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  • #6,641
  • Jan 13, 2016 10:24pm Jan 13, 2016 10:24pm
Quoting jameshong
{quote} EURUSD will be big down from soon and for a long time. Check Uranus effects and EURUSD weekly chart!

Hi James,

Do you mean Uranus at 16 degrees Aries? the last time that happened was January 1932... Or are you looking at aspects of the moon or other planets to Uranus?
  • #6,642
  • Jan 14, 2016 9:28am Jan 14, 2016 9:28am
Quoting jnevins
{quote} Hi James, Do you mean Uranus at 16 degrees Aries? the last time that happened was January 1932... Or are you looking at aspects of the moon or other planets to Uranus?
it will be opposite tr Uranus to Mars.

it means down big!

so from today, from now.. it is BETTER check to down EURUSD!
  • #6,643
  • Jan 14, 2016 9:34am Jan 14, 2016 9:34am
Quoting jameshong
{quote} it will be opposite tr Uranus to Mars. it means down big! so from today, from now.. it is BETTER check to down EURUSD!
sorry for my ignorance. What is "tr"?
TIA
  • #6,644
  • Jan 14, 2016 10:00am Jan 14, 2016 10:00am
Quoting jameshong
{quote} i have been using this data for a long time, 1999.01.01!
Ok, this is for the Euro correct.

But how about for Usd, Cad, Chf, Aus, Gbp??

Can you list these so I can research them

Thankyou my friennd
  • #6,645
  • Jan 14, 2016 10:01am Jan 14, 2016 10:01am
Quoting AstroStudent
{quote} sorry for my ignorance. What is "tr"? TIA

tr=transiting I think
  • #6,646
  • Jan 14, 2016 4:01pm Jan 14, 2016 4:01pm
Here is every instance of Mars opposite Uranus since before the Eur/Usd began, 18 years of daily data. The orb was set at 4 degrees. I like to see planetary aspects as energetic turning points... sometimes up, sometimes down...

1.) Notice the Aug 29, 1998, 1,300 uptrend that began at the beginning of the 4 deg orb of Mars opposite (Uranus. Mar-Ur 1.jpg)

2.) Aug-Sept 2000 just a continuation of trend. No change.

3. Aug-Sept, 2002 same thing, no change of trend, just continuation of sideways , choppy movement.

4. Aug 2004, Begin of uptrend at END of 4 deg opposition. 1,600 pip run in all....

5. Aug, 2006... Nothing to speak of.

6. Aug 2008... the mother of all downtrends.... drop from Euro all time high, 3,300 pips down through Nov. 2008

7. Jul-Aug 2010 At end of aspect, 610 pip downtrend, then uptrend resumed in mid September

8, July-Aug 2012, Nice 1,000 pip uptrend

9. Dec 2013, May 2014, then June-July 2014.... a triple opposition due to retrograde motion. Classic head and shoulders which saw the great 3,400 pip drop for about 1 year....

10. Which brings us to today.... Euro has been in sideways consolidation since transit began on December 4th and ending a month ago on December 15, 2015.... So far, benign action
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  • #6,647
  • Jan 15, 2016 10:01am Jan 15, 2016 10:01am
Wow, jnevins you have done a lot of good research work. What methods/people have you studied?
  • #6,648
  • Jan 15, 2016 10:03am Jan 15, 2016 10:03am
Has anyone thought to assign rulership to the respective currencies and using that as a model/context for aspects or transits? Sepharial gives country sign associations, and from that can derive the planets. I am interested in developing some ideas with other people. Message me if interested.
  • #6,649
  • Jan 15, 2016 10:10pm Jan 15, 2016 10:10pm
Quoting Fractalfield
Wow, jnevins you have done a lot of good research work. What methods/people have you studied?
For several years now, I have studied pretty much everything I could get my eyes on.... I like the evidence based approach and the realization that we are talking about repeatable cycles... The astro part is just another timer or clock that correlates to a repeatable cycle.. Correlation not causation...(which is where traders who don't understand much criticize astro study.... how can a planetary transit affect the Euro?... it's not that the planet affects price movement but that there is a regular cycle at work and the planets afford a long term way to time various cycles).

Still... study and lots of it seems to just scratch the surface which is why this forum is important if folks would contribute any truth that they know...we can hope to make small progress....For instance, rulership and currencies is a subject I know nothing about...Here is a handy chart from Wikipedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domicile_(astrology)
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  • #6,650
  • Jan 15, 2016 10:17pm Jan 15, 2016 10:17pm
Jame Hong... It occurred to me that the Dow Jones and other stock indexes around the world are having a pretty serious correction that began at the end of the 4 deg orb of the Mars/Uranus opposition aspect...
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  • #6,651
  • Jan 17, 2016 12:53am Jan 17, 2016 12:53am
Quoting jnevins
Jame Hong... It occurred to me that the Dow Jones and other stock indexes around the world are having a pretty serious correction that began at the end of the 4 deg orb of the Mars/Uranus opposition aspect... {image}
u doing great work!

i usually use 2degree ob!

that is useful for real trading for me with technical analyze!
  • #6,652
  • Jan 17, 2016 7:44pm Jan 17, 2016 7:44pm
Quoting wowzers
{quote} Ok, this is for the Euro correct. But how about for Usd, Cad, Chf, Aus, Gbp?? Can you list these so I can research them Thankyou my friennd
haha

u can find those..

i have some lists..


Good Luck!
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  • #6,653
  • Jan 18, 2016 12:28pm Jan 18, 2016 12:28pm
James Hong,

Here is another view of famous moments in the Uranus cycle and the Dow Jones Index... These charts are tracking the 84.02 year cycle as Uranus orbits the sun from a Heliocentric point of view... They are plotted in Timing Solution software. The time frame is the Dow monthly line chart and data is from 1885... there are many more I could post but that would get to be too much...

Sergey posted this information on the Timing Solution group today and I thought it was relevant to the discussion here.... Thanks for the birth chart you posted!

1. Predicting the Great depression and recovery 1929-1933

2. Entering WWII and its economic effect.

3. Dot Com crash of 1999- 2003.

4. The great recession of 2008-09... Note that Uranus' cycle strength was weaker than the actual reaction of the index, but was there nevertheless.

5. Present Day view... Downward pressure until July 1st, 2016 at the least...
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  • #6,654
  • Jan 18, 2016 11:44pm Jan 18, 2016 11:44pm
Another outlook for the indices

Sixer
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  • #6,655
  • Jan 19, 2016 12:05am Jan 19, 2016 12:05am
My outlook makes more sens because all recessions were indicated by a negative spread of the 10y-2y T-notes.
The actual value is (plus) +1.18

Sixer
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  • #6,656
  • Jan 19, 2016 2:13am Jan 19, 2016 2:13am
Quoting jnevins
James Hong, Here is another view of famous moments in the Uranus cycle and the Dow Jones Index... These charts are tracking the 84.02 year cycle as Uranus orbits the sun from a Heliocentric point of view... They are plotted in Timing Solution software. The time frame is the Dow monthly line chart and data is from 1885... there are many more I could post but that would get to be too much... Sergey posted this information on the Timing Solution group today and I thought it was relevant to the discussion here.... Thanks for the birth chart you posted!...
How do you trade it using your model?
  • #6,657
  • Jan 19, 2016 5:24am Jan 19, 2016 5:24am
Quoting jnevins
Here is every instance of Mars opposite Uranus since before the Eur/Usd began, 18 years of daily data. The orb was set at 4 degrees. I like to see planetary aspects as energetic turning points... sometimes up, sometimes down... 1.) Notice the Aug 29, 1998, 1,300 uptrend that began at the beginning of the 4 deg orb of Mars opposite (Uranus. Mar-Ur 1.jpg) 2.) Aug-Sept 2000 just a continuation of trend. No change. 3. Aug-Sept, 2002 same thing, no change of trend, just continuation of sideways , choppy movement. 4. Aug 2004, Begin of uptrend at END...
Trade what you see not what you think,..happy trading
  • #6,658
  • Jan 19, 2016 9:54am Jan 19, 2016 9:54am
Quoting MoreYummy
{quote} How do you trade it using your model?

I don't trade the Dow index... just EUR/USD and on much shorter time frames... James Hong threw out there the idea of Uranus so I looked into it to find out what I could. with a more than 84 year orbit around the sun, it is good to see the big picture on the big moves though... My hope is to get evidence based research posted by different contributors and keep this thread alive... Thanks Sixer for the charts and showing the idea of velocity differential between Mercury and Mars. How was the curve generated?
  • #6,659
  • Jan 19, 2016 10:03am Jan 19, 2016 10:03am
Quoting jnevins
{quote} I don't trade the Dow index... just EUR/USD and on much shorter time frames... James Hong threw out there the idea of Uranus so I looked into it to find out what I could. with a more than 84 year orbit around the sun, it is good to see the big picture on the big moves though... My hope is to get evidence based research posted by different contributors and keep this thread alive... Thanks Sixer for the charts and showing the idea of velocity differential between Mercury and Mars. How was the curve generated?
I see. So you trade eur/usd using planetory method? How do you like it?
  • #6,660
  • Jan 19, 2016 10:53am Jan 19, 2016 10:53am
Quoting MoreYummy
{quote} I see. So you trade eur/usd using planetory method? How do you like it?
The idea is the study of cycles... a planetary approach is one way to look at things. The trick is to find dominant cycles in the instrument you want to trade in the time frame you want to trade and to correlate that with repeatable phenomenon... my recent posts have been about the Vertex which is a cycle that repeats 3 times every 24 hours.... compare that to my last post on the Dow index and Uranus with a repeat cycle of 84 years....

Where most traders get tripped up is in the thought that somehow a particular planetary aspect CAUSES a particular price movement... that seems hard to believe... but I am coming from the point of view that it is not about causation only correlation... two very different ideas. Tying a planetary movement to a repeatable cycle in any financial instrument is only another kind of clock. You could argue that your alarm clock going off at 6:00 am causes you to start your day but that would be a pretty limited point of view. The break of dawn causes the rooster to crow?
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