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  • #21
  • Mar 13, 2016 12:49pm Mar 13, 2016 12:49pm
Quoting chiche
Haniam and Davit are right, is hard to explain, I do not think that he use MAs or TDI for entries or exits. But I 'm not sure. I think this is so importan""" it is not swing in the the literal definition. I used small TF (M1, M5) for entries, medium one (M15, M60) for a short time view and a large one (H4,D1)for the big view.""""
Well I only showed a way to make pips that have certain parameters.10EMA works on ALL tf's
Haniam may use something else or just plain candles.Point is everyone has a trigger point.Line in the sand.Without this narrow parameters you will most likely be doing a guess work.Why guess?
Try on demo take 100pips using TDI+10EMA and see your results.
Regards
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #22
  • Mar 13, 2016 12:51pm Mar 13, 2016 12:51pm
Quoting vasily
ı cant believe people reading this kind things here.member @haniam please use your trading system/robot and make fortune and live well {image}
You probably will never get this image.Most never reach it.
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In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #23
  • Edited 1:33pm Mar 13, 2016 1:01pm | Edited 1:33pm
Quoting haniam
# 4xPIPAHOLIC Thanks for the clarification # dragonexpert it is real account, this is visible in the link at the main page # HighFivve it is not swing in the the literal definition. I used small TF (M1, M5) for entries, medium one (M15, M60) for a short time view and a large one (H4,D1)for the big view. Main indicator is the price behavior + support and resistance levels. Need a good volatility market to do such result. # tunera average spread/commission is variable but less than 1 pips
congrats on bagging some dosh from the markets. you said critics are welcome so here is my view from the information you have provided:

Your entries mainly stay open only for a few seconds and are at many many different price points. So the concept that you are using S&R as entry technique does not really play out because there is not S&R levels at all those vast price points that you have made entries at.
It very much looks like you are simply opening a trade and closing it the moment it makes positive.
The sheer volume of trades that you have made means that you have wasted so much money in paying spreads - if you said that you have an average size of say 4 lots then that would be 4x $10x 1600 trades = $64,000 in spreads assuming a spread of 1 pip
The financial differential between your winning and losing trades is so tight that for this system to be successful the win % has to be very high to stand a chance of covering draw down but, your win/loss $ is very close to parity and your win percentage is 61% so this could easily tip the other way in terms of success.

I don't doubt what you have done, but I doubt that you can keep it up and I would estimate that it is more by chance that you have achieved the result, thereby if you get a different day or market profile the result would likely be completely different.

gl
  • #24
  • Mar 13, 2016 1:30pm Mar 13, 2016 1:30pm
# johnjakarta # chiche There is a long process of learning and training before starting to be consistently positive. Read a lot, practice a lot, daily. Never give up. Be open minded, modest, curious and very patient. Learn a bit form everyone, every day.

# Hurst Exhausted, sure. But I am used to intensive trading for hours and the results were encouraging to go on and on. I was surprised by the number of trades afterword. Congratulation for you doubling. I hope it was a well funded account.
Your advice of withdrawal is 100% valuable. I did this on other accounts. Will not yet on this one as I have some goals to achieve this week.

# Davit Indeed it is hard to explain. Thanx for your example. Great illustration!

# johny1 Size calculation formula is quiet simple. Using something like 1:50 leverage. For quick calculation it would be the balance divided by 2. For 1000 USD it is round 50 minilots or 0.5 lots. For 20K round 10 lots. But the important point is not to let the losses exceeding 5% (the max was 1.8% for the current trades)

# vasily Davist's illustration says it all.
I am living well, thanx. Not sure fortune would help living better.

# MaxDoom Thanks for your comments.
Indeed positive critics are welcome in this thread
They are accurate in a certain way. I will clarify in the next post.
  • #25
  • Mar 13, 2016 1:35pm Mar 13, 2016 1:35pm
Amazing haniam I see similar results in PAMM managers of Instaforex, Lite Forex and in other Russian Forex brokers where investors lured to join . You did in 2 days , some PAMM managers doing in 150 days or 30 days. But weird part is..Steve Nisan still attract more attentions than you or George Soros still have more Wikipedia leverage as a great trader or investor than you.

However you done wow job ..and if your broker allow you to withdraw profits then arrange big party and buy something .

Good luck ..hope you will break this record in future.
Patience is best EA in Trading
  • #26
  • Mar 13, 2016 2:17pm Mar 13, 2016 2:17pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} You probably will never get this image.Most never reach it. {image}
no
  • #27
  • Mar 13, 2016 2:19pm Mar 13, 2016 2:19pm
my english not good.let a american tell you story
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  • #28
  • Mar 13, 2016 2:24pm Mar 13, 2016 2:24pm
ı didnt check the trade history cus its not needed.but ı can tell you how it works from result %
work on just demo
it trade latency between demo and real
trade are closed in second
this is very probable demo live data feed arbitrage robot and dont work on live account

time will tell

and member @davit arent you good at trading and still beliving hollygrail thing
  • #29
  • Edited 3:49pm Mar 13, 2016 2:40pm | Edited 3:49pm
Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} Your entries mainly stay open only for a few seconds and are at many many different price points.
True. Most trades are under 1 minute. This is sometimes called scalping.

Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} So the concept that you are using S&R as entry technique does not really play out because there is not S&R levels at all those vast price points that you have made entries at.
S&R are very dynamic and differs depending on your concept and TimeFrame you use.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles...cal/061801.asp
As for wikipedia "These levels are denoted by multiple touches of price without a breakthrough of the level."
I do not follow these criteria for this kind of trading. They are irrelevant.
I tend more for 'where demands and offers meets'. You will be surprised how much more levels you may find to be able to do hundreds of entries in few hours.
One of my main triggers is this basic concept of support and resistance and M1 as TF for entry.

Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} It very much looks like you are simply opening a trade and closing it the moment it makes positive.
Opening the trade is as clarified earlier. For the closing, it is either:
- the trade is positive and meeting (what I interpret as) next S&R
- the trade is in negative and seems (as of my view) to be in the wrong direction.

Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} The sheer volume of trades that you have made means that you have wasted so much money in paying spreads - if you said that you have an average size of say 4 lots then that would be 4x $10x 1600 trades = $64,000 in spreads assuming a spread of 1 pip
Spread is variable but most of time round 0.4-0.5 pips for EURUSD
For the 1655 trades, I can read in the status of the generated independent report (in the closed orders section) that it had a volume of 7866 lot so it would make 7866 x 0.45 x 10 = 35K that different financial institution would have got from my trades. Only part of it would go to the broker.
Is it worthy? I have 28K in my balance. I will not complain. Let me ask another similar question to illustrate what I mean. I pay 70% of my electricity bill in taxes and distribution cost. Only 30% goes for the electricity. Is it worthy?

Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} The financial differential between your winning and losing trades is so tight that for this system to be successful the win % has to be very high to stand a chance of covering draw down but, your win/loss $ is very close to parity and your win percentage is 61% so this could easily tip the other way in terms of success.
You forgot a very important factor in your equation, the risk reward ratio (R/R)
In these trades, as mentioned in the first post, my R/R is way less than 1.
"Gains are from 0 to 30 pips per trade.
Losses from 0 to 10 pips
Biggest gain 1620 USD (6.2%)
Biggest loss 390 USD (1.8%)"

I could be way under 50% winning and still be profitable. It s all about risk management.

Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} I don't doubt what you have done, but I doubt that you can keep it up and I would estimate that it is more by chance that you have achieved the result, thereby if you get a different day or market profile the result would likely be completely different. gl
Follow the report during next week. It will be automatically updated as I open new trades. Maybe 'chance' will keep being with me?


I appreciate such positive critics. They help me to see where I should clarify and what different points to develop.
  • #30
  • Edited 3:35pm Mar 13, 2016 3:18pm | Edited 3:35pm
Quoting rosyfx
Amazing haniam I see similar results in PAMM managers of Instaforex, Lite Forex and in other Russian Forex brokers where investors lured to join . You did in 2 days , some PAMM managers doing in 150 days or 30 days. But weird part is..Steve Nisan still attract more attentions than you or George Soros still have more Wikipedia leverage as a great trader or investor than you. However you done wow job ..and if your broker allow you to withdraw profits then arrange big party and buy something . Good luck ..hope you will break this record in future....
I would never manage my PAMM account in the way I trade this one. The strategy is way different. Risk management and goals are different.
I would not compare myself to George Soros. He is a legend in the trading. I am far away from being as he is.
Still I think that I am an experienced trader that knows what he is doing.

"if your broker allow you to withdraw profits "
Good point rosyfx. I never did any withdrawal with this broker. They seem correct till now.
We will know in a week or two when I request a first partial withdrawal.
If I get problems in the process I will make sure every forex forum would know about it.

"hope you will break this record in future"
Follow the report during next week. It will be automatically updated as I open new trades. Maybe a new record is on the way.
  • #31
  • Edited 3:50pm Mar 13, 2016 3:31pm | Edited 3:50pm
Quoting vasily
ı didnt check the trade history cus its not needed.but ı can tell you how it works from result % work on just demo it trade latency between demo and real trade are closed in second this is very probable demo live data feed arbitrage robot and dont work on live account time will tell and member @davit arent you good at trading and still beliving hollygrail thing
If you do not want to check the trade history for any of your reasons, please do bother checking the overview of the report.
it clearly mentions:

Account type:Real
(this means live account, NOT demo)

Maybe also I should repeat in an easy English:
NO robots, NO EAs used in these tradings.

Again:
ONLY MANUAL Trading used in these operations.

I hope it is now clear for these 2 points ( Real live account, manual trading) so we can pass on further discussions in next posts.
  • #32
  • Mar 13, 2016 3:46pm Mar 13, 2016 3:46pm
so we can pass on further discussions in next posts.[/quote]

yes please
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  • #33
  • Mar 13, 2016 3:58pm Mar 13, 2016 3:58pm
Quoting haniam
{quote} If you do not want to check the trade history for any of your reasons, please do bother checking the overview of the report. it clearly mentions: Account type:Real (this means live account, NOT demo) Maybe also I should repeat in an easy English: NO robots, NO EAs used in these tradings. Again: ONLY MANUAL Trading used in these operations. I hope it is now clear for these 2 points ( Real live account, manual trading) so we can pass on further discussions in next posts.
2 day history so around 200 trades in one hour.nice try but ı dont eat that
"fxblue" former "mt4i" was famous with data maniplation.show me "withdraw" and broker name then I will say sorry

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  • #34
  • Mar 13, 2016 3:59pm Mar 13, 2016 3:59pm
Quoting vasily
ı didnt check the trade history cus its not needed.but ı can tell you how it works from result % work on just demo it trade latency between demo and real trade are closed in second this is very probable demo live data feed arbitrage robot and dont work on live account time will tell and member @davit arent you good at trading and still beliving hollygrail thing
Sadly, i tend to agree with your view.

Really looks like an arbitrage/latency work, problem is of course even if done it in live accounts, it is usually prohibited and it always end with the account being closed and the trader banned.

But maybe we're wrong, time will tell.
  • #35
  • Mar 13, 2016 3:59pm Mar 13, 2016 3:59pm
May I ask you why you start with only 200 $. It reminds me a little bit to my situation that i traded my account with MM and rules and all these things and it grows so slow that i was so frustated that i decided to open a second account with small money and traded there all the trades which i never would done with my main account. Funny thing is the small account is now the bigger one

I hope we all here can share or discuss Ideas and learn all together from each other
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  • #36
  • Mar 13, 2016 4:28pm Mar 13, 2016 4:28pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} Well I only showed a way to make pips that have certain parameters.10EMA works on ALL tf's Haniam may use something else or just plain candles.Point is everyone has a trigger point.Line in the sand.Without this narrow parameters you will most likely be doing a guess work.Why guess? Try on demo take 100pips using TDI+10EMA and see your results. Regards
I'll try, thanks.
  • #37
  • Mar 13, 2016 4:31pm Mar 13, 2016 4:31pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} "entering or exiting a position being each time a different operation." Totally relate to that.When scalping you got to get in the zone where you just feel the price.Its hard explaining. Try throwing 10EMA on 1min 5min chart and use that as trigger.Below Bear above Bull. I use TDI as well Notice TDI dive south and price breaking 10EMA.Once in position monitor the trade because that 20pips could become 100+pips.If higher TF is turning south stay in longer reverse true. Fantastic Trading Haniam! {image}
Could you Post your TDI Indy?
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  • #38
  • Mar 13, 2016 5:07pm Mar 13, 2016 5:07pm
Quoting maximumguita
{quote} Could you Post your TDI Indy?
click on profile and files
its all there
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #39
  • Mar 13, 2016 5:14pm Mar 13, 2016 5:14pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} click on profile and files its all there
Thank you
(.)(.) think first ...
  • #40
  • Mar 13, 2016 6:44pm Mar 13, 2016 6:44pm
Congratulations on the successful trading. I have a couple of questions though:

Why did you open an account with $201.40 and not a round number like $200 or $250?
Why is there no commission on any of your trades in the commission column?
Which broker do you trade with?
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