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  • #81
  • Aug 20, 2006 8:29pm Aug 20, 2006 8:29pm
Mono,

I appreciate your response, and your absolutely right about the fixed stoploss issue. However, the "c" version had the same problems with a trailing stoploss which you seem to agree could be of use. Have you had any problems setting a trailing stoploss on this EA?

Thanks again.

Doug
  • #82
  • Aug 20, 2006 8:34pm Aug 20, 2006 8:34pm
Quoting dcraig
Mono,

I appreciate your response, and your absolutely right about the fixed stoploss issue. However, the "c" version had the same problems with a trailing stoploss which you seem to agree could be of use. Have you had any problems setting a trailing stoploss on this EA?

Thanks again.

Doug
I haven't used trailing stops on my tests, I like the trade to run its course and see where it takes me.
Mono
  • #83
  • Aug 20, 2006 9:34pm Aug 20, 2006 9:34pm
i have followed instructions previously stated. Everthing looks as it should but I am getting no trade signals on g/u. This happed friday and up to this point today. Any help is appreciated
  • #84
  • Aug 20, 2006 10:28pm Aug 20, 2006 10:28pm
Hello wackena or skyline,

Mono has put up a interesting thought. Maybe we should send a pending sellstop or buystop order that has 30x lot size and aim for 10PIP at the "stoploss" point of the normal order when the normal order was sent. Then kill it if the "normal" order reach takeprofit.

However I have problem to do the later part - kill the pending order when the original order took profit. Do you guys have any idea how to do that??

I do think Mono's idea is valid.

Thanks.
  • #85
  • Aug 20, 2006 10:58pm Aug 20, 2006 10:58pm
I start the firebird ea v1.0c and on the EURUSD i am getting bad hours I am at 9.55 MST and my MT4 chart says 3.55/ I do not get an error when I applied it to a USDJPY.

ANy idea's whati s causing this?

Doc
  • #86
  • Aug 20, 2006 11:08pm Aug 20, 2006 11:08pm
Quoting mono
Hi Guys

OK, before you say it, i'll say it. I MUST BE NUTS.

I have a task for for the people who have been testing firebird long term or those that have had a stoploss.

Go through your statement and only look at your losing trades and check out the charts, to see if at the time of stoploss, how much further did the price move.

Best way to explain is an example.

Below is one of my losing trades.

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If at SL, I had put in a buy trade for 3 full mini lots but target is 10 pips, would you recover your losses every time?

Maybe have a trailing stop put on it.

What are your thoughts?

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I've only been doing my testing long enough to incur 2 losses. However in both, had an order been placed in the the opposite direction (bouncing off the stop as support), it would have negated them both. Actually it would have made money on the EUR/USD because I was using your adjusted setttings from the ADR.
  • #87
  • Aug 20, 2006 11:43pm Aug 20, 2006 11:43pm
Does anyone knows what will be the correct time frame for this EA. Iīve found that one minute will be ok for it, but i want to be sure. tnx to all
Have a good day and a good trade!
  • #88
  • Aug 21, 2006 1:06am Aug 21, 2006 1:06am
Quoting Hagbard Celine
I've only been doing my testing long enough to incur 2 losses. However in both, had an order been placed in the the opposite direction (bouncing off the stop as support), it would have negated them both. Actually it would have made money on the EUR/USD because I was using your adjusted setttings from the ADR.
This would be great if it's a buy order say 10 pips in the opposing direction, thus reducing the risk of a calamity if the price just keeps dropping (9/11 or the like that could blow the account). However, wouldn't firebird place the order anyway through it's normal logic?
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  • #89
  • Aug 21, 2006 2:42am Aug 21, 2006 2:42am
Yes the concept is intruguing. But then the EA would have to keep track of the losing order to create the hedge...and what if the price goes the other way when the 30 lot order is filled?



Quoting Puppy
Hello wackena or skyline,

Mono has put up a interesting thought. Maybe we should send a pending sellstop or buystop order that has 30x lot size and aim for 10PIP at the "stoploss" point of the normal order when the normal order was sent. Then kill it if the "normal" order reach takeprofit.

However I have problem to do the later part - kill the pending order when the original order took profit. Do you guys have any idea how to do that??

I do think Mono's idea is valid.

Thanks.
  • #90
  • Aug 21, 2006 2:44am Aug 21, 2006 2:44am
MOst people are testing on the one minute chart at the moment.

Quoting jtacher
Does anyone knows what will be the correct time frame for this EA. Iīve found that one minute will be ok for it, but i want to be sure. tnx to all
  • #91
  • Aug 21, 2006 4:47am Aug 21, 2006 4:47am
I've noticed that Firebird v1.0b is only placing hedge orders on initial sells, but not on buys. I will look at code today to try to find out why.


Wackena
  • #92
  • Aug 21, 2006 5:06am Aug 21, 2006 5:06am
Quoting wackena
I've noticed that Firebird v1.0b is only placing hedge orders on initial sells, but not on buys. I will look at code today to try to find out why.
Wackena
One suggestion while your looking at the code. I think changing the 'string Name_Expert' to match the version number helps keep the results separate.

Thanks
  • #93
  • Aug 21, 2006 6:19am Aug 21, 2006 6:19am
Wouldn't it have to be 3 standard lots instead of mini lots for 10 pips to make up the difference?

Quoting mono
Hi Guys


OK, before you say it, i'll say it. I MUST BE NUTS.

I have a task for for the people who have been testing firebird long term or those that have had a stoploss.

Go through your statement and only look at your losing trades and check out the charts, to see if at the time of stoploss, how much further did the price move.

Best way to explain is an example.

Below is one of my losing trades.

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 512pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=679 border=0 x:str=""><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 42pt" width=56><COL style="WIDTH: 81pt" width=108><COL style="WIDTH: 26pt" width=35><COL style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32><COL style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49><COL style="WIDTH: 35pt" span=3 width=46><COL style="WIDTH: 81pt" width=108><COL style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46><COL style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50><COL style="WIDTH: 43pt" width=57><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 42pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt" width=56 height=17>Ticket</TD><TD class=xl27 style="WIDTH: 81pt" width=108>Open Time</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 26pt" width=35>Type</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32>Lots</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>Item</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>Price</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>S / L</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>T / P</TD><TD class=xl27 style="WIDTH: 81pt" width=108>Close Time</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>Price</TD><TD class=xl30 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50>Swap</TD><TD class=xl30 style="WIDTH: 43pt" width=57>Profit</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 42pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt" width=56 height=17 x:num="">1787896</TD><TD class=xl25>2006.07.31 06:30</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 26pt" width=35>sell</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32 x:num="">0.1</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>gbpusd</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.865">1.8650</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.895">1.8950</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.8620000000000001">1.8620</TD><TD class=xl25>2006.08.04 15:29</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.895">1.8950</TD><TD class=xl31 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50 x:num="3.16">$3.16</TD><TD class=xl31 style="WIDTH: 43pt" width=57 x:num="-300">-$300.00</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
If at SL, I had put in a buy trade for 3 full mini lots but target is 10 pips, would you recover your losses every time?

Maybe have a trailing stop put on it.

What are your thoughts?

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 512pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=679 border=0 x:str=""><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 42pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt" width=56 height=17>


</TD><TD class=xl27 style="WIDTH: 81pt" width=108>


</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 26pt" width=35>


</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32>


</TD><TD class=xl26 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>


</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>


</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>


</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>


</TD><TD class=xl27 style="WIDTH: 81pt" width=108>


</TD><TD class=xl28 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46>


</TD><TD class=xl30 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50>


</TD><TD class=xl30 style="WIDTH: 43pt" width=57>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 42pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt" width=56 height=17 x:num="">


</TD><TD class=xl25>


</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 26pt" width=35>


</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 24pt" width=32 x:num="">


</TD><TD class=xl24 style="WIDTH: 37pt" width=49>


</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.865">


</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.895">


</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.8620000000000001">


</TD><TD class=xl25>


</TD><TD class=xl29 style="WIDTH: 35pt" width=46 x:num="1.895">


</TD><TD class=xl31 style="WIDTH: 38pt" width=50 x:num="3.16">


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  • #94
  • Aug 21, 2006 8:06am Aug 21, 2006 8:06am
Hello friendīs,

iīve got a problem, till market opening i run this EA Version 1.0a in an Interbank FX Live account... he work good for 2 hours... since them i have a error popup when ever price is chanching...

I try the older version 63G also not working, the same....

Ever this stupid popup "excessive loss" comes when price is chanching...
See the logfie...

Anyone an idea to fix it ? THANK YOU !!

mr.trader
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  • #95
  • Aug 21, 2006 8:28am Aug 21, 2006 8:28am
Quoting mr.trader
Hello friendīs,

iīve got a problem, till market opening i run this EA Version 1.0a in an Interbank FX Live account... he work good for 2 hours... since them i have a error popup when ever price is chanching...

I try the older version 63G also not working, the same....

Ever this stupid popup "excessive loss" comes when price is chanching...
See the logfie...

Anyone an idea to fix it ? THANK YOU !!

mr.trader
Hi Mr.Trader
How much is actually your negative float balance ? Had you got a lot of loss in a row ?
That popup is written by EA in function LossCheck() when your loss is high so it alert you about that.
It's displayed when Last Account Equity (red from log file) less Actual Account Equity is more or equal to PipLoss (usually set to 500) * Lotsize (usually set to 0.1) , try to check this value to see if this condition is true.

hope this help you
  • #96
  • Aug 21, 2006 9:03am Aug 21, 2006 9:03am
well i am running version b and it seems like it will not hedge usd/chf orders.

others are working but not this pair. what gives?

anyone else have problems with it?

Thanks!
  • #97
  • Aug 21, 2006 9:05am Aug 21, 2006 9:05am
Quoting stricko108
I'm not sure if you can trade micro lots with either fxdd or ibfx, i might be wrong tho.
I noted a few questions about micro accounts and IBFX. I am trading live with IBFX using firebird. If you have a mini account and set the lot size to 0.1 then it will open $1000 positions. You can even use $100 positions if you prefer by setting the lot size to 0.01

I am still on the old 63G Live. Just started looking at the updated versions.

Wiz.
  • #98
  • Aug 21, 2006 9:18am Aug 21, 2006 9:18am
how are you doing trading live with firebird?

do you know if interbankfx does micro accounts?

Thanks!
  • #99
  • Aug 21, 2006 9:19am Aug 21, 2006 9:19am
if you have a mini account in interbankfx (say 300 bucks).. i can use 0.1 lots on the EA to open micro lots correct?

and with this i should not trade more than 3 pairs?
  • #100
  • Aug 21, 2006 9:20am Aug 21, 2006 9:20am
Yes wizard what kind of results have you been getting on your LIVE account?



Quoting The Wizard of Oz
I noted a few questions about micro accounts and IBFX. I am trading live with IBFX using firebird. If you have a mini account and set the lot size to 0.1 then it will open $1000 positions. You can even use $100 positions if you prefer by setting the lot size to 0.01

I am still on the old 63G Live. Just started looking at the updated versions.

Wiz.
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