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  • First Post: Edited Feb 22, 2016 9:32pm Feb 21, 2016 3:12pm | Edited Feb 22, 2016 9:32pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
welcome!
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  • Feb 21, 2016 3:19pm Feb 21, 2016 3:19pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Looking at EUR/USD. Let's get back to basics. Nothing says basics like a clear, long-term line chart. It's so easy to get caught up in the candles, short-term news and action, talking head analysts etc. Let them talk....

I trust what I see on my charts. This is a visual game ultimately and your eyes can play tricks on you. You will see things with the line chart you would never see otherwise:


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So what does this weekly EUR/USD chart tell me? The trend that started in 2000 is still intact. So we look for long trades!
Wind at our backs, remember? Let the other look smart while we bank coin.

traderjoe
 
 
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  •  yonnie
  • Joined May 2008 | Status: Member | 1,156 Posts
tj,

to have such a long-term view from 2002 and only to be only long since then is not smart in my opinion.
look at price going down in 2014 from 1.4000 to 1.0500 in 2015 - you`re still long with a massive drawdown?
would rather be a swing trader.
 
 
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  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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tj, to have such a long-term view from 2002 and only to be only long since then is not smart in my opinion. look at price going down in 2014 from 1.4000 to 1.0500 in 2015 - you`re still long with a massive drawdown? would rather be a swing trader.
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Hi yonnie,

We are just getting started.
Never said we would have only traded long from 2002. Have a look at what I wrote again.

We don't look at the long-term view to find out what we would have done but what we will do right now!

The line charts give the long-term view and the main direction of trend. It doesn't mean we would only trade long always. But you want to trade with the wind at your back and right now the long-term trend is intact.

We will be taking short-term trades and taking short-term profit. But trading in the direction of the main trend just makes sense.

tradejoe
 
 
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  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Move long-term top down viewing:

The long-term view give us our bias. This is so important for our success!

Price on the EUR/USD has been moving side-ways for almost a year. You have to go back 15 years for find price moving side-ways for this long! This is a 15 year event in FX. Traders are not sure about the last trend which is down and are seriously considering switching to becoming long!

traderjoe
 
 
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  •  drjack1939
  • | Joined Oct 2011 | Status: Member | 37 Posts
​TJ,

I see that you are a new trader to FF.

Please give us some background information about yourself and your trading history.

This will help to get your thread up and running.

We all like to hear from people with innovative ideas to help us retail traders.

Regards,

Dr. Jack
 
 
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  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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​TJ, I see that you are a new trader to FF. Please give us some background information about yourself and your trading history. This will help to get your thread up and running. We all like to hear from people with innovative ideas to help us retail traders. Regards, Dr. Jack
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Dr. Jack, welcome sir!

Been at this game longer than I care to mention and do have some scars to show for it. Financial and emotional. But what doesn't knock you down makes you stronger. Went through many of the indicators that ended up only putting a big brick wall between me and what was going on in the markets. I took things so seriously and got nervous every time the market went against me... letting it turn me into a nervous wreak. I just shake my head looking back at this "younger" self. But at one point it lead to a calmer period of a few months of playing with charts on and off that it finally clicked. Funny, I took things less seriously and it all came together. I sincerely hope that many of you do not have to go through the same FX "hazing" that I had to go through. There is no reason for this if you have someone to guide you. I wish I had back in the day.

If there is one thing I wish I had in the beginning of this process it would have been to have a mentor tell me: If you find yourself complicating things, step back, take a deep breath and go back to basics.

traderjoe
 
 
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  •  yonnie
  • Joined May 2008 | Status: Member | 1,156 Posts
sorry tj, I jumped the gun - will try hard not to do that again
 
 
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  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
As I said, we are at a major turning point in the EUR/USD. The only other range larger than the only on the right is the left of the trade. Our bias is long!

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  •  insider999
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 61 Posts
Trader Joe,

Most traders have been there, done that.
Friggin indicators!!! It is NOT the way to go. It almost always look good until you do it for real money. Then it all goes south.

One thing that i thing is WAY overrated is money management. I am not saying you should be all in all the time. Of course not! But the main thing is to be on the right side of the market most of the time.

Anyway, keep coming. I am waiting for the juicy bits...

Insider
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2016 5:19pm Feb 21, 2016 5:19pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
It only takes a few good trades to grow an account. Some more truths on trading I have gathered over the years...

Don't over-leverage. Grow you account slowly & compound. Think about it, if you blow accounts by over-trading and over-leveraging those fund can't be used to compound, they are lost forever. This is a marathon not a sprint. Slow down.

Don't keep those stops too tight.... Let the trade breathe! Again this is part of the less stress approach I advocate. I see traders trying to squeeze profit out of every trade by keeping stops to tight. They think too short-term and again do not see the big picture. No need to have 20 pip stops that are likely to get triggered when you have so many trades to come.

traderjoe
 
 
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  •  insider999
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 61 Posts
Tight stops are hunted endlessly.
 
 
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  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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Trader Joe, Most traders have been there, done that. Friggin indicators!!! It is NOT the way to go. It almost always look good until you do it for real money. Then it all goes south. One thing that i thing is WAY overrated is money management. I am not saying you should be all in all the time. Of course not! But the main thing is to be on the right side of the market most of the time. Anyway, keep coming. I am waiting for the juicy bits... Insider
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Insider,

You sir get it. Indicators can waist your time heading a in direction that leads you nowhere, been there buddy.
Being on the right side of the market most of the time is what this thread is all about. That's why a drop down, uncluttered long-term view is so important to the health of our accounts. As I said, but the wind at your backs, why find the trend?

traderjoe
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2016 5:29pm Feb 21, 2016 5:29pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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Tight stops are hunted endlessly.
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Exactly. More cash for the fat cats.
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2016 5:33pm Feb 21, 2016 5:33pm
  •  Shemski
  • | Joined Jan 2015 | Status: Who, me? | 525 Posts
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As I said, we are at a major turning point in the EUR/USD. The only other range larger than the only on the right is the left of the trade. Our bias is long! {image}
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Hi Joe,

My bias is short. Just maybe not right now, but I'd much rather be short. I would prefer to wait for that 200EMA to be destroyed before I go long (longterm) EU. I'm also keeping my eye on that 1.18 to 1.24 resistance level. If price doesn't cleanly break it, there is no way I'd be taking long positions. I would much rather wait this one out.


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I'm not here to spoil anybody's party, nor am I here to doubt you. I'm just extremely cautious when it comes down to trend lines. Sorta like divergence, so easy to see things how you'd like to see them.

Feel free to slap my hand or teach me a lesson because I am the first in here who is eager and willing to learn!

Green pips Joe, green pips to you all
When trading: "Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water."
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2016 5:39pm Feb 21, 2016 5:39pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
Let's dig down a bit more, but just a bit.

Sometimes your eyes deceive you and keep from seeing the simple things... Let's get focused.

Price has pushed itself up through the 200 Day Moving average which the big boys use to determine the main trend. If price stays above it, price is bullish, if it stays below it, it is bearish. Simple right?

Price is starting to respect the 200 MA. Does this mean that price can't move lower for a while? No, But tells us that the bears are weakening and the bulls are starting to move in.

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  • Feb 21, 2016 5:46pm Feb 21, 2016 5:46pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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{quote} Hi Joe, My bias is short. Just maybe not right now, but I'd much rather be short. I would prefer to wait for that 200EMA to be destroyed before I go long (longterm) EU. I'm also keeping my eye on that 1.18 to 1.24 resistance level. If price doesn't cleanly break it, there is no way I'd be taking long positions. I would much rather wait this one out. {image} I'm not here to spoil anybody's party, nor am I here to doubt you. I'm just extremely cautious when it comes down to trend lines. Sorta like divergence, so easy to see things how you'd...
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Ah yes, the weeklies. The problem is by the time your levels are broken and the weekly MA is broken, the bulk of the move is already over and you end up missing it. Also price is likely to slow down because once it gets to 1.1800+ you are facing a massive amount of resistance level. That's why I stick to 200 MA. It goes you most of the info you need regarding the main trend. That's why most of the big boys use it all the time.

Always get in a bit early but not too early.

traderjoe
 
 
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  •  insider999
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 61 Posts
Excuse me but here come the indicators. What is so special about 200MA ? Why not 100 or 55 or 34 or 21? FIB numbers if you noticed.
 
 
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  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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Excuse me but here come the indicators. What is so special about 200MA ? Why not 100 or 55 or 34 or 21? FIB numbers if you noticed.
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Ah, I should have mentioned this. We do not use them as part of a cross-over system that lags. For example, "take a short when the 20 MA crosses the 200 MA", and so on. We use them as support and resistance and to establish bias of the trend. Make more sense?
 
 
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  • Feb 21, 2016 5:52pm Feb 21, 2016 5:52pm
  •  trader.joe
  • | Joined Feb 2016 | Status: Member | 28 Posts
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{quote} Ah, I should have mentioned this. We do not use them as part of a cross-over system that lags. For example, "take a short then the 20 MA crosses the 200 MA", and so on. We use them as support and resistance and to establish bias of the trend. Make more sense?
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200 MAs are special because the big boys use this number and have been for decades. It's become a known convention.
 
 
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