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  • #3,241
  • Jun 13, 2015 7:49am Jun 13, 2015 7:49am
Quoting gwindy
Sai Ram, I have a query regarding the Counter Trend rules if I may... When you say take the trade on the small blue dot, I assume we should wait for the next candle to open? Would you also recommend waiting for the parabolic signal? Perhaps an example chart/trade might assist sorry for all the questions, I hope they help others.
Hi Gwindy,

I trade the counter trend everyday if there is one gives a high probability signal.

I suggest you to take the small blue dot circle generated by SSChannel3 v1.03 indicator (Verified, author). Because the big blue dot circle might not stabled when you decide to consider it as a counter trend signal. For safety, we need price retraces from the appearance of the big blue dot circle and we want to see the small blue dot circle appears then we can assure ourself that the small blue dot circle is aligned with the big blue dot circle.

The chart below illustrates the high probability of taking a counter trend signal in M15 below the RIPT.

P1 : Trend H4 is red -- Downtrend

P2 : Big blue dot circle appears -- Signal of the reversal

R : There are retracements

P3 : Small blue dot circle appears and aligns with the big blue dot circle-- This is a signal that you have to take and pinpoint in M5

Sai Ram
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  • #3,242
  • Jun 13, 2015 8:56am Jun 13, 2015 8:56am
Friendly Remainder / Info

I just do because I'm IT man

In case you have a valid Windows 7 or Windows 8 license, you can update to Windows 10 for free. Don't forget and don't do now. In 6 months it will be early enough, when most WX bugs will be fixed. You may lose some functionality ( e.g. Mediaserver ) but that should be ok.

Read the related Microsoft documentation before you update. No, I am not a Microsoft employee.

Best, Verified.
  • #3,243
  • Jun 13, 2015 2:43pm Jun 13, 2015 2:43pm
Quoting verified
Friendly Remainder / Info I just do because I'm IT man In case you have a valid Windows 7 or Windows 8 license, you can update to Windows 10 for free. Don't forget and don't do now. In 6 months it will be early enough, when most WX bugs will be fixed. You may lose some functionality ( e.g. Mediaserver ) but that should be ok. Read the related Microsoft documentation before you update. No, I am not a Microsoft employee. Best, Verified.
Already have Windows 10 Beta running great without any problems. Don't know what Mediaserver is. If you thought Windows 8 was fast, this is even faster, Since windows 7 Microsoft has been doing an amazing job speeding things up, plus you get a start menu, not like the original but I like it, can always install an app to get the original start menu.
  • #3,244
  • Jun 13, 2015 2:45pm Jun 13, 2015 2:45pm
Quoting Landline
Hi all I hope everyone is getting to grips with their own preferred version by now... there are plenty of options available to suit everyone's taste I'd have thought by now. I like Vs thinking regarding his recent post and the indi he is developing...it could well be a very useful addition. You may have noticed on some of my posts several verticle lines and perhaps wondered what the heck are they supposed to be doing. Well, as we all know, timing is everything, especially when it comes to trading, and at the moment, we have talked about taking our...

Landline can you tell me the name of the indicator for those arrows.

Thanks
  • #3,245
  • Jun 13, 2015 2:53pm Jun 13, 2015 2:53pm
Quoting verified
{quote} Hi, first my congratulations to your 66 pips, very impressive. Second, a comment to the trend. A a big trend is very useful. Whether you do it with a Heikin Ashi previous day candle, a daily candle or a H4 trend for shorter timeframes is secondary, IMO. The slopes of the waves are steeper and more easy to trade in the direction of the big trend. However, when you trade mostly M1 or M5 like I do, additional trend info for shorter trends can be very useful. This is what the new ( untested ) trend indi I'm talking about on the previous page...
I agree of course going with the main trend is always best, but on some days you might lose out on trades, not get any trades or even end up losing trades, because while the trend in H4 is still showing downtrend, it might be making a reversal to an uptrend but the indicators won't tell you this until after the fact, so technically at that point in time you are trading against the trend.

So the problem with higher time frames H4, H1, Daily, Weekly, Monthly they are much slower to get a trend reversal, that's why I prefer the lower time frames, I might even start to look into the 1M chart with maybe either a 5M confirmation or a 15M, 5M, and then enter on the 1M chart.

But it's always good to trade with the main trend of the higher time frames, just be careful if they are going through a reversal which could mess things up for you if you are only taking trades with the main direction, this is why i prefer the lower time frame counter trades also, but only high probability ones.

Yes please post your indicator when you get a chance I would like to test it also.
  • #3,246
  • Jun 13, 2015 2:59pm Jun 13, 2015 2:59pm
Hi guys,

I want to alert you when you enter a trade in M15 or M5. There are zones in the channel (TMA) that you have to be careful.

Sometimes, we have a best signal setup to enter a trade. But we don't know if the pair we trade has enough juice to push the move far from the entry.

This is an alarm situation that we have to choose a best entry.

I have raised some important areas in the channel to be my guide line.

first, I start with the best of the best entry signal in both zone.

Short trade
1) Zone sell Over Bought (ZSOB) -- Sell in this area is a very low risk

Long trade
1) Zone buy Over Sold (ZBOS) -- Buy in this area is a very low risk

Second, I have identified the authorized entry signal in both zone

Short trade
2) Zone sell limit is between border sell limit and upper channel(UC) -- Sell in this area can grap more than 10 or 15 pips before price enter in the RIPT

Long trade
2) Zone buy limit is between border buy limit and lower channel(LC) -- Buy in this area can grap more than 10 or 15 pips before price enter in the RIPT

The 2 caution areas are a low transaction. You execute a trade in there but if you smell some resistance the way price moves then prepare to secure your trade.

Now, this my opinions but you don't have to follow the points above. I just want to share my ideas.


Sai Ram
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  • #3,247
  • Jun 13, 2015 3:45pm Jun 13, 2015 3:45pm
Quoting sriloba
Hi guys, I want to alert you when you enter a trade in M15 or M5. There are zones in the channel (TMA) that you have to be careful. Sometimes, we have a best signal setup to enter a trade. But we don't know if the pair we trade has enough juice to push the move far from the entry. This is an alarm situation that we have to choose a best entry. I have raised some important areas in the channel to be my guide line. first, I start with the best of the best entry signal in both zone. Short trade 1) Zone sell Over Bought (ZSOB) -- Sell in this area is...
Pretty much what I have been doing Trading very near the Outer channel borders or outside, anything below is kind of risky.
  • #3,248
  • Jun 13, 2015 5:24pm Jun 13, 2015 5:24pm
hi sriloba is that big dot cycle and tick bar repaint or not
  • #3,249
  • Jun 13, 2015 5:50pm Jun 13, 2015 5:50pm
Quoting firas1980
hi sriloba is that big dot cycle and tick bar repaint or not
For me repainting is the indicator presents the wrong algorithm. But here, all the signals generated by the SSChannel are the fractals. If you know fractal you understand the big dot circle and thick bar in the TradeMonitor. We take a signal when all indicators are in agreement. That's it.

To convince yourself on the DTDT system I suggest you to test only 1 or 2 weeks if the repainting is the big issue.

Sai Ram
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  • #3,250
  • Jun 13, 2015 6:14pm Jun 13, 2015 6:14pm
Quoting sriloba
{quote} For me repainting is the indicator presents the wrong algorithm. But here, all the signals generated by the SSChannel are the fractals. If you know fractal you understand the big dot circle and thick bar in the TradeMonitor. We take a signal when all indicators are in agreement. That's it. To convince yourself on the DTDT system I suggest you to test only 1 or 2 weeks if the repainting is the big issue. Sai Ram
thank you sriloba I mean if the big dot shown still Steady if the price goes up or down not repaint thats it
  • #3,251
  • Jun 13, 2015 6:24pm Jun 13, 2015 6:24pm
[quote=firas1980;8324969]{quote} thank you sriloba I mean if the big dot shown still Steady if the price goes up or down not repaint thats it[/quote

You test the DTDT system for a while then you will see that the big dot circle does a good job or not.


Sai Ram
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  • #3,252
  • Edited 7:00pm Jun 13, 2015 6:41pm | Edited 7:00pm
Good morning,

Please find the TMA slope ( trend ) indicator attached and use it with it's default settings. It is here for test purposes only.

It applies a 20 period TMA to the current, the next and the next after the next timeframe. When all 3 trends point into the same direction or are ranging, the trend is valid. The indi is not tested with Sai Ram's system. Please check if it adds value to your trading.

Best, Verified

indicator removed - repost soon
reposted - fixed visual issue
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  • #3,253
  • Jun 13, 2015 6:45pm Jun 13, 2015 6:45pm
Quoting firas1980
{quote} thank you sriloba I mean if the big dot shown still Steady if the price goes up or down not repaint thats it
If there is a big new, great impact on the currencies then if the big dot circle is formed and not far from the new then it will move until it finds the right reversal.

Sai Ram
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  • #3,254
  • Jun 13, 2015 7:03pm Jun 13, 2015 7:03pm
Hi Verified,

The TMA slope is amazing when use to determine the trend in H4. It is far better than the cross of MAs.

Can you make the indicator when the bar is below the zero line it paints red as trend bearish and bar above the zero line it paints blue as trend bullish.

Thanks in advance

Sai Ram
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  • #3,255
  • Jun 13, 2015 7:19pm Jun 13, 2015 7:19pm
^ sriloba, I don't know whether you are aware that TMA slope constantly recalculates ( repaints ). It presents a very different picture in real time.
I'm not entering the repainting Indi debate as I understand the nature of repainting indicators, and how they are used.
best wishes
  • #3,256
  • Jun 13, 2015 7:25pm Jun 13, 2015 7:25pm
Quoting HitTheBid
^ sriloba, I don't know whether you are aware that TMA slope constantly recalculates ( repaints ). It presents a very different picture in real time. I'm not entering the repainting Indi debate as I understand the nature of repainting indicators, and how they are used. best wishes
Oh! I don't know. But I will see it in action when the market opens.


Thanks


Sai Ram
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  • #3,257
  • Jun 13, 2015 7:31pm Jun 13, 2015 7:31pm
Good. lets see how it works when markets are open. Again, main purpose of the indi is to see if the current ( micro ) trend is aligned with higher timeframes. For this, the TMA is accurate . The text in the info corner is important.
  • #3,258
  • Edited 7:54pm Jun 13, 2015 7:43pm | Edited 7:54pm
Lets say I'm scalping M5. Up to now I had the M5 trend and the H4 trend. Hmm ...

Now I have the M5, M15 and M30 ( or H1 ) trend. M30, very close to M15 can be skipped by using the xM30 logic switch. In this case you get H1 instead. Ranging is respected too. When you switch timeframes, the higher timeframes are adjusted automatically. The TrendBand H4 is still there.

I guess it could help.

Best, verified
  • #3,259
  • Edited 8:02pm Jun 13, 2015 7:52pm | Edited 8:02pm
Here it's mtf tma slope modifed by myself. But I really dont recommand it ..slope is lag indicator.

And I really like the idea "wait dot appear in HTF". I analyze my trade last week. I found something interesting.

Below chart it's H4 ...blue dot line is 0.3 atr. Main line it's TMA 6

If I use same "RIPT" rule in HTF, I can avoid those fail singal. ( To avoid weak and fail uptrend signal ) H4 always up trend in EMA 5,8 cross

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here it's m5 entry example. The chart were repaint. I always follow DTDT HTF rule, wait down big dot appear and put trade outside RIPT. ( In pic, you saw entey were inside ript, because M5 TMA is down trend. So TMA repaint )
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I think I get whole idea right now!

for next week. I'm going to use same rule in HTF. But I will set ript range to be 0.25 or 0.3 ATR in HTF ( H4 )

Here it's total trade I made last week. So far so good, Dont look EURUSD. I did little grid trade ...but failed. I stupid.


Sorry for bad english

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  • #3,260
  • Edited 8:16pm Jun 13, 2015 8:00pm | Edited 8:16pm
Quoting MrGray
Here it's mtf tma slope modifed by myself. But I really dont recommand it ..slope is lag indicator. And I really like the idea "wait dot appear in HTF". I analyze my trade last week. I found something interesting. Below chart it's H4 ...blue dot line is 0.3 atr If I use same "RIPT" rule in HTF, I can avoid those fail singal. ( To avoid weak and fail uptrend signal ) H4 always up trend in EMA 5,8 cross {image} here it's m5 entry example. The chart were repaint. I always follow DTDT HTF rule, wait down big dot appear and put trade outside RIPT. (...
Hi, appreciated . TMA slope does not replace anything, it is an add on. The circles are still used, everything we have is still used. I would never skip or try to skip the TMA or SS Channel indicator. In fact, they improved my trading a lot.

I used TMA before this thread already.

Because of Sai Ram I use SS Channel now as well .

Best, V
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