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  • #5,141
  • Mar 14, 2016 11:40am Mar 14, 2016 11:40am
Quoting birpinar
{quote} Have I done or said stg wrong Dana? I just exaimned how the DB and Sar on a chart just adding only 2 of them for better understanding them. Did not add another thing on your system.
I was not talking about you - I'm talking about traders that wants to add EA's, robot indicators, or any other indicator that does not belong with the Paradox.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,142
  • Mar 14, 2016 2:10pm Mar 14, 2016 2:10pm
Quoting dove_alliance
Date: Daily: ROMAR - Resistance or Support EMA - Resistance or Support PSAR - Resistance or Support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing Last EMA Alert Arrow Last DB Attachment Fibo up or down Notes: 2 HR: OPEN PRICE - ROMAR - Resistance or Support EMA - Resistance or Support PSAR - Resistance or Support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing Last EMA Alert Arrow Last DB Attachment Fibo up or down Notes: 1 HR: ROMAR - Resistance or Support EMA - Resistance or Support PSAR - Resistance or Support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing Last EMA Alert Arrow Last DB...
I have a question.
"For those who are wondering about the difference between the Lime Green and the Red Arrows showing before the crossing of the MACD is relevant. And the reason is because if you have the MACD and the EMA alerts on the same bar or; MACD crossing before the Arrows you are then looking at a major retrace in the near future. So you want the Arrows before the MACD crossings going the same direction."

I didn't get it:
For a major retrace in the near future we need:
1) MACD crossing before ARROWS
or
2) Arrows showing before crossing of the MACD ???

From the latest actions I understood that we need 1) MACD crossing before EMA ARROWS.
Is that correct?
  • #5,143
  • Mar 14, 2016 2:45pm Mar 14, 2016 2:45pm
Talking About the "Conflict" EMA Arrows and MACD Arrows.

1) The best way is to have first the EMA ARROW (for example) UP ARROW and then the MACD Arrow.

Why? Because when we have a EMA UP Arrow, we start preparing for go UP. And we can confirm with the MACD Up Arrow, this is the start of a good movement (obviously verifyng with 4 horsemen, Romar, Parabolic, SAR/DB.. all the Resistance/Support)

2) When we have First the MACD UP Arrow, and we see the bars incrasing of size and then we have the EMA UP Arrow... we are near of the price stop and go down for the retrace. I think is the reason that first es better to have the EMA ARROW and then MACD ARROW.

*(obviously verifyng with 4 horsemen, Romar, Parabolic, SAR/DB.. all the Resistance/Support)*

But writting in this moment and watching in my other monitor the chart... I see in the H2 first arrive the MACD Down Arrow... but the price start to raise, and then create the Divergence while the MACD still bellow ZERO for the short. And then arrive the Red EMA Arrow with price above of the first MACD Short Signal (and i think is the meaning of the small candles in the MACD but never cross for upside) and when the RED ARROW appears is the way for the Short Position that sadly i miss it and i went wrong lol....

Im Right Dana? Or better i deleted this post? (Im going to edit this last 2 questions, after i see ur answer for dont make any confuse)
  • #5,144
  • Mar 14, 2016 2:48pm Mar 14, 2016 2:48pm
Previously Dove had talked about watching out for tentative reports... just as a heads up there are 2 red JPY tentative reports coming out later.
  • #5,145
  • Mar 14, 2016 2:49pm Mar 14, 2016 2:49pm
Quoting bigijs
{quote} I have a question. "For those who are wondering about the difference between the Lime Green and the Red Arrows showing before the crossing of the MACD is relevant. And the reason is because if you have the MACD and the EMA alerts on the same bar or; MACD crossing before the Arrows you are then looking at a major retrace in the near future. So you want the Arrows before the MACD crossings going the same direction." I didn't get it: For a major retrace in the near future we need: 1) MACD crossing before ARROWS or 2) Arrows showing before crossing...
You have to separate the trends in order to understand. A beginning of a trend is with the EMA alert Red arrow pointing down for a downtrend; and the EMA alert Lime Green arrow pointing up for an uptrend. After the Red/Lime Green arrows are lock in then the MACD White arrow will appear and verify the trend pointing in the same direction as the trend arrows. This means the EMA alert Arrows will appear BEFORE the MACD White Arrow.

IF - the MACD comes in before the EMA alert Arrows and are opposite of the PREVIOUS EMA arrows you are in conflict with the trend. And most of the time it is against the ROMAR trend. This also indicates a heavy retrace when the NEXT Trend EMA alert pops in and will turn back into the ROMAR with either the SAR and/or Both DB/SAR. later I will post examples with charts of how this is done.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,146
  • Mar 14, 2016 2:50pm Mar 14, 2016 2:50pm
Quoting tradertron
Previously Dove had talked about watching out for tentative reports... just as a heads up there are 2 red JPY tentative reports coming out later.
Thank you
  • #5,147
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:17pm Mar 14, 2016 3:17pm
Taking a look at this 1 hour chart which has many conflicts such as with the MACD. You see the Lime Green Arrow pointing up for ROMAR trend. I then had the high impact announcement and afterwards you get the MACD White Arrow pointing up and verifying the Trend. At opening yesterday you had the MACD reappear with the White Arrow pointing down in conflict of the trend. Later you get the RED ARROW on the Daily RETRACE off the DB/SAR and hit the 1 hour ROMAR. And now you need the EMA RED arrow for this to go back up in sync with the ROMAR trend. The 2 hour is the same with the conflict of the opposite MACD White Arrow of the ROMAR trend and once the Red Arrow popped in it too went south.

This is how I new it was going south in needing the EMA Red Arrow.
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The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,148
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:19pm Mar 14, 2016 3:19pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} You have to separate the trends in order to understand. A beginning of a trend is with the EMA alert Red arrow pointing down for a downtrend; and the EMA alert Lime Green arrow pointing up for an uptrend. After the Red/Lime Green arrows are lock in then the MACD White arrow will appear and verify the trend pointing in the same direction as the trend arrows. This means the EMA alert Arrows will appear BEFORE the MACD White Arrow. IF - the MACD comes in before the EMA alert Arrows and are opposite of the PREVIOUS EMA arrows you are in conflict...
That's a very good explanation! I've been busy and not able to read the original post more than about a dozen times, but that's very clear. Thanks so much!!
~ Tim
  • #5,149
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:22pm Mar 14, 2016 3:22pm
Quoting dove_alliance
Taking a look at this 1 hour chart which has many conflicts such as with the MACD. You see the Lime Green Arrow pointing up for ROMAR trend. I then had the high impact announcement and afterwards you get the MACD White Arrow pointing up and verifying the Trend. At opening yesterday you had the MACD reappear with the White Arrow pointing down in conflict of the trend. Later you get the RED ARROW on the Daily RETRACE off the DB/SAR and hit the 1 hour ROMAR. And now you need the EMA RED arrow for this to go back up in sync with the ROMAR trend. The...
When this turns going back north you need the RED ARROW before the MACD Arrow.

EDIT: Sorry --- Lime Green Arrow going back north.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,150
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:28pm Mar 14, 2016 3:28pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} You have to separate the trends in order to understand. A beginning of a trend is with the EMA alert Red arrow pointing down for a downtrend; and the EMA alert Lime Green arrow pointing up for an uptrend. After the Red/Lime Green arrows are lock in then the MACD White arrow will appear and verify the trend pointing in the same direction as the trend arrows. This means the EMA alert Arrows will appear BEFORE the MACD White Arrow. IF - the MACD comes in before the EMA alert Arrows and are opposite of the PREVIOUS EMA arrows you are in conflict...
Thank you Dana for your continued patience looking forward to the examples.
You have already posted them...thank you.
  • #5,151
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:30pm Mar 14, 2016 3:30pm
Quoting dove_alliance
Taking a look at this 1 hour chart which has many conflicts such as with the MACD. You see the Lime Green Arrow pointing up for ROMAR trend. I then had the high impact announcement and afterwards you get the MACD White Arrow pointing up and verifying the Trend. At opening yesterday you had the MACD reappear with the White Arrow pointing down in conflict of the trend. Later you get the RED ARROW on the Daily RETRACE off the DB/SAR and hit the 1 hour ROMAR. And now you need the EMA RED arrow for this to go back up in sync with the ROMAR trend. The...
Now i Know "Conflict" Word.
  • #5,152
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:34pm Mar 14, 2016 3:34pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} You have to separate the trends in order to understand. A beginning of a trend is with the EMA alert Red arrow pointing down for a downtrend; and the EMA alert Lime Green arrow pointing up for an uptrend. After the Red/Lime Green arrows are lock in then the MACD White arrow will appear and verify the trend pointing in the same direction as the trend arrows. This means the EMA alert Arrows will appear BEFORE the MACD White Arrow. IF - the MACD comes in before the EMA alert Arrows and are opposite of the PREVIOUS EMA arrows you are in conflict...
Ok, I see. Very good explanation, thank you.
  • #5,153
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:49pm Mar 14, 2016 3:49pm
Here is another conflict with the Daily. Notice the Lime Green Arrow and the MACD Arrow on the SAME BAR. This is a conflict because the Lime Green Arrow was not BEFORE the MACD arrow but on the same bar. This indicating a retrace off Resistance with the RED Arrow and then back into trend off support with the LIME GREEN Arrow.
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The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,154
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:13pm Mar 14, 2016 4:13pm
I thought I was missing something with the session changes and I did:

This screen shot is with my 2 hour session indicator and notice that I had changed the gmtServerOffset minus 1 number yesterday but I forgot the minus 1 hour from 17:00 to 16:00 for Sidney which will give the session line:
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The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,155
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:18pm Mar 14, 2016 4:18pm
The only problem is you will also get another session line at 18:00 but the first one comes in at 17:00.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #5,156
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:26pm Mar 14, 2016 4:26pm
Thank you
  • #5,157
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:31pm Mar 14, 2016 4:31pm
Date: 3/14/16

Daily: (will need to keep an eye on the open of this a little later)
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Support
PSAR - Support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing - UP
Last EMA Alert Arrow - UP
Last DB Attachment - 127.27 DB up just below ROMAR
Fibo up or down - UP

Notes: Currently sandwiching between Romar and 4 horsemen, but hasn't hit the Romar just yet. We've found some support off of purple. Green Divergence present with thistle tag. We've got some room to go up. At the 50 fib as well.

2 HR:
OPEN PRICE -
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing - down
Last EMA Alert Arrow - down
Last DB Attachment - DB heading down at 126.06 from divergence (thistle)
Fibo up or down - down

Notes: Moving into a squeeze between EMA and Romar. Need to really pay attention to what the 2HR is going to show us around these two.

1 HR:
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing - down
Last EMA Alert Arrow - up
Last DB Attachment - n/a
Fibo up or down - up

Notes: Romar just respected on the charts a few hours ago with a move back up toward resistance at the EMA and Psar. We will see a fight between this S/R as well short term.

Final Notes for all three charts: Consolidated overall so we can trade both ways. We are in sync with the down arrows on the 2HR and we are showing longer term down move pressure with the DB down as well as the fibs. Not much room to trade back down to Romar on the 1 hour, however. Would like to see a Ema Romar cross on the 1HR before making a play to take the 2HR down toward Romar. I will sit still on this until the 2HR shows its hand. This could be a slow battle. Support on the Daily too.

Entry:
Consolidation:
Long:
Short: Sitting out for now. Will wait. Will look for something below 1HR Romar with a cross - maybe. Need to watch daily.
Life is too short to have anything but delusional notions about yourself.
  • #5,158
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:40pm Mar 14, 2016 4:40pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} No - and the reason is because long term trading is not about Intraday trading and brings too much confusion on the thread.
Sorry, I don't understand that. You only have to title the instructions "longterm". But it's your thread.
  • #5,159
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:44pm Mar 14, 2016 4:44pm
[quote=hoss;8813521]Date: 3/14/16 Daily: (will need to keep an eye on the open of this a little later) ROMAR - Resistance EMA - Support PSAR - Support Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing - UP Last EMA Alert Arrow - UP Last DB Attachment - 127.27 DB up just below ROMAR Fibo up or down - UP Notes: Currently sandwiching between Romar and 4 horsemen, but hasn't hit the Romar just yet. We've found some support off of purple. Green Divergence present with thistle tag. We've got some room to go up. At the 50 fib as well. 2 HR: OPEN PRICE - ROMAR - Support EMA - Resistance PSAR - Resistance Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing - down Last EMA Alert Arrow - down Last DB Attachment - DB heading down at 126.06 from divergence (thistle) Fibo up or down - down Notes: Moving into a squeeze between EMA and Romar. Need to really pay attention to what the 2HR is going to show us around these two. 1 HR: ROMAR - Support EMA - Resistance PSAR - Resistance Check List: Last MACD 0 crossing - down Last EMA Alert Arrow - up Last DB Attachment - n/a Fibo up or down - up

I have 126.067 as the last DB attachment on the 1HR, anyone else?
  • #5,160
  • Edited 5:10pm Mar 14, 2016 4:49pm | Edited 5:10pm
Date: 14/03/2016
Daily:
ROMAR - Resistance
EMA - Support
PSAR - Support

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing - The crossing is up.
Last EMA Alert Arrow - Lime Green up on same bar of the MACD crossing up: Retrace with Red Arrow and then Lime Green up.
Last DB Attachment - Both DB/SAR attached on top at 127.277 for continuance of the uptrend.
Fibo up or down - Fibo is up from the bottom.

Notes: The 4 horsemen are in the uptrend with ROMAR as resistance at the upper BB with a spread of 125 pips between current price and ROMAR resistance with all signals in sync for the uptrend. The price touch the Purple and then bounce back for the up.

2 HR:
OPEN PRICE - 126.379
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing - The crossing is down.
Last EMA Alert Arrow Red Down after the MACD Down Arrow appeared.
Last DB Attachment - Both DB/SAR attached on Bottom 126.067 for continuance of the downtrend.
Fibo up or down - Fibo is down from the top.

Notes: The 4 horsemen are downtrend. The Parabolic and EMA is now Resistance, with the DB/SAR for the downtrend and already attached to the bottom. We are at 70pips from the current price to the next Support that is ROMAR. Fibonnaci still red.

1 HR:
ROMAR - Support
EMA - Resistance
PSAR - Resistance

Check List:
Last MACD 0 crossing - The Current Candle is trying to cross above zero.
Last EMA Alert Arrow - Lime Green up before the current MACD Arrow 2 hours ago.
Last DB Attachment - (In One Hour we have this???)


Notes: We have the price bounce from Support ROMAR. And now Purple cross White and Smooth. EMA still Resistance with the trend of PSAR. The PSAR isnt a resistance because The Purple cross White. In the current Candle we have a MACD ARROW for the UP, and previous two candles we have the Green Up Arrow EMA. The Fibonnaci is Green and bouncing from Zero to go Up.

Final Notes for all three charts: The Price bounce from Support Purple in D1. And in D1 we still have 4 horsemen for the upside and the next Resistance is ROMAR in 125 pips With parabolic for the up and Fibonnaci Green, D1 still trying to go to Romar.
Talking in H2, Already we have attached to the bottom the SAR/DB with the BlueLight Divergence and the price start to bounce for the Up. The 4 Horsemen still for downtrend With MACD and Red Arrow.
Talking in H1, The Price bounce from Romar, with Purple cross White and Smooth. We have Green EMA BEFORE the UP MACD ARROW. If the MACD ARROW is set as Stone.

Entry:
Consolidation: (I dont know??)
Long: If MACD ARROW h1 is set at stone, im going to entry when H2 EMA GREEN ARROW APPEAR With Purple cross/at White
Short: If the open candle is bellow ROMAR. In H1 and I have in that moment 50pips to ROMAR in H2. This trade is going to be for only 20 pips, because ROMAR is outside of BB in H2.

Notes for readjustments:
Every new Candle H2 can be new readjustments.

***Any Comments very very Welcome***
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