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  • #41
  • Sep 23, 2015 6:52pm Sep 23, 2015 6:52pm
Quoting alvinbone
Why many brokers don't have PAMM? PAMM model is a good forex business for who don't have time to trade or trust in their trading skills. PAMM is a provided-service or a broker can build it personally?
I think they can creat it personally, but I don't know for sure
  • #42
  • Nov 7, 2015 6:50pm Nov 7, 2015 6:50pm
So, for those of you who invested in Alpari or some other broker several years ago, what is your opinion of them now? I'm not asking for specific rates of return since then, but any general good or bad feelings about the entire system now that some time has past?
  • #43
  • Nov 8, 2015 10:02am Nov 8, 2015 10:02am
Quoting DaveVT
So, for those of you who invested in Alpari or some other broker several years ago, what is your opinion of them now? I'm not asking for specific rates of return since then, but any general good or bad feelings about the entire system now that some time has past?
The hardest part of investing in a PAMM trader is finding a good one with a long track record and small draw downs.
In all the years i have been trading i have only seen 1 or 2 where i would invest my money in if this was something i was looking for.
  • #44
  • Nov 8, 2015 11:00am Nov 8, 2015 11:00am
Quoting Dkam
{quote} The hardest part of investing in a PAMM trader is finding a good one with a long track record and small draw downs. In all the years i have been trading i have only seen 1 or 2 where i would invest my money in if this was something i was looking for.
What is a "long" track record? A year? 5 years? I've seen very consistent traders trading in the 6-9 month range I've had my eye on, but is this too small of a sample?
  • #45
  • Nov 8, 2015 2:23pm Nov 8, 2015 2:23pm
I look for a combination of a long but also a save track record.
The higher the draw down the longer i want the track record to be.

A trader with a 1 year track record with only around 5% is much more safe as a 3 year track record with a 50% draw down.
I would never accept anything higher than 15% drawn down, and also would expect the average monthly return to be higher than the draw down.

If you want you can PM the traders you are interested in so i can give you my opinion.
I am also willing to share the traders i think might be interesting but only via PM.
  • #46
  • Nov 8, 2015 2:52pm Nov 8, 2015 2:52pm
Quoting Dkam
I would never accept anything higher than 15% drawn down
I often see this kind of thinking. There is another way to see it: If you absolutely want an account to have less than 15% drawdown, it means you have 85% too much capital on it. Those 85% could be invested somewhere else. What is the use to have them here if they have to never be used ?

As long as an experienced trader manages to never blow up the account, why not have up to a 99,99% drawdown ?
  • #47
  • Nov 8, 2015 3:02pm Nov 8, 2015 3:02pm
Quoting Mevo
{quote} I often see this kind of thinking. There is another way to see it: If you absolutely want an account to have less than 15% drawdown, it means you have 85% too much capital on it. Those 85% could be invested somewhere else. What is the use to have them here if they have to never be used ? As long as an experienced trader manages to never blow up the account, why not have up to a 99,99% drawdown ?
good point have a nice day sir please
focus while relaxed to see better
  • #48
  • Nov 8, 2015 3:47pm Nov 8, 2015 3:47pm
Quoting Mevo
{quote} I often see this kind of thinking. There is another way to see it: If you absolutely want an account to have less than 15% drawdown, it means you have 85% too much capital on it. Those 85% could be invested somewhere else. What is the use to have them here if they have to never be used ? As long as an experienced trader manages to never blow up the account, why not have up to a 99,99% drawdown ?
I do know a thing or 2 about risk management, and I do see both sides, but I do agree with your concept more. Don't invest only in 1 stock, and don't invest in only stocks. Also, don't invest in only 1 FX trader. The point is, diversify, so I'm thinking of spreading my pot among 10 or more traders, all with different techniques. That way, if 1 loses all of my money, I'm only down 10%. I guess if you're only looking to risk 15%, then maybe spread it around 7-8 traders?Dkam, thanks, and I'll PM you within a couple days.
  • #49
  • Edited 4:24pm Nov 8, 2015 4:00pm | Edited 4:24pm
Show me 1 track record with such a DD which recovered?
Without martingale trading of course.
2-3% ROI each month is great if you can get this consistently.

It depends on a lot of factors, if you can show me such a system with large draw downs and managed to recover time after time without martingale please show me.

I never seen one in over 6 years.
So the odds of 1 firm losing all your money with a long and good track record is much more unlikely than 10 traders who experienced a draw down of 80-90%, at least in the long term.
If you are looking for some fast money, invest for a few months and expect an astronomical return, then you are just gambling.

Not one long term or professional investor will work this way.
  • #50
  • Nov 9, 2015 1:23am Nov 9, 2015 1:23am
Quoting MioForex
PAMM ACCOUNT (Percent Asset Management Module ) is a multi account that consists of several investor accounts managed by a manager of a Pamm account. The main goal of this account is a proportionate distribution of losses and gains between all accounts. The broker is also a warrantor for distribution of gains between a manager and investors at the End of the trading interval. One of the Russian brokers provided this service. He DEVELOPED THE SERVICE WHERE A SUCCESSFUL MANAGER DOESN'T NEED TO LOOK FOR INVESTERS HIMSELF ANYMORE. Rather, THE BROKER...
Yeah stay way from Russian they're all a Ponzi scheme. Instead you can try Hotforex or from FXpro they have similar features.
Good luck
  • #51
  • Nov 9, 2015 8:57am Nov 9, 2015 8:57am
you may open any rating of fx broker and sort it by pamm accounts. There also you may read reviews
  • #52
  • Nov 11, 2015 10:43am Nov 11, 2015 10:43am
Quoting leebsurag
{quote} Instead you can try Hotforex or from FXpro they have similar features. Good luck
I'm not seeing a US option when selecting a country. Any other good PAMM companies out there?
  • #53
  • Nov 18, 2015 12:53am Nov 18, 2015 12:53am
Quoting DaveVT
{quote} I'm not seeing a US option when selecting a country. Any other good PAMM companies out there?
Yeah they don't accept US and Canadian residents as many other brokers.
Guess it'll be hard for you to find PAMM which are US regulated..
  • #54
  • Nov 18, 2015 9:37am Nov 18, 2015 9:37am
Quoting leebsurag
{quote} Yeah they don't accept US and Canadian residents as many other brokers. Guess it'll be hard for you to find PAMM which are US regulated..
I don't understand why they don't have this option. I can't even find a similar feature. Who are they to tell me where I can and cannot invest?
  • #55
  • Jan 11, 2016 5:12am Jan 11, 2016 5:12am
I work at USGFX and we offer a PAMM
  • #56
  • Mar 5, 2016 9:15pm Mar 5, 2016 9:15pm
After much research, I am now investing in the below Instaforex PAMM, and finds this to be with very low Drawdown. and steady profits.
https://www.instaforex.com/forex_mon...5#/investments
https://freshnews.top
  • #57
  • Mar 6, 2016 2:48am Mar 6, 2016 2:48am
Quoting ff34
After much research, I am now investing in the below Instaforex PAMM, and finds this to be with very low Drawdown. and steady profits. https://www.instaforex.com/forex_mon...5#/investments
Promoting your own pamm?
  • #58
  • Mar 6, 2016 5:54am Mar 6, 2016 5:54am
Alpari is the only one that I tried, both as a manager and investor. It works very well BUT the broker has recently moved offshore so I don't trust them anymore!!
  • #59
  • Mar 6, 2016 4:53pm Mar 6, 2016 4:53pm
In accentforex cute PAMM service. And the confidence that trader is not caused. I must say that I am a trader and investor.
I can give the link: http://accentforex.com/investments/pamm-rating/
Good work to all!
  • #60
  • Dec 10, 2016 7:24am Dec 10, 2016 7:24am
Minimum investment 1$!!!!!!

https://www.instaforex.com/pt/forex_...4#/investments
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