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  • #61
  • Jun 11, 2015 12:02pm Jun 11, 2015 12:02pm
Quoting dkrock
If I understand this correctly, you do not know ANY hedge fund managers, but are willing to teach people how to trade like them. How is that possible? You think one size does not fit all, so you have created a "hybrid" trading system, which is really several systems, and none of them are profitable. How will you make them profitable? From me? You have yet to explain anything you do? Then you made the worst mistake, lol, by not understanding that you keep doing the same thing over and over, so you probably should not trash talk indicator trading....
Hi dkrock,

you made me laugh my friend, i wonder how your giving me advice about the way i should trade and hedge funds and at the same time you don't have a trade explorer to show us your performance in Forex .

at least i'm not afraid to admit that i'have been losing like a lot of traders do and showing my trade explorer for all to see.

do you want to know how i will teach you to trade like hedge fund? then i invite you to subscribe so you can catch up with my performance progress.

by the way i'm not going to block you because i expected such sarcasm .

please show your trade explorer before you give me your advice.

trade well
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #62
  • Jun 11, 2015 12:55pm Jun 11, 2015 12:55pm
Quoting dkrock
{quote} Why would I have a trade explorer? Isn't that for newbies to test their effectiveness? By your comments it seems you have ignored my advice to you. And completely dismissed providing any credentials >per your claim< about trading like a hedge fund. I didn't start this thread and make false statements. You did. So, you cannot attack me for questioning you. My performance is none of your concern. Could I give you my bank account number and then you can just send me your money instead of losing it to random traders? You surely must know I have...

do you want to convince me that you won't show your performance because a trade explorer for newbies? if you are really a professional and profitable trader then prove it to all traders .

you don't have the right to question me because you haven't proved to me that your trading better than me. all you can concern about is watching my performance , then when i fail i welcome your advice and questioning.

i guess you are losing in Forex , that's why you afraid to show us your performance LOL

it seems that you don't know that most hedge funds traders do have draw downs and losing trades sometimes , so my performance so far is no evidence that i'm l i'm not going to trade like hedge funds

Hedge funds are people like you and me , but not all of them have an edge in trading and there are a lot of hedge funds failed and collapsed .
i'm not lying to people because i have trade explorer that speak for itself and i won't be able to hide my performance like you do.

i have nothing to hide here , so i'm not asking for your approval on my skills because you don't have trade explorer or any evidence that entitle you to give me advice or make a fun of my thread.

don't judge a live account that has started for 20 days only.

again i welcome your criticism because i'm confident that i will do well in my trading .

I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #63
  • Jun 11, 2015 1:07pm Jun 11, 2015 1:07pm
Quoting Earleone
Yes , I agree to that according to risk. But I know that risk alone is not enough. You will also need an edge when it comes to forex trading. When you are sure you have that edge and it is working that you are making pips every week. month by month, you just know it . Then it is time to increase risk. Not just jump in to new strategy with increased risk. I think I been doing 100 of methods / systems / ea's that I was very optimistic about / believed in. Can even say so sure that i putted money to some off them with sometimes high risk. I dont have...
Earleone,

you are right , i must have an edge to increase risk . i second you on this

i assure you that i have an edge , and i won't take crazy risks , everything is calculated .

thank you for your kind advice , i will take your words into consideration

wish the best luck in trading
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #64
  • Jun 12, 2015 2:27am Jun 12, 2015 2:27am
Hi

new trading day just started . i'm watching the market now to trade a complete new leveraged strategy which is part of my hybrid strategies called leveraged Momentum trading .

leverage up to 1:50 .this strategy is widely used among professionals. so i hope to do well today.

wish you happy trading
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  • #65
  • Jun 12, 2015 3:07am Jun 12, 2015 3:07am
Quoting Earleone
Here is results I have from high leveraged strategy http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Earl...-dbo-hr/832785 It is profitable. I had VPS server crashed in April and will not set up again the trading off this system before August because of traditional low momentum in summer months. This strategy has an edge. I know it will make money long term. Here I traded with high leverage risking up to 15% of my account for every single trade. It is possible But be ready for Heavy DD. I have it automated since it is mechanical. I think this is...
Hi Earleone,

thanks for posting your leveraged strategy , i highly appreciate your input .

this is really heavy leveraged strategy , but it's not like my leveraged strategy that i'm intending to use . your strategy using WAY TOO much leverage that is very risky .

yes i agree with you i must be ready for heavy draw-downs and big dip in my balance, yes your right on that.

i'm not going to use leverage as much as you did in your leveraged strategy.

thank you for your helpful post Earleone.
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #66
  • Jun 12, 2015 4:29am Jun 12, 2015 4:29am
Hi

i just started to utilize the new leveraged strategy that i told you before, in the first attempt to trade i gained 3% in just one trade , so the strategy seems promising.

the first leveraged trade was USDJPY and it was stopped out with 10 pips loss , the second leveraged one was EUR/USD trade and this one gained 3% profits


thanks
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  • #67
  • Jun 13, 2015 5:11am Jun 13, 2015 5:11am
Quoting forexer
{quote} Hi Earleone, thanks for posting your leveraged strategy , i highly appreciate your input . this is really heavy leveraged strategy , but it's not like my leveraged strategy that i'm intending to use . your strategy using WAY TOO much leverage that is very risky . yes i agree with you i must be ready for heavy draw-downs and big dip in my balance, yes your right on that. i'm not going to use leverage as much as you did in your leveraged strategy. thank you for your helpful post Earleone.
Hi Forexer,

Nice that you have good start with the new strategy. Continue like that

Yes this strategy I showed you was an experiment. When it had been doing 100% profit I withdraw my initial deposits and decided to let it continue to run to see what happened
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  • #68
  • Jun 13, 2015 5:30am Jun 13, 2015 5:30am
If someone is trading for more than 15 years, and still have this kind of outcome, they have to reflect more on their mindset and personality. Same to any sports and business. Are they viewing the market correctly? Are they managing their trades correctly? Etc.
The only winner is the one who survive the longest...
  • #69
  • Jun 14, 2015 5:00pm Jun 14, 2015 5:00pm
Do I think you are trading like a hedge fund manager?! SURE DO! Don't even have to read, one look at explorer tells all. Minimal risk/gain, being slightly down overall. Sounds about like the normal hedge fund what it does for its investors.

haha im just kidding , I respect your risk in not blowing the account
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  • #70
  • Jun 15, 2015 7:52am Jun 15, 2015 7:52am
Hi

the markets seem indecisive , and liquidity is dried up completely , i'm waiting for ECB President Draghi speak so i expect high volatility .

now i'm on sidelines to play it safe.

thanks
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #71
  • Jun 15, 2015 10:39am Jun 15, 2015 10:39am
Hi

just closed long GBPAUD LONGS with good profits

now what i'm trying to do is to control the draw down by getting involved in high probability trades plus strict risk and emotions management .

so i wish you all good luck.
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #72
  • Jun 15, 2015 12:43pm Jun 15, 2015 12:43pm
Quoting Earleone
{quote} Hi Forexer, Nice that you have good start with the new strategy. Continue like that Yes this strategy I showed you was an experiment. When it had been doing 100% profit I withdraw my initial deposits and decided to let it continue to run to see what happened
Hi Earleone,

yes you did great job by withdrawing your initial investment and trading only with profits, it's great risk management strategy

keep up the good work
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  • #73
  • Jun 16, 2015 1:49am Jun 16, 2015 1:49am
Thank you forexer

I use the same strategy with some mix off pairs with lower risk . It has done incredibly good in May and June. So looks like it was mistake to pause the high risk ones for summer. It is the problem thrusting to statistics .

Did you use new strategy for your trades yesterday? It seems the same as old style to me. Anyway nice day you had. Keep up that way!

Happy trading
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  • #74
  • Jun 16, 2015 2:40am Jun 16, 2015 2:40am
Quoting kinspk
If someone is trading for more than 15 years, and still have this kind of outcome, they have to reflect more on their mindset and personality. Same to any sports and business. Are they viewing the market correctly? Are they managing their trades correctly? Etc.
Hi kinspk,

thanks for your comment , and i need to clarify an issue about my Hedge fund system.

my Hedge fund System is only 27 days old , so we can not judge on either the System or trader for the bad performance so far.

My system is targeting certain advanced metrics to be achieved such as sharp ratio ,calmar ratio and MAE , so these are advanced metrics which are used only with Hedge fund systems and can only be clear and generated when the system has at least 6 months active trading since inception.

so don't judge so quickly as the system needs enough time to achieve the targeted metrics .

happy trading
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #75
  • Jun 16, 2015 2:53am Jun 16, 2015 2:53am
Quoting forexer
{quote} Hi kinspk, thanks for your comment , and i need to clarify an issue about my Hedge fund system. my Hedge fund System is only 27 days old , so we can not judge on either the System or trader for the bad performance so far. My system is targeting certain advanced metrics to be achieved such as sharp ratio ,calmar ratio and MAE , so these are advanced metrics which are used only with Hedge fund systems and can only be clear and generated when the system has at least 6 months active trading since inception. so don't judge so quickly as the system...
I think you don't understand my statement well. I never doubt your system that's why I said if someone is losing after so many years, sometimes the problem never lies on the strategy. The statement wasn't there to sound negative, but to tell you to look from another angle to rectify the issue of recent trading.
The only winner is the one who survive the longest...
  • #76
  • Jun 16, 2015 3:33am Jun 16, 2015 3:33am
Quoting kinspk
{quote} I think you don't understand my statement well. I never doubt your system that's why I said if someone is losing after so many years, sometimes the problem never lies on the strategy. The statement wasn't there to sound negative, but to tell you to look from another angle to rectify the issue of recent trading.
Hi kinspk,

thanks for making it much clear , i got your point.

yes sure your right on that , success to trade the markets is not relying on system alone , but also there are much more complicated elements that are involved in successful trading and the most important element is ourselves and psychology .

so i have learned from my mistakes over the past years and i wish all traders to enhance their performance by learning the mistakes of others who have learned it the hard way.

that's why i started this thread in the first place is TO LEARN FROM MISTAKES WHEN TRADING LIVE.

wish you the best luck
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #77
  • Jun 16, 2015 3:51am Jun 16, 2015 3:51am
Quoting forexer
Hi , lessons to be learned from my live account performance so far today's lessons about how stop loss order can save you in the hard times we can learn valuable lessons as Forex traders from my live account performance as follows: 1- using stop loss order in a systematic way can make you survive and get you back on the right track 2- placing stop loss order in every single trade , give you the peace of mind and total control on your trading psychology 3-stop loss orders must be hard and to be set correctly (make sure you use it ) 4- i'm talking...
Hi Forexer
I disagree with your "4- i'm talking here about HARD STOPS because MENTAL STOPS are totally irrelevant to trading successfully."
Lot of professional traders use mental stops! I mostly use mental stops when I am trading live in front of monitor.
Hard stops get hit 20pips almost guaranteed more then that then your losses get bigger.Just saying that there are many ways to trade successfully.

Please read
http://www.amazon.com/Disciplined-Tr.../dp/1592802478
Great insights
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #78
  • Jun 16, 2015 4:01am Jun 16, 2015 4:01am
Quoting forexer
{quote} Hi kinspk, thanks for making it much clear , i got your point. yes sure your right on that , success to trade the markets is not relying on system alone , but also there are much more complicated elements that are involved in successful trading and the most important element is ourselves and psychology . so i have learned from my mistakes over the past years and i wish all traders to enhance their performance by learning the mistakes of others who have learned it the hard way. that's why i started this thread in the first place is TO LEARN...
Yea hope u do well soon.
The only winner is the one who survive the longest...
  • #79
  • Jun 16, 2015 12:56pm Jun 16, 2015 12:56pm
Quoting Earleone
Thank you forexer I use the same strategy with some mix off pairs with lower risk . It has done incredibly good in May and June. So looks like it was mistake to pause the high risk ones for summer. It is the problem thrusting to statistics . Did you use new strategy for your trades yesterday? It seems the same as old style to me. Anyway nice day you had. Keep up that way! Happy trading

Hi Earleone,

yes iused the old style in my trading and i didn't lever my trades yesterday , iit was the old style conservative strategy used.
as for the new leveraged strategy ,actually i can tolerate 1:15 , no more than 1:20 as a maximum leverage although my broker leverage is set at 1:50 but i can never go this far to lever my trades.

but today i started to use the new leveraged strategy today. by analyzing my trades today you will see a different style with 1:15 as max leverage.

trade well
I always knew that someday I would make it big
  • #80
  • Jun 16, 2015 3:22pm Jun 16, 2015 3:22pm
Hi Forexer,

Was looking a little bit on some off the trades. I normally don't trade euraud.

Not the best start for your new strategy. I think you has tested that it statistically is a winning strategy since you say it has an edge. I was looking at some losing long trade. Pair is trending down on 1H and 4 H with clear lower highs and lower lows and better to trade with the short term trend since you then can have much bigger SL. If you dont use bigger SL when trading with the trend it actually doesnt matter wich direction to trade. You can trade all the swings and try to follow the market. I think you know all this as good as me or even better I say it anyway But as mentioned if strategy is tested and statistically a winning strategy then it should be ok.

New day with new possibilities tomorrow.

Good luck with the trading
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