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  • #61
  • Nov 29, 2015 8:38am Nov 29, 2015 8:38am
Quoting vasily
{quote} in earlier posts we dıscussed if this code is autonomous and you have said it is but cant be backtested. I said its not possible now you say, your code connects your servers to get data to work or gets directly what to do. then this code is not autonomous as I have said earlier while cant work without logging in your servers. so before you start selling your code pls give more detailed, true, reliable information for the possible buyers. or I or someone else can sink you here with your unreliable answers.
The EA get raw data from our servers then process them and the result is sell or buy direction and lot value .
I can not understand what you say about autonomous I never used autonomous in this Thread if your mean is, Automatic , FOR EXAMPLE if an EA take news data from a external server and use them for taking a position ,you say it is not Auto EA !!?
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  • #62
  • Nov 29, 2015 8:48am Nov 29, 2015 8:48am
Quoting omid_fx
{quote} the backtest is metatrader option when your source data isn't part of metatrader you can not have backtest as regular i have excel backtest that I optimized my system according that and i give the full EA to anyone that want buy this EA .
whay should I understand from above words?
  • #63
  • Nov 29, 2015 8:56am Nov 29, 2015 8:56am
Quoting vasily
{quote} whay should I understand from above words?
I think you should compliantly understand what i say with this sentence
The EA get raw data from our servers then process them and the result is sell or buy direction and lot value .

​But if you have more questions I clearly will answer you
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  • #64
  • Nov 29, 2015 9:07am Nov 29, 2015 9:07am
Quoting omid_fx
{quote} I think you should compliantly understand what i say with this sentence The EA get raw data from our servers then process them and the result is sell or buy direction and lot value . ​But if you have more questions I clearly will answer you
I will not argue, I understand what it does but you didnt explain it.I pick the words from your mouth
the code is not autonomous,it doesnt matter if it calculates or not,it gets data from your servers,so its a trade copier.that means it cant work without connecting servers + needs optimization. those are all possible and acceptable issues.but if I know while I am buying it.
$1K is not much for autonomous EA but absolutly too much for trade copier where it will not work when your servers down for this or that way where EA should connect every new hour.
you should be selling signals instead of EA my guıess
  • #65
  • Edited 10:59am Nov 29, 2015 10:30am | Edited 10:59am
Quoting vasily
{quote} I will not argue, I understand what it does but you didnt explain it.I pick the words from your mouth the code is not autonomous,it doesnt matter if it calculates or not,it gets data from your servers,so its a trade copier.that means it cant work without connecting servers + needs optimization. those are all possible and acceptable issues.but if I know while I am buying it. $1K is not much for autonomous EA but absolutly too much for trade copier where it will not work when your servers down for this or that way where EA should connect every...
I think you have problem , I clearly answered your questions and you always say your misunderstanding viewpoints .
I am not selling signals my EA do not copy any signals , I get only raw data from servers, and if i am developer i know what should i do,
that i do not have any problem with my servers .
If you like autonomous EA with nice backtests you can find many of them in the market with very very nice backtest buy them .
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  • #66
  • Nov 29, 2015 11:02am Nov 29, 2015 11:02am
Quoting omid_fx
{quote} I think you have problem , I clearly answered your questions and you always say your misunderstanding viewpoints . I am not selling signals my EA do not copy any signals , I get only raw data from servers, and if i am developer i can know what should i do, that i do not have any problem with my servers . If you like autonomous EA with nice backtests you can find many of them in the market with very very nice backtest buy them .
if code connecting a server to grab data then its not EA, its trade copier. doing 2*2=4 on EA side doesnt makes it autonomous. instead it becomes trade copier if it should connect servers.I am not here to say good/bad.just trying to understand what you are selling correctly.
I dont know
who you are
where you are
I have no contact with you
and you want me/others to trust you buying a code that SHOULD WORK WITH YOUR SERVER for $1K
this too much risk for me. others may agree/not agree
I have done here/have a nice day
  • #67
  • Nov 29, 2015 11:09am Nov 29, 2015 11:09am
Quoting vasily
{quote} if code connecting a server to grab data then its not EA, its trade copier. doing 2*2=4 on EA side doesnt makes it autonomous. instead it becomes trade copier if it should connect servers.I am not here to say good/bad.just trying to understand what you are selling correctly. I dont know who you are where you are I have no contact with you and you want me/others to trust you buying a code that SHOULD WORK WITH YOUR SERVER for $1K this too much risk for me. others may agree/not agree I have done here/have a nice day...

It is a new definition of EAs maybe you do not know anything about EAs.
Good Luck
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  • #68
  • Nov 29, 2015 6:19pm Nov 29, 2015 6:19pm
Quoting omid_fx
{quote} It is a new definition of EAs maybe you do not know anything about EAs. Good Luck
Perhaps, if the "technology" behind this EA needs connect to vendor's server to get certain market analysis data that normal broker's feed cannot offer, I dont see anything bad in this particular thing.

However, what if the vendor stops or losing this feed one day and then all clients who bought the EA might have none working product. So I would love to hear vendor's feedback what type of plan B / securities the clients getting against this potential issue?
  • #69
  • Edited 8:22pm Nov 29, 2015 6:37pm | Edited 8:22pm
I agree totally. It is not a signal service/trade copier as the EA takes the data from the custom server and performs its calculations within the mt4 (from what I gather) before placing trades.

however what protection does the customer have if the server gets disconnected / discontinued? some decent commerclal EA's eg forex flex are similar in that they connect to a vendor's data source periodically, but in that case you feel more protected as it is a 'proper' commercial, public , licensed EA, rather than in this case which is more of a private commercial venture.

my $0.02


Quoting rommark
{quote} Perhaps, if the "technology" behind this EA needs connect to vendor's server to get certain market analysis data that normal broker's feed cannot offer, I dont see anything bad in this particular thing. However, what if the vendor stops or losing this feed one day and then all clients who bought the EA might have none working product. So I would love to hear vendor's feedback what type of plan B / securities the clients getting against this potential issue?
  • #70
  • Nov 29, 2015 7:25pm Nov 29, 2015 7:25pm
Quoting rommark
{quote} Perhaps, if the "technology" behind this EA needs connect to vendor's server to get certain market analysis data that normal broker's feed cannot offer, I dont see anything bad in this particular thing. However, what if the vendor stops or losing this feed one day and then all clients who bought the EA might have none working product. So I would love to hear vendor's feedback what type of plan B / securities the clients getting against this potential issue?
that's the thing, if he disappears then the EA becomes useless.
  • #71
  • Nov 29, 2015 7:55pm Nov 29, 2015 7:55pm
Quoting rommark
{quote} Perhaps, if the "technology" behind this EA needs connect to vendor's server to get certain market analysis data that normal broker's feed cannot offer, I dont see anything bad in this particular thing. However, what if the vendor stops or losing this feed one day and then all clients who bought the EA might have none working product. So I would love to hear vendor's feedback what type of plan B / securities the clients getting against this potential issue?
We have Plane ,B,C and much more for client securities .
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  • #72
  • Nov 29, 2015 7:58pm Nov 29, 2015 7:58pm
Quoting blamshakk
I agree totally. is is not a signal service/trade copier as the EA takes the data from the custom server and performs its calculations within the mt4 (from what I gather) before placing trades. however what protection does the customer have if the server gets disconnected / discontinued? some decent commerclal EA's eg forex flex are similar in that they connect to a vendor's data source perdiocially, but in that case you feel more protected as it is a 'proper' commercial, public , licensed EA, rather than in this case which is more of a private...
We thought about These things before selling this EA , the data that we used is not special data that only one source can give to us.
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  • #73
  • Nov 30, 2015 6:19pm Nov 30, 2015 6:19pm
ForexEasy.club trading magazine has put today this EA on a live benchmark test in its own server/broker/terminal so everyone can compare and educate:

http://forexeasy.club/blog/2015/12/01/3274/
  • #74
  • Edited 7:42pm Dec 14, 2015 5:19pm | Edited 7:42pm
Compare OmidFX myfxbook and ForexEasy 3rd party myfxbook here:
http://forexeasy.club/blog/2015/12/14/3274/

So far not bad:

  1. Gain: +15.03%
  2. Abs. Gain: +15.03%
  3. Daily: 1.01%
  4. Monthly: 15.03%
  5. Drawdown: 11.98%

After it has adapted to the trend its pipping, lets hope it continue this way!

Forward test by forexeasy.club

  • #75
  • Dec 14, 2015 9:19pm Dec 14, 2015 9:19pm
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  • #76
  • Dec 15, 2015 12:08am Dec 15, 2015 12:08am
On real account its only 7€ since july and trades XAU. Demo trade EU. Impossible to compare.
  • #77
  • Dec 15, 2015 12:30am Dec 15, 2015 12:30am
Quoting Elovv
On real account its only 7 since july and trades XAU. Demo trade EU. Impossible to compare.
Read post #27 . EURUSD testing in real account finished ,we are testing new currency (XAU) in real .
Official EURUSD account
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  • #78
  • Dec 15, 2015 4:14am Dec 15, 2015 4:14am

ForexEasy forward test account already up to 18% gain with max DD of 11%:

[Review Here]

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  • #79
  • Dec 17, 2015 2:04am Dec 17, 2015 2:04am
Quoting rommark
ForexEasy forward test account already up to 18% gain with max DD of 11%: [Review Here] {image} {image}
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You mean gain of 12.9% and DD of 31%
  • #80
  • Dec 17, 2015 2:10am Dec 17, 2015 2:10am
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The Live Account has been running since July 2015, and its only made 8.41% Gain with 35.60% DD
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