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  • #2,261
  • Mar 11, 2016 8:55am Mar 11, 2016 8:55am
Oil market is manipulated heavy
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  • #2,262
  • Mar 11, 2016 10:14am Mar 11, 2016 10:14am
Quoting Marz30
Oil market is manipulated heavy
Yesterday Mario clearly told us it was going up.
  • #2,263
  • Mar 11, 2016 1:09pm Mar 11, 2016 1:09pm
not worried about Mario or your opinion
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  • #2,264
  • Mar 11, 2016 6:06pm Mar 11, 2016 6:06pm
But you just posted your two opinions as well. I think most traders here were worried about what Mario had to say as their money and bets were on the table. His opinion and acts are what lead market direction for the Euro,Dax,oil,gold and US indexes this week.
  • #2,265
  • Mar 12, 2016 4:13am Mar 12, 2016 4:13am
Quoting stylinex
But you just posted your two opinions as well. I think most traders here were worried about what Mario had to say as their money and bets were on the table. His opinion and acts are what lead market direction for the Euro,Dax,oil,gold and US indexes this week.
Your right Marios opinion does matter and since hes so clear, the market will look ahead to the FED meeting. Still doesn't mean oil is not manipulated...
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  • #2,266
  • Mar 14, 2016 3:10am Mar 14, 2016 3:10am
Quoting stylinex
But you just posted your two opinions as well. I think most traders here were worried about what Mario had to say as their money and bets were on the table. His opinion and acts are what lead market direction for the Euro,Dax,oil,gold and US indexes this week.
Don't go looking under the bridge, there you will find trolls!
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  • #2,267
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:39am Mar 14, 2016 4:39am
Quoting Exodus
{quote} Don't go looking under the bridge, there you will find trolls!
Thanks

I have a feeling that what Ali Al-Naimi said could take place either this month or next month if it is going to take place. After that as Spring and summer approaches oi should climb into summer season. My $.02..
http://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurbe.../#30c4bcfe6f45
  • #2,268
  • Mar 14, 2016 4:52am Mar 14, 2016 4:52am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Thanks I have a feeling that what Ali Al-Naimi said could take place either this month or next month if it is going to take place. After that as Spring and summer approaches oi should climb into summer season. My $.02.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurbe.../#30c4bcfe6f45
He is right and iran have already stated they wont do anything until they reach 4 million barrels a day http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-13/iran-on-oil-freeze-leave-us-alone-until-production-higher
  • #2,269
  • Mar 14, 2016 5:07am Mar 14, 2016 5:07am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Thanks I have a feeling that what Ali Al-Naimi said could take place either this month or next month if it is going to take place. After that as Spring and summer approaches oi should climb into summer season. My $.02.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurbe.../#30c4bcfe6f45
Interesting article, rather biased to the short side, but I have the feeling that it is outdated if we consider that the total of US oil rigs has fallen into a record low and it continuous to fall. Additionally, the latest report from Credit Suisse showed that oil producers (whether these are countries or companies) have not benefited from the oil price increase of the last month due to the fact that they were largely hedged at lower prices because they couldnt afford even lower prices. So in order for them to start making money they need oil to stabilize at current or higher levels. On top of all of that, we know that the oil market is heavily manipulated and I certainly do not believe the Saudis on the matter, because they say one thing and do the other, usually to keep the oil market and themselves in the news and also to continue showing within OPEC that they still reign. For sure around the 20th of March there will be a lot of volatility in the price of oil, and we might see a correction when nothing serious is decided.
"Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered"
  • #2,270
  • Mar 14, 2016 5:12am Mar 14, 2016 5:12am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Thanks I have a feeling that what Ali Al-Naimi said could take place either this month or next month if it is going to take place. After that as Spring and summer approaches oi should climb into summer season. My $.02.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/arthurbe.../#30c4bcfe6f45
Thanks, this chart is very instructive
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  • #2,271
  • Mar 14, 2016 9:42pm Mar 14, 2016 9:42pm
Quoting stylinex
Word has it that war will take place next month in The Middle East with Syria,Turkey and Saudi Arabia so oil will go up.
I think my sources were correct. Russians leaving now.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35807689
  • #2,272
  • Mar 14, 2016 10:28pm Mar 14, 2016 10:28pm
Quoting stylinex
{quote} I think my sources were correct. Russians leaving now. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35807689
I think the freeze on Oil production is confirmed through this news. Otherwise, I don't believe in any of the reasons provided. What do you think?
  • #2,273
  • Mar 14, 2016 10:48pm Mar 14, 2016 10:48pm
Quoting Fadhl
{quote} I think the freeze on Oil production is confirmed through this news. Otherwise, I don't believe in any of the reasons provided. What do you think?
I think all Gulf Countries got together and bought Putin out. America did some behind the scene arm twisting. Telling Putin oil and all other commodities will go to $10 unless he agrees otherwise oil tanks,gas tanks,gold tanks, he ends up fighting Turkey and other Gulf Allies in this upcoming invasion to oust Bashar next month. Putin saw he had more to lose then gain and agreed to pack up and leave.
  • #2,274
  • Mar 15, 2016 2:12am Mar 15, 2016 2:12am
Putin has what he wanted, a Russian airbase on the coast of the Med.
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  • #2,275
  • Mar 15, 2016 3:34am Mar 15, 2016 3:34am
Quoting Exodus
Putin has what he wanted, a Russian airbase on the coast of the Med.
I agree, I don't see this as a signal of a ground invasion by anyone Putin has what he wanted and has assisted the Syrian government to abandon them now for someone to invade would be seen as weakness in Russia and that would be a political disaster for him more so than economic issues that he can blame on the west
  • #2,276
  • Mar 15, 2016 3:48am Mar 15, 2016 3:48am
Putin is playing a very good diplomatic game by showing that he only wanted to provide a solution to the stalemate and now that everyone is back in Geneva on balanced terms talking about ending this war he doesnt want to provoke further the allies but wants to look like the nice guy, peacemaker, problem solver.
"Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered"
  • #2,277
  • Mar 15, 2016 4:45am Mar 15, 2016 4:45am
Quoting S.McDuck
{quote} I agree, I don't see this as a signal of a ground invasion by anyone Putin has what he wanted and has assisted the Syrian government to abandon them now for someone to invade would be seen as weakness in Russia and that would be a political disaster for him more so than economic issues that he can blame on the west
He would have a problem though. The Gulf States teamed up and put together 125K soldiers for a ground invasion. They also got together for military backup. You have Saudi,Jordan,Turkey,UAE,Bahrain and a couple of others from what I hear. Europe,USA and Israel were to back with air support as well. Russia would have a lot to go up against even if Iran joined and back them up. He would be better off cutting his losses now and actually coming up ahead taking the money in his pocket to back up. From what I know Russia was paid off big time for this to take place. We are talking major money here. How do they get this money back?? That is how commodity prices went up recently.
  • #2,278
  • Mar 15, 2016 4:55am Mar 15, 2016 4:55am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} He would have a problem though. The Gulf States teamed up and put together 125K soldiers for a ground invasion. They also got together for military backup. You have Saudi,Jordan,Turkey,UAE,Bahrain and a couple of others from what I hear. Europe,USA and Israel were to back with air support as well. Russia would have a lot to go up against even if Iran joined and back them up. He would be better off cutting his losses now and actually coming up ahead taking the money in his pocket to back up. From what I know Russia was paid off big time for...
You make good points but Russia is a nuclear power so if he wanted to shield the Syrian government he could. The gulf states and the west aren't about to start that war, Russia being on the ground produces the stale mate that prevents invasion. To save face in Russia he would need to join any invasion force rather than sit and watch and that will take some impressive political spin even for the Russians
  • #2,279
  • Mar 15, 2016 4:59am Mar 15, 2016 4:59am
Quoting S.McDuck
{quote} You make good points but Russia is a nuclear power so if he wanted to shield the Syrian government he could. The gulf states and the west aren't about to start that war, Russia being on the ground produces the stale mate that prevents invasion. To save face in Russia he would need to join any invasion force rather than sit and watch and that will take some impressive political spin even for the Russians
Let us wait and see what happens next month or the month after (most likely next month though). Big boys worked out something behind closed doors. Russia has some sanctions it wanted lifted as well and maybe some land it wanted to keep with its own internal conflict. Everyone has their own interests. I am sure Putin would not pack up and leave for nothing. He is too smart and powerful to do so for nothing in return.
  • #2,280
  • Mar 15, 2016 5:19am Mar 15, 2016 5:19am
Quoting stylinex
{quote} Let us wait and see what happens next month or the month after (most likely next month though). Big boys worked out something behind closed doors. Russia has some sanctions it wanted lifted as well and maybe some land it wanted to keep with its own internal conflict. Everyone has their own interests. I am sure Putin would not pack up and leave for nothing. He is too smart and powerful to do so for nothing in return.
True Putin is a tyrant but not a fool
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