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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 5:32pm Feb 4, 2016 5:22pm | Edited 5:32pm
Learned from my mistake from before, I start to see the back bone of the market. Price moves to where it is supposed to go with support of orders/money flows. There is always buyers and sellers, there is a large sum of money flow into the market and facilitate the move by betting on the underlying direction of the market. Same for forex.

I would like to share my learnings here with fellow traders. I thought I understood the market few year ago, but I realized there was much more about it. I am still learning, but I start to see some lights.

I just attached my trade explorer from the very beginning since I opened this live account. I will implement my newly learned concepts of the market and share with you my findings.

Please share your thoughts!

LP
  • #2
  • Edited 7:05pm Feb 4, 2016 5:49pm | Edited 7:05pm
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To enlighten the topic a little bit. how many of you actually think the asia session is useful? How many of you actually avoid the asian session because its not going anywhere?

Have you thought about why it is like that? Is it serving any purpose?

LP
  • #3
  • Feb 5, 2016 5:22am Feb 5, 2016 5:22am
Quoting Low Profile
{image} To enlighten the topic a little bit. how many of you actually think the asia session is useful? How many of you actually avoid the asian session because its not going anywhere? Have you thought about why it is like that? Is it serving any purpose? LP
??? enlight me more, please
(.)(.) think first ...
  • #4
  • Feb 5, 2016 7:33am Feb 5, 2016 7:33am
Quoting Low Profile
{image} To enlighten the topic a little bit. how many of you actually think the asia session is useful? How many of you actually avoid the asian session because its not going anywhere? Have you thought about why it is like that? Is it serving any purpose? LP
hi your question mark area is supply area.. thats in the pic term ... distribution area
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #5
  • Feb 5, 2016 7:52am Feb 5, 2016 7:52am
Very Good Concept bro, pls what is actually the difference between Distribution and accumulation from your the pic you posted
  • #6
  • Feb 5, 2016 9:15am Feb 5, 2016 9:15am
accumulation give buy .. distribution will give sell
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #7
  • Feb 5, 2016 9:15am Feb 5, 2016 9:15am
but for this any indicator is there means its welcome
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #8
  • Feb 8, 2016 8:38am Feb 8, 2016 8:38am
3 things could happen during asian session, distribution, accumulation, or manipulation. Everything is given a term in the market, but back to the basic, the movement is only facilitated by LIQUIDITY. When the market finds where the largest liquidity that can drive the market in either direction, it will do just that.

try to observe asian seession, do not ignore it. Please.

LP
  • #9
  • Feb 8, 2016 8:54am Feb 8, 2016 8:54am
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Very likely manipulation, red line is the stop, market go side way (manipulation this time), it forced to down side to sweep all stop, create liquidity, now ready to take off.

LP
  • #10
  • Feb 8, 2016 9:11am Feb 8, 2016 9:11am
common reaction.losers love to listen other losers.more then love may be passion
  • #11
  • Feb 8, 2016 9:27am Feb 8, 2016 9:27am
Quoting ramzam
accumulation give buy .. distribution will give sell

Imho, not really ramzam. Accumulation is the period of consolidation; you may have to wait for manipulation before you decide to buy or sell. Distribution is the period of price flow after accumulation/manipulation, up or down.

KP
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #12
  • Feb 8, 2016 10:06am Feb 8, 2016 10:06am
Quoting KeenPips
{quote} Imho, not really ramzam. Accumulation is the period of consolidation; you may have to wait for manipulation before you decide to buy or sell. Distribution is the period of price flow after accumulation/manipulation, up or down. KP
oh this is eye opening point... have to take this on good note
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #13
  • Feb 8, 2016 10:26am Feb 8, 2016 10:26am
Quoting ramzam
{quote} oh this is eye opening point... have to take this on good note
Ramzam, you were correct basically but in the context of what Low Profile is conveying, regarding market makers' trading approach, accumulation is when market makers are piling up orders before their manipulative/'fakey' action or stop hunting; which is followed by the actual price flow/distribution in the direction of a long or a short. Green peeps to you.

KP
Do your homework, follow the footprints of smart money
  • #14
  • Feb 8, 2016 10:43am Feb 8, 2016 10:43am
As retail trader, i have not found a way to see through the order flows behind the price action. But if we look at it at a very simple approach like a baby.

we need to brush our teeth after we wake up, breakfast, dress up and go to work if you will.

dinner after work, watch some tv, then sleep.

we all follow a path, but we do all of those things at diff time everyday, unless someone is following a fixed schedule (less likely i assume, i could be wrong).

Now, back to big boys in the market, they buy into the market (imagine uptrend), they are human, they dont have unlimited capital, they need to take some profit. so the market cannot rise forever.

you can pick a pair, EUR/USD for example, divide the chart by days, for each day you place a horizontal line, you would see some times they take wednesday off for take profit, sometimes they take profit on friday. Just look at it like a Baby, dont make things complicated.

LP
  • #15
  • Feb 8, 2016 4:30pm Feb 8, 2016 4:30pm
After 4 days of rise, the pair decide to take profit on Friday.
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  • #16
  • Feb 9, 2016 10:43am Feb 9, 2016 10:43am
Every market is manipulated.

Get used to it.

Just focus on pure price action.

That's the only thing a trader can do.
  • #17
  • Feb 10, 2016 3:51am Feb 10, 2016 3:51am
Quoting Low Profile
As retail trader, i have not found a way to see through the order flows behind the price action. But if we look at it at a very simple approach like a baby. we need to brush our teeth after we wake up, breakfast, dress up and go to work if you will. dinner after work, watch some tv, then sleep. we all follow a path, but we do all of those things at diff time everyday, unless someone is following a fixed schedule (less likely i assume, i could be wrong). Now, back to big boys in the market, they buy into the market (imagine uptrend), they are human,...
its like understand but in real i didnt understand and the chart explanation also i didnt udnerstand
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #18
  • Mar 3, 2016 9:25am Mar 3, 2016 9:25am
You can see through the market by looking for current trend.
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  • #19
  • Mar 22, 2019 10:29am Mar 22, 2019 10:29am
Reopening this thread. Comments and discussions welcome!

LP
  • #20
  • Last Post: Apr 5, 2019 11:26pm Apr 5, 2019 11:26pm
GU 1hr ready to form a bottom to shoot up the price. 15 minutes shows upward consolidation.
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