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  • #1
  • First Post: Aug 2, 2015 2:46am Aug 2, 2015 2:46am
Hi, All

Instead of fight for nothing, why not sell something here.
Before selling something, both you are the sellers or buyers you all at least want to know what kind of market and behavior and orientation they are likely.

So,Lets start to know some of it.

#1 BIG ISSUE

IF, any of forex service offered.
What kinds of service do you really like and what price the best deal you want to pay?
Forex service options:

  1. Forex signal : buy-sell with sl and tp level and time based limitation
  2. The best price are?....
  3. Forex personal managed account/private fund: managed some amount of others money.
  4. The best price are? Or the share are?
  5. Forex trading copy: offered the winning trading copy for followers
  6. Estimated best price for you?
  7. Forex Education/training form A-Z package. Learning and practice
  8. The best package you want to pay?
  9. Forex system/Methods that highly profitable.
  10. The best deal for it?
  11. Forex profitable EA ?
  12. How much is this?
  13. Others services that might very specific?
  14. How much to pay?

What conditions(term & condition) that suit your satisfaction.
What motive behind the product/service offered?
Anyone dare to share this common issues?

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  • #2
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:00am Aug 2, 2015 3:00am
Good Idea ​
Reliable/Stable/Profitable/Signals.
  • #3
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:12am Aug 2, 2015 3:12am
I sell myself stat arb courses for beginners and intermediate traders mostly.

In my statistical arbitrage courses, the content is a EA to take positions and manage the trade until the position be closed. Some VBA and R codes to find securites which are cointegrated and backtesting to find profitable stat arb strategies.

The most important in my courses, it is not to understand all the mathematical details behind it but understand the principles and the hypothesis on which a statistical arbitrage strategy is built on.

Of course, my courses are going beyond the basics of it, but more broadly speaking about algorithmic trading before focusing on statistical arbitrage in particular.

Concerning the price, it is a matter of point of view. The more experienced a trader is, the more pricy the services would be. But anyway time is valuable for everyone, and a good price is for both the buyer and the seller. Otherwise, someone would fell ripped off...
  • #4
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:18am Aug 2, 2015 3:18am
While we could discuss about big issue mentioned above for long time...and its open discussion.

we will move to next issue:
i would not play gimmick or use any of marketing tools/trick, just straight forward to what my point is...

#2 MY GAME

I want to selling system/method that profitable (based on my personalities)....and really no magic there.
This is would be believing is seeing game....and totally forget about seeing is believing.

If you need to see first than forget about the game....there will be a lot of energy wasted. Its totally about join the game or leave it.

If you are interested and want to follow my game...here is the information:

#Pool members:

My aim is to receive 10.000 USD nett (not more and not less), and it only could happen when one or more condition happen...
a. There are one big boy/big girl that want to pay for that amount.
b. There are 100 people that want to pay for 100 buck each.
c. There are 1000 people that want to pay 10 buck each.

If there are no one interested or the pool not meet with the numbers, my game is over before started. The candidate of pool members based first in first listed if over subscribe happen.

The payment of all pool members will be make at the same date and scheduled after the pool members meet and the system offered will be send to each pool members and open at the same time as well in pdf format with explanation needed.

If, let say the 100 people candidates of pool members agree and at the time scheduled let say only 50% real payment come. The game is over before started and the payment come will be send back(if any cost will be your risk).
So, Gently committed is highly recommended. Or others way could made if more interest to replace the candidate cancelation.

Any candidate could cancel anytime until the date of payment scheduled

The time limitation of the quotation is only 30 days. Starting today.
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  • #5
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:27am Aug 2, 2015 3:27am
Quoting ConfluenceFX
Good Idea ​
thanks, will see more idea would come.
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  • #6
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:29am Aug 2, 2015 3:29am
Quoting TheArbitrage
I sell myself stat arb courses for beginners and intermediate traders mostly. In my statistical arbitrage courses, the content is a EA to take positions and manage the trade until the position be closed. Some VBA and R codes to find securites which are cointegrated and backtesting to find profitable stat arb strategies. The most important in my courses, it is not to understand all the mathematical details behind it but understand the principles and the hypothesis on which a statistical arbitrage strategy is built on. Of course, my courses are going...
thanks for your sharing as a sellers view...really appreciate that.
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  • #7
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:31am Aug 2, 2015 3:31am
Quoting sam30
While we could discuss about big issue mentioned above for long time...and its open discussion. we will move to next issue: i would not play gimmick or use any of marketing tools/trick, just straight forward to what my point is... #2 MY GAME I want to selling system/method that profitable (based on my personalities)....and really no magic there. This is would be believing is seeing game....and totally forget about seeing is believing. If you need to see first than forget about the game....there will be a lot of energy wasted. Its totally about join...
Assuming the goal meet:

There are will be at least 2 and maximum 3 day to set up the system to be yours. Remembers that this system might be different and not suit with your trading style. Time to transform will be extend if needed. The transformation will be made at the weekend after the payment from the pool is made and complete and the system has already send to the pool members.

The pool buyers must decide if this will be exclusive for them or open to public and the majority pool member decision is the winners. If there are 50:50 condition then my 1 vote is apply and must execute.
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  • #8
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:31am Aug 2, 2015 3:31am
Waiting to see more updates. Looking Interesting though. I would surely look to offer mentorship for free for first month and then I surely would charge If client is satisfied and that would be a fair deal.
  • #9
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:33am Aug 2, 2015 3:33am
What the pool money for?

  1. For trade and open information for pool members only.
  2. To pay back to pool members regulary for their action to buy the system with special condition.

*To ilustrated this condition. Let say there is 100 pool members with 100 USD. There will be send back 100 USD each for 5 pool members first then the rest must wait their turn. Its will made weekly. The pay back based on first in first buy join list.
** will be info in detail later.

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  • #10
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:39am Aug 2, 2015 3:39am
Short info about the system:
It is for day trading only. Close at weekend.
Time Frame 15 minutes only, MT4 platform, no need MTF analysis. just straight and stick on it.
Indicators needed : back bone indicator 5 indicator with 4 support indicators.
Will be like a signal for trade, weak, medium, strong signal or adding more the trade.
Will be always SL level recommendation and TP for every trade.
Target daily @ minimum 40 pips/net/pair with risk 5-10% recommended.

How to threatening the system:
There are several way of trading that all be covered the system.

  1. Trend follow is the must to trade and how to identify and confident on it.
  2. Counter trade from the current trend and how to winning on it.
  3. How to identify ranging market by define the base zone, bull zone and bear zone in easy way.

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  • #11
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:45am Aug 2, 2015 3:45am
So, for my #2 issue....the rest will be the community to make the game of pool members happen or not. some question might be come to me, sooner or later.

now we could back to discuss the big issue#1 again.
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  • #12
  • Aug 2, 2015 3:47am Aug 2, 2015 3:47am
Quoting aman4forex
Waiting to see more updates. Looking Interesting though. I would surely look to offer mentorship for free for first month and then I surely would charge If client is satisfied and that would be a fair deal.
yes, i see your point of view. i just implemented my idea...
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  • #13
  • Aug 2, 2015 6:36am Aug 2, 2015 6:36am
For more specific question or anything about joining the pool, please send email to: [email protected]

otherwise you could share the idea here about both issue #1 or #2. its all related

Thanks a lot.
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  • #14
  • Aug 2, 2015 8:49am Aug 2, 2015 8:49am
If you are have and very familiar with this issue in your daily trading:

Why some "right" trades we trade become or look like they will reverse and only got a little of total moves and why some "wrong" trades we took look like they will come back soon and we are waiting till the patience drop?

You really need one solid system. And think about this:
you have at least 100 people behind you and have the fully right to asking the consequence of your action. Yes, you need to pay that at the first , a sign that you are really serious about that

Think that while you learn something new and worth your initial investment for a once in life will be back to you...

Or you interesting with the this new idea swimming in my mind.

I have an old trick but true as a seller: if you want interested buyers or new costumers don"t ever and never reduce the price because its useless, add the content or benefits .

So, If you really interest with the pool members idea, for how % of your initial investment want to share as a return of investment? and its should be and much more realistic.

The interesting idea about the pool members is you are still the candidate and it would depend for others. why not share the idea that suit your satisfaction?

Thanks you and see you for new beginning of the week and monthly trading.

regards
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  • #15
  • Aug 2, 2015 2:02pm Aug 2, 2015 2:02pm
That's a brilliant Idea.
Reason for that one you If you have a bunch of traders who have enough knowledge to guide you with the same view if they agree, Secondly it will save much more time in looking for what works or what does and I think psychologically It will help me making decisions. For me, it always about decision making and bundle of unsuccessful years have left behind and I am not concerned now whether they went right or wrong because they work for me in the long run.
  • #16
  • Aug 2, 2015 2:05pm Aug 2, 2015 2:05pm
Quoting sam30
Short info about the system: It is for day trading only. Close at weekend. Time Frame 15 minutes only, MT4 platform, no need MTF analysis. just straight and stick on it. Indicators needed : back bone indicator 5 indicator with 4 support indicators. Will be like a signal for trade, weak, medium, strong signal or adding more the trade. Will be always SL level recommendation and TP for every trade. Target daily @ minimum 40 pips/net/pair with risk 5-10% recommended. How to threatening the system: There are several way of trading that all be covered...
Sorry for interruption, Do you think risking 5-10% on a single trade for a 40 pips profit is a nice idea. Has to be a strong leveraged trades to get smooth return and reward should be at least 10-20% Even if you succeed half of what we trade.
  • #17
  • Aug 2, 2015 7:54pm Aug 2, 2015 7:54pm
Quoting aman4forex
That's a brilliant Idea. Reason for that one you If you have a bunch of traders who have enough knowledge to guide you with the same view if they agree, Secondly it will save much more time in looking for what works or what does and I think psychologically It will help me making decisions. For me, it always about decision making and bundle of unsuccessful years have left behind and I am not concerned now whether they went right or wrong because they work for me in the long run.
Thanks for your brilliant comment as well.

yours view is very logic as you are a true trader.
Let me explain a bit for what i see a thing about forex trading. when we all as a traders look at the same chart, same pair and same TF , same day trading approach. we could trade it in different ways/systems BUT there is will be "a period of same conclusions/same actions" if all the systems is a logic enough to cover the movement of the chart. they only different is the consequence of the actions .

"a period of same conclusions/same actions" what i call a common sense by all traders that i want to catch with my system, the rest would be a space to improve or accepted it as the deviations.

i have a fair idea for you and others to see if my system is work for you or not....i will post later about this.
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  • #18
  • Aug 2, 2015 8:01pm Aug 2, 2015 8:01pm
Quoting aman4forex
{quote} Sorry for interruption, Do you think risking 5-10% on a single trade for a 40 pips profit is a nice idea. Has to be a strong leveraged trades to get smooth return and reward should be at least 10-20% Even if you succeed half of what we trade.
no need to sorry as you could and welcome to ask and questioning as much as you willing.
a standards risking per trade(SL) would be 5-10 %, its either for 40 pips at minimum or more. i have some test on the SL case and its the save level that i recommend.

thanks.
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  • #19
  • Aug 2, 2015 8:18pm Aug 2, 2015 8:18pm
Quoting sam30
{quote} Thanks for your brilliant comment as well. yours view is very logic as you are a true trader. Let me explain a bit for what i see a thing about forex trading. when we all as a traders look at the same chart, same pair and same TF , same day trading approach. we could trade it in different ways/systems BUT there is will be "a period of same conclusions/same actions" if all the systems is a logic enough to cover the movement of the chart. they only different is the consequence of the actions . "a period of same conclusions/same actions" what...
now talk about the idea...
this is special offers for two weeks "test drive" for serious candidates of pool members....but i need a group of candidate and you all must read the term & condition as well.

I will give clear signal of entry, SL and TP area every day (Tuesday-Thursday) every week for 2 week period just for serious candidates. we left Monday and Friday. I would give only A++ (strong signal only). Recommended to use conservative or medium risk if you are in live account (micro,nano,standard)

Once you have and proven by majority of the candidates who test on it. you all are agree to join the pool members .
and your right to be pay back of your initial investment will be erase and a % of ROI in a return as the options is applied.

how if fail?
--->now i want to see/hear your voice of request about the term & conditions on that situation.

a think its a fair enough.

thanks and want to any idea or something.

thanks
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  • #20
  • Aug 3, 2015 5:42am Aug 3, 2015 5:42am
I like your offer Sam, could you give more details about this 2 weeks trial period, for example, at what time do you usually send the signals? this way we can know if the trading sessions time is good for us...
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