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  • #1,561
  • Jun 17, 2015 6:29am Jun 17, 2015 6:29am
Quoting Earleone
Well. I told I would be careful today . Didnt happen. This one will possible end as a losing trade. I will start to worry at 5% DD. And has a hard limit for 7.5% . But since we are publishing our winning trades all the time I think it can be nice to show one that has been going wrong. It is not how we handle the winning trades that is important. It is actually how we deal with the losing trades . Will keep informed about this trade that I think can be floating for long period in DD. I am currently hedging half the position in eurgbp. {image}...
I publish all my trades, so do other traders here. Scroll back through thread and you'll find them along with explanations.

Marijan
  • #1,562
  • Jun 17, 2015 6:39am Jun 17, 2015 6:39am
Quoting feinan
{quote} still early to short.. target at 1.5760.. but if market run opposite way, watch 1.5540 and 1.5500 area..later data or fomc will know.. feinan {image}
Yes, I also think like that .....
Greetings from Indonesia to Singapore ....... hihihihihiiiiii.........

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  • #1,563
  • Jun 17, 2015 6:40am Jun 17, 2015 6:40am
Quoting marijan993
{quote} I publish all my trades, so do other traders here. Scroll back through thread and you'll find them along with explanations. Marijan
I have not been publishing all my trades, took some time to get the templates correct and I didnt want to have complains from Tah so had to make sure the templates was correct . But I have not had any losing baskets this far.
Trading in the shadow of SM
  • #1,564
  • Jun 17, 2015 6:40am Jun 17, 2015 6:40am
Quoting marijan993
{quote} I publish all my trades, so do other traders here. Scroll back through thread and you'll find them along with explanations. Marijan

Yes your posts are awesome marijan!!! Thank you I learn each time you post.
  • #1,565
  • Jun 17, 2015 7:06am Jun 17, 2015 7:06am
Can someone help me out on this.If volume was rising on the lows, does that signify that the MMs
are accumulating buy orders?
  • #1,566
  • Jun 17, 2015 7:11am Jun 17, 2015 7:11am
Encouraging Reminder

Dear Gals and Guys,

As the gardener here, I would appreciate help in keeping weed seeds out. Please keep the gates closed and be sure you and your guests walk the pathways and stay off the grass!

Yes, just a pleasant reminder this is a text book thread, not a bulletin board for folks to hang up their posty notes.

Specifically, and this would move things along a great deal, when posting a trade open do please point out the overriding PVSRA consideration(s) and anything else that made you see fit to enter the trade. Here is where less is more. Be specific and focus on key elements. It will not only help readers now and into the future, it will help you yourself review your reason for the trade,.....which can sometimes be a very good thing to do before you hit the "Go!" button.

PVSRA is an art form. This has been said countless times. It has many aspects, or facets....like a diamond. It is like chicken soup, or a pot of stew. There are a lot of ingredients that make up the whole of it. But at the open of any trade, there must be some overriding facet, or simple summary of the reason for the trade. And the more clear you can express it, the better for you, for all readers attempting to learn, and hence for this thread,.....our text book.

To all, good trading (or no trading) today, with the major releases.

Thank You,
tah
  • #1,567
  • Jun 17, 2015 7:20am Jun 17, 2015 7:20am
Hi! new member here, I want to ask a question

"But price tends to consolidate above key SR when MMs are filling short orders for SM (Smart Money) and long orders for DM (Dumb Money), and price tends to consolidate below key SR when MMs are filling long orders for SM and short orders for DM." TAH from page 1

My question is in chart of M15 i see more than one whole, half and quarter number. And I'm having difficulty to determine whether it is consolidating at above or below. Because for example if there's a lot of activity at above A whole number, means an activity Another quarter, half number, and whole number above it

ABOVE WHOLE NUMBER = SHORT
at the same time
BELLOW HALF NUMBER - LONG

So how to determine is it HIGH or LOW?
Sorry if it's a stupid question
Thx
  • #1,568
  • Edited 7:34am Jun 17, 2015 7:22am | Edited 7:34am
Market Comment: GBP Pairs

Now, with the "nicey nice" Robber Bank MMs, who would have thought they'd run 100+ pips stop hunts so early in their rigged "game"?

Well, that is one direction out of the way. How many swings does it take to clean out the visitors' accounts?......

I suspect GJ will hang up there. I mean, until there is a trigger release out of Japan, why bring it down. The more time up in this even higher area that the MMs could force everyone to trade in, the more shorts SM could load up. Each step higher, followed by more shorting, raises the average cost of short positions that SM has. It is not a bad thing for them. As the saying goes, "SM can be wrong longer than anyone else." And SM is largely the big Robber Banks themselves. And this is how they take billions in profits each year from this currency market they operate.

-tah
  • #1,569
  • Jun 17, 2015 7:23am Jun 17, 2015 7:23am
UsdChf, kiss the trend, by the way market is moving ahead news..dont overexpose your risk. anything can happen on FOMC.
Happy trading.

feinan
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  • #1,570
  • Jun 17, 2015 7:23am Jun 17, 2015 7:23am
dancing

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welcome back tah! love this team!!
  • #1,571
  • Edited 7:57am Jun 17, 2015 7:41am | Edited 7:57am
Still More Than 5 Hours to FOMC ("Fork Out More Cash" to the Robber Banks)

So, it probably will be a dull day. At least until then. Yeah, the Robber Banks know what is coming. But "propriety" dictates that they hold off until the nanosecond of releases so as to not rub that fact into the noses of all who are duped into believing they are participating in a "free and open market, where pricing is based on supply and demand." ......

The Robber Banks that operate the currency market "Demand" profits. And they create their "Supply" of profits by moving price! Don't ever forget this.

tah
  • #1,572
  • Jun 17, 2015 8:01am Jun 17, 2015 8:01am
Quoting filipferdi
Hi! new member here, I want to ask a question "But price tends to consolidate above key SR when MMs are filling short orders for SM (Smart Money) and long orders for DM (Dumb Money), and price tends to consolidate below key SR when MMs are filling long orders for SM and short orders for DM." TAH from page 1 My question is in chart of M15 i see more than one whole, half and quarter number. And I'm having difficulty to determine whether it is consolidating at above or below. Because for example if there's a lot of activity at above A whole number,...
filipferdi,

train a lot on demo account based on what you learn here for until you are profitable.
After this you will not have to ask anymore, becouse you will mostly know the answer.

If it would be so easy, we would all be very rich people...

Denmas'es trade: on this chart building long is visible very clearly (under the half level), which is not always the case. That's why we need to practice and practice and practice...
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Quoting lugoffohio
Can someone help me out on this.If volume was rising on the lows, does that signify that the MMs are accumulating buy orders?
lugoffohio,

this question is answered a lot of times on this thread,
so read and re-read again.
PVSRA
  • #1,573
  • Jun 17, 2015 8:24am Jun 17, 2015 8:24am
Quoting filipferdi
Hi! new member here, I want to ask a question "But price tends to consolidate above key SR when MMs are filling short orders for SM (Smart Money) and long orders for DM (Dumb Money), and price tends to consolidate below key SR when MMs are filling long orders for SM and short orders for DM." TAH from page 1 My question is in chart of M15 i see more than one whole, half and quarter number. And I'm having difficulty to determine whether it is consolidating at above or below. Because for example if there's a lot of activity at above A whole number,...
A Question About PVSRA

filipferdi,

It is not a stupid question. And the answer goes to the heart of HOW THE MARKET WORKS, which is to say that the Robber Banks manipulate prices to secure their profits thru commissions by filling orders and thru stealing other peoples' money by stop hunts.

So, they range prices. They swing prices up and down in ranges that are sometimes less than 100 pips and sometimes more than 200 pips wide. And sometimes in ill defined ranges; up and down movements that are ragged for ranges and yet not sufficient to be "trends". And the whole idea of this price manipulation by the Robber Banks is to fill orders for commissions, but in varying sequences of direction and distances that will sustain market confusion so that traders never have a clear picture of what the "SM" side of the market is doing.

So, sometimes PVSRA does not yield crystal clear clues. And that is a time to be patient, not trade, and wait for a better time to trade; to wait for a time of more clear PVSRA clues and with PA moving in the direction that coincides with the PVSRA clues.

A mistake traders often make is in thinking they are supposed to be able to know how price is going to move next. The fact of the matter is that no one but the Robber Banks themselves know how they are going to move price next. What traders can do is engage in PVSRA and await the time when price starts to move in the corresponding direction; make their entry and manage the trade so that if things still go wrong, the loss is small. That is the best we can do.

And Fisher755 is correct in suggesting that you, that everyone that comes here, needs to read and think their way thru every informative post in this thread. This is a text book thread. No one can go to college and succeed by opening their text book to the last page and expect to understand, and then ask questions when it occurs to them that they do not understand.

tah
  • #1,574
  • Jun 17, 2015 8:32am Jun 17, 2015 8:32am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} A Question About PVSRA filipferdi, It is not a stupid question. And the answer goes to the heart of HOW THE MARKET WORKS, which is to say that the Robber Banks manipulate prices to secure their profits thru commissions by filling orders and thru stealing other peoples' money by stop hunts. So, they range prices. They swing prices up and down in ranges that are sometimes less than 100 pips and sometimes more than 200 pips wide. And sometimes in ill defined ranges; up and down movements that are ragged for ranges and yet not sufficient to...
Beside this Tah's post, I still remember many different answers about this topics (on this thread in the past) by Tah, Mauro-J and Marijan

We should all read and re-read them many times ..
PVSRA
  • #1,575
  • Jun 17, 2015 8:37am Jun 17, 2015 8:37am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} A Question About PVSRA filipferdi, It is not a stupid question. And the answer goes to the heart of HOW THE MARKET WORKS, which is to say that the Robber Banks manipulate prices to secure their profits thru commissions by filling orders and thru stealing other peoples' money by stop hunts. So, they range prices. They swing prices up and down in ranges that are sometimes less than 100 pips and sometimes more than 200 pips wide. And sometimes in ill defined ranges; up and down movements that are ragged for ranges and yet not sufficient to...
Thx master TAH, I hope to contribute in the future but first I have to try to apply PVSRA
  • #1,576
  • Edited 8:51am Jun 17, 2015 8:40am | Edited 8:51am
Today Brings Answers?

Inquiring minds want to know......
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Depending on which way the Robber Banks conceived it, it could be a bitch or a bastard!
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  • #1,577
  • Edited 8:59am Jun 17, 2015 8:48am | Edited 8:59am
Quoting traderathome
Today Brings Answers? Inquiring minds want to know...... {image}
EURUSD Comment:
It is a hard one. MMs would not want it any other way ..
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Quoting Mauro-J
UERUSD UPDATE The First Post : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post8316775 Update #1 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...11#post8317311 Update #2 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...94#post8319694 Update #3 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...33#post8321033 Update #4 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...96#post8322596 Update #5 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...90#post8322790 Update #6 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...09#post8322909 Update #7 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post8328936 Update #8 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...44#post8329844 Update #9 : Short trades closed before FOMC. Anything could happen on FOMC, and its better to closed my all shorts position. And would not let me get stuck on any seduction which could be plunge me in the trap of the greedy Robber Bank MMs in Wallstreet. Dont let them fools us with their f*c*in' fraud. -MJ {image}
This is the best answer to the question! A pip is a pip, and here is a lot of them in the pocket!
PVSRA
  • #1,578
  • Jun 17, 2015 8:50am Jun 17, 2015 8:50am
UERUSD UPDATE
The First Post : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...75#post8316775
Update #1 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...11#post8317311
Update #2 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...94#post8319694
Update #3 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...33#post8321033
Update #4 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...96#post8322596
Update #5 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...90#post8322790
Update #6 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...09#post8322909
Update #7 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...36#post8328936
Update #8 : http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...44#post8329844

Update #9 :

  1. Short trades closed before FOMC.
  2. Anything could happen on FOMC, and its better to closed my all shorts position. And would not let me get stuck on any seduction which could be plunge me in the trap of the greedy Robber Bank MMs in Wallstreet. Dont let them fools us with their f*c*in' fraud.

-MJ

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"Bulls make money, Bears make money, but hogs get slaughtered"
  • #1,579
  • Jun 17, 2015 9:00am Jun 17, 2015 9:00am
UJ, M5 scap +6, entered with H1 & D1 green candles, uptrend with 98.6% USD vs. JPY strength probability for a successful scalp with pending buy orders at 124.00 key level (short term resistance turned support emphasizing short term) largest DD was approx. 3 pips.........
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Keep It Simple
  • #1,580
  • Jun 17, 2015 9:05am Jun 17, 2015 9:05am
Mantra

Dr. Alexander Elder, in his book Trading for a living said he would always just about as he is going to trade said: Hi, my name is Alexander and I am a loser. Dr. Elder is a psychiatrist which gave him unique insight into human behavior. That short sentence is a powerful tool for anyone battling an addiction and made dr. Elder a wealthy man. How can we benefit from this? Well, we could do the exactly the same as he does, but we here have our own mantra: we cannot know how the MMs are going to move price next. So, next time you are about to pull the trigger, repeat our own mantra out loud. It will prevent us from taking brash moves and hopefully sharpen up our patience and objectivity.

Marijan
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