month to the CME for data where I actually found some cool stuff--Darkstar can attest to those days as we emailed back and forth a few times. The true essence of OF trading is a little more complicated and lies much more in the realm of strategy, it's a simple truth that exists and it safely hidden in one's mind. At the end of the day though, yes, to trade profitably means catching price movements, that's the name of the game and it can be done. The market is a cooperative ATM machine, you just need to know the real game; It is one of collusion and suckers.

I think it'd be cool to get some guys together to pool funds and actually trade rather than talk about trading all the time. Why not just go to the market with investor funds and provide a healthy return instead of giving everyone the keys to the safe. So instead of being a hedge fund, we could start more of a sludge fund since we're a bunch of dirty little scoundrels pooling our resources. FF, I'm not selling anything, just blabbering.

The funny thing about this so called mentors who wishing to educate poor newbies and share information and help them to achieve life long sustaniabale income (according to DS's own words) brings me tears in my eyes..such a generous sons of GOD.

Anyone know what became of Darkstar and James J16? They were two of the biggies on here a while back. Is Darkstars book still kicking around? Thanks.

This should be printed and displayed on everyone's trading desk