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  • #641
  • Feb 21, 2016 9:41pm Feb 21, 2016 9:41pm
Quoting alphaomega
Shhh! Quiet! It's a public secret, but the 95% will never understand. It's amazing what can be done with "educational" propaganda and constant brainwashing. Just amazing! Here is a quick summary of the retail trading bible: Gospel for the ultimate "truth" number one : The trend is your friend? Follow the trend? Never go against the trend? Cut your losses fast and let your profits run? Always use stop loss? Never add to losing trades? Try to catch the big trends? Don't mess with the intraday time frames, because it's all just random noise? Don't...
Trusting your broker's advice on how to trade is like handing your taxi driver a case of vodka, letting him drink all of it, then handing him the keys to take you somewhere.
"Holy Grail" exists - accepting where is the first step.
  • #642
  • Feb 22, 2016 1:18am Feb 22, 2016 1:18am
Quoting metta87
{quote} and does this truth help us be profitable ?
No, it does not.
Having awakened and having removed the brainwashing only means that you would have just one foot out of the grave of the long gone.
  • #643
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:02am Feb 22, 2016 2:02am
Quoting alphaomega
Shhh! Quiet! It's a public secret, but the 95% will never understand. It's amazing what can be done with "educational" propaganda and constant brainwashing. Just amazing! Here is a quick summary of the retail trading bible: Gospel for the ultimate "truth" number one : The trend is your friend? Follow the trend? Never go against the trend? Cut your losses fast and let your profits run? Always use stop loss? Never add to losing trades? Try to catch the big trends? Don't mess with the intraday time frames, because it's all just random noise? Don't...

You sound like one of those commercials that are selling "truths they don't want you to know". I am just wondering if you are actually confused or genuinely trying to confuse new players. Not using stop losses and not going for high reward:risk is reckless. To me it looks like you are trying to spread false information on purpose. Because it's an adversarial game.
Price-Action Extremist
  • #644
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:25am Feb 22, 2016 2:25am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} No, it does not. Having awakened and having removed the brainwashing only means that you would have just one foot out of the grave of the long gone.
The Chonchy
  • #645
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:27am Feb 22, 2016 2:27am
Quoting VaBikePacker
{quote} Trusting your broker's advice on how to trade is like handing your taxi driver a case of vodka, letting him drink all of it, then handing him the keys to take you somewhere.
The Chonchy
  • #646
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:27am Feb 22, 2016 2:27am
Quoting bagman
{quote} You sound like one of those commercials that are selling "truths they don't want you to know". I am just wondering if you are actually confused or genuinely trying to confuse new players. Not using stop losses and not going for high reward:risk is reckless. To me it looks like you are trying to spread false information on purpose. Because it's an adversarial game.
Any system / methodolgy built on the tenets and axioms of "proper trading" as it is fed to the trading public will lose.
The above is also considered as a "tenet and axiom" and is therefore incorrect as well.
  • #647
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:28am Feb 22, 2016 2:28am
Quoting CrazyOz
The KiwiOz way. I know he is in the "commercial" section, but he is quite happy for people to learn & use his system. And for me to post these. After-all, He's my CuzzyBro' {image}
The Chonchy
  • #648
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:30am Feb 22, 2016 2:30am
...Nice hide out, you guys got here ah...enjoy it, nice thread....
The Chonchy
  • #649
  • Feb 22, 2016 2:38am Feb 22, 2016 2:38am
...Squiggles you let me alone in the other bar, drinking by my self........
The Chonchy
  • #650
  • Feb 22, 2016 3:50am Feb 22, 2016 3:50am
Quoting chonchy
...Squiggles you let me alone in the other bar, drinking by my self........
sorry got distracted by some fractals
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  • #651
  • Feb 22, 2016 3:52am Feb 22, 2016 3:52am
Quoting Mingary
{quote} No, it does not. Having awakened and having removed the brainwashing only means that you would have just one foot out of the grave of the long gone.
See this happens when people watch the matrix while smoking pot.
Price-Action Extremist
  • #652
  • Feb 22, 2016 4:35am Feb 22, 2016 4:35am
Quoting bagman
{quote} See this happens when people watch the matrix while smoking pot.
....Pot, where, when, who, at what time.....
The Chonchy
  • #653
  • Feb 22, 2016 4:35am Feb 22, 2016 4:35am
Quoting Squiggles
{quote} sorry got distracted by some fractals {image}
The Chonchy
  • #654
  • Feb 23, 2016 10:18am Feb 23, 2016 10:18am
Aaand down it goes again, the "thinking outside the box" thread.

Not possible to build a pool of techcical ideas without starting useless disussions about bla bla, right?
  • #655
  • Feb 23, 2016 6:43pm Feb 23, 2016 6:43pm
Three in one system. Take trade when candles exit cleanly form the box & below/above the Half-Trand indicator with Targets pre-drawn. If late to the party. Wait for bounce off 1st target, then trade from pre-drawn retracement bounce & exit from box.
All have been "stolen" from others & when combined.......
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  • #656
  • Feb 24, 2016 5:00am Feb 24, 2016 5:00am
Quoting Basill
Three in one system. Take trade when candles exit cleanly form the box & below/above the Half-Trand indicator with Targets pre-drawn. If late to the party. Wait for bounce off 1st target, then trade from pre-drawn retracement bounce & exit from box. All have been "stolen" from others & when combined....... {image}
So far so good
Actually make that... 4 in 1 system. I forgot the trend line break which is the heads up.
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  • #657
  • Edited 7:57pm Feb 25, 2016 5:47pm | Edited 7:57pm
Quoting newyear498
There must be some great ways to make high probability high profit trades in the forex market that go against the typical trader mindset.. ..find some weird patterns or completely insane ideas that just work and we can figure out why they work later.
the market is a two-way, 2D animal. not even 3D.
people complicate it to xD where x >> 2 because they are obsessed with predicting the unpredictable, raw market using >2D stuff.
for profits and losses are made in this 2D realm, we shouldn't leave it;
we have to keep our focus inside no matter how far beyond the box we'd love to be,
apart from trading costs, it's a zero sum game,
so the most effective out-of-the-2D-box approach has to be: find the loser whose reason to lose >> trading costs, and trade the opposite.

ain't easy to spot them realtime? so just go ahead and create your own, personal loser.
let it run on demo, watch it burn, trade the opposite... that's it

doing it for some time, can't imagine switching back to raw market trading.

hint: the only constant in markets is change - exploit this (inherent) property to build the (predictable) loser

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  • #658
  • Mar 29, 2016 8:42pm Mar 29, 2016 8:42pm
I recommend and advise anyone reading this STOP posting systems, or staring at your charts and making FALSE connections about how the whose it indicators told the whats it mobober to make the market go up.

I made a mistake a long time ago posting a bunch of CRAP on this forum.

This thread might be the ultimate CRAP of all the CRAP . Everything I ever said in the past or offered as "wisdom" is crap I was just a noob idiot posting CRAP

Thinking outside the box.. abstracting the markets.. worse thing anyone ever did was introduce this complexity..

The markets are simple, your trading should be simple

The only thing I ever got out of forex factory was meeting 2-3 successful people who I Skype with and they taught me how to actually be successful.

MY MESSAGE TO YOU IS FIND THOSE PEOPLE.. thats where your time and effort needs to go NOT staring at your chart making up CRAP


Maybe if I feel like it later I will start a new forum and offer something of actual value.. but quite honestly I don't see much in it for me and I just can't believe some of the crap I read let alone posted
  • #659
  • Last Post: Mar 30, 2016 7:33am Mar 30, 2016 7:33am
In response to the emails I've been receiving over the past years while I was away and just recently since my abrupt return.

I want to say that no I am not in objection of this thread, I am objecting the MAJORITY of threads.. I have seen tons of stupid stuff people suggest over the years.

Now that Im a 6 years older and have experience losing money and making money I can now see what I did wrong and what I do correctly trading... This is the reason for my previous post.
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