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  • #1
  • First Post: Jul 7, 2015 1:10am Jul 7, 2015 1:10am
Guys, I'm trying to trade with HotForex and Pepperstone. I'm not so happy with either of these 2 because of the lag (Hf) and disconnections (Pp).
I think that my comp is quite fast and my internet speed decent enough. So I only blame the distance from Thailand to Cyprus (Hf) and Australia (Pp).
If anyone else is trading from Thailand AND is happy with the connection/platform speed, please tell me which broker do you trade with.
I'm scalping and speed is of utmost importance.
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  • #2
  • Jul 7, 2015 3:58am Jul 7, 2015 3:58am
I used Exness ( not recommended however easy the funding from Thailand!) and use IC Markets...both shows about 300-400ms to server.
Not my favorite, but then countryside Thailand the pings aren't that great, little way around that.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #3
  • Jul 7, 2015 4:45am Jul 7, 2015 4:45am
Quoting profitfarmer
I used Exness ( not recommended however easy the funding from Thailand!) and use IC Markets...both shows about 300-400ms to server. Not my favorite, but then countryside Thailand the pings aren't that great, little way around that.
I'll contact them to see where their servers are located. Meanwhile, are they ok? No issues so far?
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  • #4
  • Jul 7, 2015 5:39am Jul 7, 2015 5:39am
As far as I know (and else) PStone's platform timezone GMT +3. Not Australia. Also big brokers has several servers, you may ask it in their support-chat
  • #5
  • Jul 7, 2015 6:04am Jul 7, 2015 6:04am
KyleSp, I am sorry, but server timezone has nothing to do with the lag/latency issue.
Server location a lot more.
As well as your own location, thus I mentioned to wattaman that I am located in the countryside Thailand...in from Bkk I imagine the ping time, and thus the lag/latency issue would be somewhat lessen a problem.
Both brokers I mentioned has Asian servers too, HK, Singapore. However sometimes MT4 connects to other server, whatever finds the fastest at log in...the reason I commented my average ping time to server (300-400ms).
Trading from Thailand actually...so, kinda experience what wattaman's issues are.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #6
  • Jul 7, 2015 7:35pm Jul 7, 2015 7:35pm
Quoting profitfarmer
KyleSp, I am sorry, but server timezone has nothing to do with the lag/latency issue. Server location a lot more. As well as your own location, thus I mentioned to wattaman that I am located in the countryside Thailand...in from Bkk I imagine the ping time, and thus the lag/latency issue would be somewhat lessen a problem. Both brokers I mentioned has Asian servers too, HK, Singapore. However sometimes MT4 connects to other server, whatever finds the fastest at log in...the reason I commented my average ping time to server (300-400ms). Trading from...
Hi again and thanks for the answers.
Exness told me that their servers are in Netherlands and Icmarkets are in New York somewhere.
KileSP, you're right. Pepperstone is also in New York, not Australia.
Still no broker from around Thailand, or at least not so popular ones, since nobody seems to use them.

I find it strange how some of these brokers advice me to rent a VPS to increase the speed, while telling me that the VPS is located in the same building as the trading server. I don't see it happening, or maybe I don't get this internet technology right.
But I was thinking "Yes, but who will solve the MyPC > VPS speed?" Another VPS in between, maybe
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  • #7
  • Jul 8, 2015 3:47am Jul 8, 2015 3:47am
GMT+3 it's not NY Its eastern Europe. About VPS: yes you may order it (some brokers offer for free, depends on your deposit), and speed will be higher, no matter if they are located in the same place. Also it's necessary that you have stable and fast your own Inet connection
  • #8
  • Jul 8, 2015 4:15am Jul 8, 2015 4:15am
Quoting wattaman
Guys, I'm trying to trade with HotForex and Pepperstone. I'm not so happy with either of these 2 because of the lag (Hf) and disconnections (Pp). I think that my comp is quite fast and my internet speed decent enough. So I only blame the distance from Thailand to Cyprus (Hf) and Australia (Pp). If anyone else is trading from Thailand AND is happy with the connection/platform speed, please tell me which broker do you trade with. I'm scalping and speed is of utmost importance.
Have you traded with them for a long time or just last week? recent weeks are greek crisis and it could cause your trading didn't go through.
  • #9
  • Jul 8, 2015 4:24am Jul 8, 2015 4:24am
Quoting KyleSP
GMT+3 it's not NY Its eastern Europe. About VPS: yes you may order it (some brokers offer for free, depends on your deposit), and speed will be higher, no matter if they are located in the same place. Also it's necessary that you have stable and fast your own Inet connection
I don't know where +3 is, but Pp told me that their servers are in NY. Anyway, how come a VPS can make the connection faster?! I don't get it. It's like putting an obstacle between me and the server. Is there something I should know?
Hoangforex, yesterday happened a lot, today seems to be better. It might be 'cause of the Greeks. Usually is happens once in 2-3 days.
Again, I do have a good internet connection. I can watch HD movies online, so I guess my net is fast enough.

Bt still, my question remains. What (tested) brokers have servers in Asia?
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  • #10
  • Jul 8, 2015 4:35am Jul 8, 2015 4:35am
Quoting wattaman
Guys, I'm trying to trade with HotForex and Pepperstone. I'm not so happy with either of these 2 because of the lag (Hf) and disconnections (Pp). I think that my comp is quite fast and my internet speed decent enough. So I only blame the distance from Thailand to Cyprus (Hf) and Australia (Pp). If anyone else is trading from Thailand AND is happy with the connection/platform speed, please tell me which broker do you trade with. I'm scalping and speed is of utmost importance.
I live in the Philippines and I'm also not much happy with Pepperstone (not because of disconnections, there are none!). I asked my trade mates and they suggest FinFX as a very good broker. I think I will give them a try.

Jibala
PDF & BCC (Patience Discipline Focus & Belief Confidence Consistency)
  • #11
  • Jul 8, 2015 8:55pm Jul 8, 2015 8:55pm
Quoting JibalaPasan
{quote} I live in the Philippines and I'm also not much happy with Pepperstone (not because of disconnections, there are none!). I asked my trade mates and they suggest FinFX as a very good broker. I think I will give them a try. Jibala
US servers again.
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  • #12
  • Jul 9, 2015 2:35am Jul 9, 2015 2:35am
It could be the ISP or internet provider, for instance, I trade hotforex im from the philippines, if i use pldt connection it sucks due to traffic going through china first or something like that its a 3.5mbps connection, but if I use globe running a 2mbps connections its way better coz the traffic i direct (or so i was told) and yeah not so sure about finfx coz its like way way back in the US
  • #13
  • Jul 9, 2015 3:18am Jul 9, 2015 3:18am
Quoting jiggz
It could be the ISP or internet provider, for instance, I trade hotforex im from the philippines, if i use pldt connection it sucks due to traffic going through china first or something like that its a 3.5mbps connection, but if I use globe running a 2mbps connections its way better coz the traffic i direct (or so i was told) and yeah not so sure about finfx coz its like way way back in the US
I'm also with Globe (3 mbps), but during rainy season it doesn't matter what ISP you are with. That's the main problem in the Philippines:
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All cables, no matter what kind of, are bundled together.

Jibala
PDF & BCC (Patience Discipline Focus & Belief Confidence Consistency)
  • #14
  • Jul 9, 2015 3:31am Jul 9, 2015 3:31am
I feel you bro seriously pero bro, na testing mo na ung bagong 5 mbps nila na may 7 gig cap a day! ok nmn sakin so far, gamit ko lumang modem, di rin ako nag ttower na modem. best of luck.
  • #15
  • Jul 9, 2015 3:54am Jul 9, 2015 3:54am
Quoting jiggz
I feel you bro seriously pero bro, na testing mo na ung bagong 5 mbps nila na may 7 gig cap a day! ok nmn sakin so far, gamit ko lumang modem, di rin ako nag ttower na modem. best of luck.
You kindly should not write taglish, so others also will understand. I already asked many times at Globe for more speed but unfortunately it's not available in my area. 3 mbps is max. speed what I can get and I have ~2.7 dl / 1.4 ul.

Jibala
PDF & BCC (Patience Discipline Focus & Belief Confidence Consistency)
  • #16
  • Jul 9, 2015 5:21am Jul 9, 2015 5:21am
It is definitely not (only) the speed issue.
My download speed is fast(er) but that doesn't make the ping fast. It is low ping, to the local thai tower, but if I am testing against say Singapore, the difference is big. Guess the same goes to US.
I believe there is a big bottleneck between local internet speed in Thailand, and international data traffic's speed. The test on speedtest.net most certainly support this theory.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #17
  • Jul 9, 2015 10:59am Jul 9, 2015 10:59am
Quoting profitfarmer
I believe there is a big bottleneck between local internet speed in Thailand, and international data traffic's speed. The test on speedtest.net most certainly support this theory.
If that is the case (which is very well possible for various reasons) you might want to get in touch with some ctrader broker. Spotware is operating a proxy network, maybe you're lucky and they operate a proxy in Bangkok or so.

https://www.spotware.com/products/se...ms/proxy-cloud

Edit: as a trader you're not interested in speed, you need low latency. How much mbp/s you get doesn't matter, I assure you that charts are not transferred as a video stream
  • #18
  • Jul 9, 2015 8:39pm Jul 9, 2015 8:39pm
Quoting JensG
{quote} If that is the case (which is very well possible for various reasons) you might want to get in touch with some ctrader broker. Spotware is operating a proxy network, maybe you're lucky and they operate a proxy in Bangkok or so. https://www.spotware.com/products/se...ms/proxy-cloud Edit: as a trader you're not interested in speed, you need low latency. How much mbp/s you get doesn't matter, I assure you that charts are not transferred as a video stream
I don't know what a ctrade broker is, but this page http://www.forexchurch.com/cTrader-brokers.cfm says that Pepperstone is a ctrade and just yesterday I've lost 100$ 'cause I couldn't close a losing transaction in time. It took only 30' of lost connection.

Anyway, latency means speed, in internet terms. It is a speed issue, no matter what causes it: bottlenecks, poor Thai servers, net data getting filtered/censored first, cables bundled all together, weather etc. So I guess a server closer to my location is a good idea in any of the these cases, because it is the only thing I can change to improve my speed (or lower the latency, if you prefer ).

Unfortunately, still haven't found an Asian tested broker. I'm gonna ask on some other forex forums, too.
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  • #19
  • Jul 10, 2015 5:58am Jul 10, 2015 5:58am
ctrader is an alternative trading platform. So if you use MT4 with Pepper the Proxy network won't help you.
  • #20
  • Jul 13, 2015 1:33pm Jul 13, 2015 1:33pm
Quoting wattaman
Guys, I'm trying to trade with HotForex and Pepperstone. I'm not so happy with either of these 2 because of the lag (Hf) and disconnections (Pp). I think that my comp is quite fast and my internet speed decent enough. So I only blame the distance from Thailand to Cyprus (Hf) and Australia (Pp). If anyone else is trading from Thailand AND is happy with the connection/platform speed, please tell me which broker do you trade with. I'm scalping and speed is of utmost importance.

Use VPS dude. It costs me 30 bucks but I have 0-1 ms ping with Hotforex platform now.
If you are serious about trading I strongly recommend to do that.
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