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  • Mar 7, 2016 7:56pm Mar 7, 2016 7:56pm
ok thanks
  • #4,282
  • Mar 7, 2016 7:56pm Mar 7, 2016 7:56pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Every news release has its own agenda with the Central Banks in how to respond accordingly with the release. And this is one reason I trade the E/J and do so during the Asia sessions. The JPY - in its norm will respond to all its releases and most times in their favor. Some times they will respond on the time release and other times on the hour. When they did not respond at the 6:50 pm schedule release I knew then they would on the hour. So you just have to be careful during their release. This also includes with their "Tentative" releases....
Master, so in this moment you are not Trading? I Mean, the "Tentative" is going to release anytime in anysecond right? So maybe we have a buy setup but if that news go for short... so they can hit our SL fastly lol
  • #4,283
  • Mar 7, 2016 7:59pm Mar 7, 2016 7:59pm
Quoting Contrax
{quote} Master, so in this moment you are not Trading? I Mean, the "Tentative" is going to release anytime in anysecond right? So maybe we have a buy setup but if that news go for short... so they can hit our SL fastly lol
Come on Daniel - get it together. Have you not seen an Tentative news release?
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #4,284
  • Mar 7, 2016 8:03pm Mar 7, 2016 8:03pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} Come on Daniel - get it together. Have you not seen an Tentative news release?
For real Master... i think No, or i dont remember.

But i just realized that the "Tentative" is for CNY. (my bad)

We only focus and take care with the news. "EUR" "JPY" and "USD" right?
  • #4,285
  • Mar 7, 2016 8:09pm Mar 7, 2016 8:09pm
Quoting Contrax
{quote} For real Master... i think No, or i dont remember. But i just realized that the "Tentative" is for CNY. (my bad) We only focus and take care with the news. "EUR" "JPY" and "USD" right?
The word "Tentative" will appear on the pair that will have that news release and will show on the next update for the news releases. And the word "Tentative" replaces the time of the release. So you know way ahead of time on that release is Tentative and can happen at any time during that pairs session. And yes - EUR, JPY, and USD is only currencies you are concern with for new releases.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #4,286
  • Mar 7, 2016 8:12pm Mar 7, 2016 8:12pm
Quoting dove_alliance
{quote} The word "Tentative" will appear on the pair that will have that news release and will show on the next update for the news releases. And the word "Tentative" replaces the time of the release. So you know way ahead of time on that release is Tentative and can happen at any time during that pairs session. And yes - EUR, JPY, and USD is only currencies you are concern with for new releases.
Thank you Master.
  • #4,287
  • Mar 7, 2016 8:38pm Mar 7, 2016 8:38pm
Hey Dove (or should it be duif? haha?), your commitment to teaching everyone is highly commendable.

Mooi loop!! I used to live in your part of the world until I moved to Canada.

I trade futures exclusively, and have for the past 20 years. The first 10 years were really tough and as most people who try and make it in the markets usually do, I paid my "school fees" the first 10 years. I was determined to succeed in the markets and so eventually found the light!! Since working out what makes markets tick, I have reached my objectives each year for the past 7 years. I have been contemplating trading some Forex going forward as my algorithm trades any market, any instrument on any time or price frame so I was going to see how successful it performs in the forex market. I stumbled across ForexFactory and in turn this thread.

I have to say, I've read a fair amount of this thread and am not surprised that a lot of people are confused and are having trouble understanding a lot of what you are trying to teach. Your methodology has to be the most complex I've ever encountered in my entire 20 years of being involved in the markets. I'm sure you know it well Dove, but as a system for people trying to learn to trade any market, it is unnecessarily complex.
One of my greatest lessons and biggest revelations that allowed me to become successful in the markets was the simple adage KISS - keep it simple stupid. My techniques and tools that I use are extremely simple - I have developed 3 very easy to understand and interpret indicators that work on every financial instrument. If the large swathes of people trying to learn how to trade want to be successful, my suggestion to them would be to keep the trading as simple as possible. Its not the methodology that makes the successful trader, but the discipline and money management that is applied to any system/strategy that ensures success.

I'm not trying to take anything away from your incredible resolve to try and teach people how to trade, but your strategy/methodology is obviously very specific for you and won't be suitable for the vast majority of those people battling to work out the very challenging environ of the financial markets.

Best of luck to everyone, but please try and KISS.

TTD
  • #4,288
  • Mar 7, 2016 9:37pm Mar 7, 2016 9:37pm
Quoting TopTraderDoc
Hey Dove (or should it be duif? haha?), your commitment to teaching everyone is highly commendable. Mooi loop!! I used to live in your part of the world until I moved to Canada. I trade futures exclusively, and have for the past 20 years. The first 10 years were really tough and as most people who try and make it in the markets usually do, I paid my "school fees" the first 10 years. I was determined to succeed in the markets and so eventually found the light!! Since working out what makes markets tick, I have reached my objectives each year for...
I find it simple enough myself.
Life is too short to have anything but delusional notions about yourself.
  • #4,289
  • Mar 7, 2016 9:38pm Mar 7, 2016 9:38pm
Quoting TopTraderDoc
Hey Dove (or should it be duif? haha?), your commitment to teaching everyone is highly commendable. Mooi loop!! I used to live in your part of the world until I moved to Canada. I trade futures exclusively, and have for the past 20 years. The first 10 years were really tough and as most people who try and make it in the markets usually do, I paid my "school fees" the first 10 years. I was determined to succeed in the markets and so eventually found the light!! Since working out what makes markets tick, I have reached my objectives each year for...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and you are not the first to make such a statement. But there are traders very successful with this system and nothing more needs to be said. So I wish you luck with your system.
The Dove - Forex Trainer
  • #4,290
  • Mar 7, 2016 9:44pm Mar 7, 2016 9:44pm
Quoting TopTraderDoc
Hey Dove (or should it be duif? haha?), your commitment to teaching everyone is highly commendable. Mooi loop!! I used to live in your part of the world until I moved to Canada. I trade futures exclusively, and have for the past 20 years. The first 10 years were really tough and as most people who try and make it in the markets usually do, I paid my "school fees" the first 10 years. I was determined to succeed in the markets and so eventually found the light!! Since working out what makes markets tick, I have reached my objectives each...
Hahaha....
  • #4,291
  • Mar 7, 2016 9:49pm Mar 7, 2016 9:49pm
Quoting TopTraderDoc
Hey Dove (or should it be duif? haha?), your commitment to teaching everyone is highly commendable. Mooi loop!! I used to live in your part of the world until I moved to Canada. I trade futures exclusively, and have for the past 20 years. The first 10 years were really tough and as most people who try and make it in the markets usually do, I paid my "school fees" the first 10 years. I was determined to succeed in the markets and so eventually found the light!! Since working out what makes markets tick, I have reached my objectives each year for...
Isn't it weird? This member is just join FF Forum, and he has only one post to discourage us!
Sorry Sir! we have made up our mind to follow Dove! Good luck with your system!!
  • #4,292
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:23pm Mar 7, 2016 10:23pm
Quoting Contrax
{quote} Hahaha....
I believe all he is saying is that this system could be presented with much more clarity. Intentional, or not, the presentation is confusing. A lot of you are confused about this system and don't even realize it.

If 1, 2 or 2000 people sell/buy at the same price, place the same take profit and stop loss and leave the trade to conclusion they will get the same results, regardless of any other factors, real or imagined. If the rules are indeed "set in stone" and the author does desire to actually help people "see the future" they should be explained as such. If this happens, do this. If that happens, do that. Anything else is nothing but individual subjectivity. Can't trade in the moment if you are subjective.

Set in stone rules are very simple and easy to explain and understand. Subjective rules are not. I will take my place among the ignored now and the lapdogs can guffaw...............
  • #4,293
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:35pm Mar 7, 2016 10:35pm
Quoting whoareyou
{quote} I believe all he is saying is that this system could be presented with much more clarity. Intentional, or not, the presentation is confusing. A lot of you are confused about this system and don't even realize it. If 1, 2 or 2000 people sell/buy at the same price, place the same take profit and stop loss and leave the trade to conclusion they will get the same results, regardless of any other factors, real or imagined. If the rules are indeed "set in stone" and the author does desire to actually help people "see the future" they should be...
Just because you don't understand the system doesn't mean others don't. If you understand the rules then they are set in stone. It was stated that its a 6 month process to learn this system, I guess this post is you giving up......
Nobody can be told what The Matrix is. You'll have to see it yourself.
  • #4,294
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:43pm Mar 7, 2016 10:43pm
Thanks Dove for all the work you have done so far
  • #4,295
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:45pm Mar 7, 2016 10:45pm
I have never given upon anything and never will. Just saying that the so called rules,if they exist, could be simply stated, rather than being so ambiguous. I am doing ok without this system. Just fell into the hype.
  • #4,296
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:48pm Mar 7, 2016 10:48pm
Quoting shinny
{quote} Just because you don't understand the system doesn't mean others don't. If you understand the rules then they are set in stone. It was stated that its a 6 month process to learn this system, I guess this post is you giving up......
I would love to see everyone who believes they understand this system to write down their rules and post them to this forum all at the same time. That would possibly open a few eyes..
  • #4,297
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:49pm Mar 7, 2016 10:49pm
This method and way of teaching must be the most complex i've seen in my many years as a pro trader. This method is designed to confuse as many peole as possible lol. Newbies are lured in by the thousands because they think complexity equals profitability. My advice: do not waste your time unless there is a verified track record of results that prove that this method works. otherwise be prepared to waste many months/years and money. The method could work for the OP but does not mean it will work for you. Even then, i've not seen any long term record of results posted by the OP. Just excuses and more excuses. Most likely he is learning his own method as he goes. He is not obliged to post his results but ask yourself if you are following the right one. Do not be fooled by words. Forex is not meant to be easy and if you dont follow the right people you will fail for sure. Relying on indicators is a fast way to the slaughterhouse. I fell off my chair laughing when I read that his indicators are coded in a special way in order to know when price will go next.

See through the illusions. People here just post screenshots of positive trades and minimize as many of the losing trades as possible by hiding them.
  • #4,298
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:50pm Mar 7, 2016 10:50pm
btw something to add, for new comers, read about 2-3 times of each Dove's post and his reply to questions(and read the questions also).

When i said read 2-3 times, i mean read from first post to the latest. jot down notes(with your understanding) along the way. then read from first post to the latest again(refined your notes again).
and every single word in the sentence have to be understood.

even after that, there will be times when you dont understand certain things. its okie. cause there is a search function within this forum to search for the particular thing that you dont understand.

EDIT: There is 2 more traders post that you need to read too. and that is snfx and shinny. possible the best around here.
  • #4,299
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:50pm Mar 7, 2016 10:50pm
Quoting whoareyou
{quote} I believe all he is saying is that this system could be presented with much more clarity. Intentional, or not, the presentation is confusing. A lot of you are confused about this system and don't even realize it. If 1, 2 or 2000 people sell/buy at the same price, place the same take profit and stop loss and leave the trade to conclusion they will get the same results, regardless of any other factors, real or imagined. If the rules are indeed "set in stone" and the author does desire to actually help people "see the future" they should be...
People only rush and jump in to the market without understanding the things.... And yes u are right.. if someone buy and other sell.. So one of them is going to be in profits (like most of "traders" in the Forum that have Demo Accounts wannabe Gurus... that they cant trade live and they have high ego for nothing.... well w/e im not going to talk more about it....)

The problem one of the rules was trading Demo 6 months (or if you have profits in a row 40pips daily in a row and you feel comfortable you can jump in live account).... but people dont want to wait 6 months... people dont want to wait until they got Profitable Days in a row... So the first rule already has been broken... People study about 10 years for something... they finish the university.. and in the end.. they dont know where to work.... In here u are "investing/risking" 6 months.... But most of them broke this rule...

Anyway.. our Master was right about that not everybody is going to be profitable with the system.... and i know people that is trading Paradox System with big live account and making profits in a row.... Now imagine what we are going to do in 6 months.... GoodLuck my friend!
  • #4,300
  • Mar 7, 2016 10:59pm Mar 7, 2016 10:59pm
The trolls are back again.....
Nobody can be told what The Matrix is. You'll have to see it yourself.
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