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  • #2,261
  • May 30, 2015 9:31am May 30, 2015 9:31am
Quoting verified
{quote} at this point, it's not easy for me to say anything. what i'd like to say is that you are one of the most trustworthy persons i could meet in my life and that i hope that we can talk, discuss and work together for a long time and achieve personal goals we have. man, i did think about this sentence ... enjoy your weekend !!! best regards, verified.
You and I are the sons of God. So having a truth in each other is a paramount for the success of this business.

I give you the best ideas to implement in the IT tool and you build it like a winner and very kind to the need ones in this thread.

May God bless you and others traders


BTW, my coffee is delicious !


Sai Ram
Being a fxtrader is not easy. Ones must working hard.
  • #2,262
  • May 30, 2015 9:45am May 30, 2015 9:45am
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{quote} Hmmm ... you have more insight about the indi ? Never heared about that but maybe, you never know. Look, what I would like to achieve is to be about 75% accurate with a technical process only, no trader involved. This is very, very hard to achieve and I don't know if it's even possibe. However, the methods used here are pretty damn good. I tell you why it's so hard. When I look at my girlfriend ( EURUSD ) I can see in one blink of an eye whether it's a good time for trading or not. I can see the overall trend, S/R lines, the CPP, the...
Hi V

I respect your work alongside Sri in this thread.... it's positive for everyone.

However, you have said that no indicators and no fancy stuff, etc, but there have been a plethora of indcator attachments in the paperclip, which to me seems to contradict what you have just said.

I think the key is to blend reliable indicators (whatever the preference is) and not to double up with multiple indies, which are essentially informing of the same signal, and which simply ends up more confusing imo. And then ally that with PA, to keep it nice and simple, but powerful.

Just my 2 cents

Cheers

LL
  • #2,263
  • May 30, 2015 10:03am May 30, 2015 10:03am
Quoting Landline
{quote} Hi V I respect your work alongside Sri in this thread.... it's positive for everyone. However, you have said that no indicators and no fancy stuff, etc, but there have been a plethora of indcator attachments in the paperclip, which to me seems to contradict what you have just said. I think the key is to blend reliable indicators (whatever the preference is) and not to double up with multiple indies, which are essentially informing of the same signal, and which simply ends up more confusing imo. And then ally that with PA, to keep it nice...
I have been trading with price action + 1 fancy indicator but the result is unexpected.

Some peoples are very good with eyesball but others like me need a necessary indications to accomplish the same task as others do.

Our chart seems messy but if you analyse peace by peace then there is no problem at all.

So each trader has his own personality and I can tell you it is very important to know yourself.

Keep it nice and simple, but powerful if you know how to manage it methodically.

Sai Ram
Being a fxtrader is not easy. Ones must working hard.
  • #2,264
  • May 30, 2015 10:05am May 30, 2015 10:05am
Quoting Landline
{quote} Hi V I respect your work alongside Sri in this thread.... it's positive for everyone. However, you have said that no indicators and no fancy stuff, etc, but there have been a plethora of indcator attachments in the paperclip, which to me seems to contradict what you have just said. I think the key is to blend reliable indicators (whatever the preference is) and not to double up with multiple indies, which are essentially informing of the same signal, and which simply ends up more confusing imo. And then ally that with PA, to keep it nice...
Hi LL,

Thank you for your reply. If I did leave room for contradiction I'm sorry, English is not my first language.

What I tried to express is that, in my limited point of view, every technical system needs a trading brain on top of it. I can't refer to myself, I'm not the most knowledgeable Trader but I know a lot about technology.

Just one example. A system performs used by one trader, it does not perform used by another one. I'd bet that the traders would not know why. It's what they do by intuition. So I say, lets use our very nice trading tool but lets learn about the markets as well. It's we who trade, not the systems.

Best Regards, Verified.
  • #2,265
  • May 30, 2015 10:21am May 30, 2015 10:21am
Hi Sri and V

Please don't misunderstand, I'm trying to be constructively critical for improvements sake...that' s my only objective.

When I looked at your systems initially, I liked some of the innovative indicators used, and thought that I could carefully blend some of them with optimised indicatior parameters to complement what I was using already.

It was clear to me, that a "doubling up" of indicators was apparent, albeit in a different format, which as I said previously said, could be confusing, (especially for the less experienced traders) and uses up precious real estate.

An example for instance, are the recent indies that V has introduced, which are all very good, but I find that the Gann HIlo Histo which prevails on my charts, reflects all of those anyway, so it wouldn't make sense to me to "double up or treble up" as I have said.

Ur opinion though matters, and I'd be keen to hear what you guys think

Cheers

LL
  • #2,266
  • May 30, 2015 10:40am May 30, 2015 10:40am
Quoting Landline
Hi Sri and V Please don't misunderstand, I'm trying to be constructively critical for improvements sake...that' s my only objective. When I looked at your systems initially, I liked some of the innovative indicators used, and thought that I could carefully blend some of them with optimised indicatior parameters to complement what I was using already. It was clear to me, that a "doubling up" of indicators was apparent, albeit in a different format, which as I said previously said, could be confusing, (especially for the less experienced traders)...
Hi,

You are constructive and I appreciate to read your input and always take into consideration if it could help or not from the technical point of view. I cannot do this for the trading performance ( I clearly say this again and again ).

Now, what I can see ( I backtest a lot as well, visually ) is that the performance of the methods used in this thread is extremely good and I don't want to canibalize it with any hard breaks. I contributed with bar indicators instead of analogue ones and if we see indicators killing system performance, I try to fix them. Discussions about TMA trend, ok. Now I come up with monitoring support to help all of us not to miss trades, last but not least to help myself as well. So far nothing really innovative or newsbreaking.

My attitude is to let everything develop and grow. We can be there in 2 weeks, we can be there in 2 years. Then I may come up with something to reduce overload ( which I can't see as of now ). ATM I even could not say something can be done more effective or not. It's important to understand why and how I do what I do. There is zero room from my side for not following the given strategies. There is a little bit room for making trading life more easy.

Best Regards, Verified
  • #2,267
  • Edited 2:54pm May 30, 2015 10:51am | Edited 2:54pm
Quoting Landline
Hi Sri and V Please don't misunderstand, I'm trying to be constructively critical for improvements sake...that' s my only objective. When I looked at your systems initially, I liked some of the innovative indicators used, and thought that I could carefully blend some of them with optimised indicatior parameters to complement what I was using already. It was clear to me, that a "doubling up" of indicators was apparent, albeit in a different format, which as I said previously said, could be confusing, (especially for the less experienced traders)...
Now, we are the same wave. Your advices are precious for me and I thank you. Here, I use top down analysis from H4 to M5.

In H4 only price + fractal to built channel by hand and identify the cycle high or low + 1 fancy indicator which is very important for the strategy.

M15 : A lot of stuffs because it is a core analysis before enter a trade --

Ex.: I use in M15

Money Flow Index (MFI ) :
MFI is a momentum indicator that measures the strength of money in and out of a security. Money flow can be excellent for identifying overbought and oversold positions. It is similar to the Relative Strength Index (RSI). The difference is that the MFI also accounts for volume, whereas the RSI only incorporates prices.

RSI, STOC and MFI are the momentum indicators but their tasks differ a little bit but it is very important for us


M5: indicators necessary to enter a trade with more confidence

Sai ram
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  • #2,268
  • May 30, 2015 10:51am May 30, 2015 10:51am
Quoting verified
{quote} Hi, You are constructive and I appreciate to read your input and always take into consideration if it could help or not from the technical point of view. I cannot do this for the trading performance ( I clearly say this again and again ). Now, what I can see ( I backtest a lot as well, visually ) is that the performance of the methods used in this thread is extremely good and I don't want to canibalize it with any hard breaks. I contributed with bar indicators instead of analogue ones and if we see indicators killing system performance,...
Hi V

They are well chosen and wise words.

I'm glad that you can understand where I was coming from, and as you have said, system refinements take time of course.

Keep going, you're doing a fine job.

Cheers

LL
  • #2,269
  • Edited 11:18am May 30, 2015 11:03am | Edited 11:18am
Hello Sri, Veri, and other Leading Contributors......!!!

You leaders are doing great jobs.....have already done marvelous jobs.....
I was playing in forex total of 9 months.... six months in DEMO and last three months in LIVE accounts...
Tried a lot different ways but result is losing or hedging....
bit of stress and uneasy life and time....

But during the last 2-3 weeks... after going through all pages of this tread...
BECAUSE OF THE FULL DEDICATION OF SRI LOBA AND LEADERS......
BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIES INVESTIGATED and SUGGESTED BY SRI LOBA AND LEADERS....
BECAUSE OF THE INDICATORS AND TEMPLATES DONATED TO READERS BY SRI LOBA AND LEADERS.....

Newbies like me now able to 75 to 95 percent LIMIT/JUDGES/FORECAST the FOREX's PLAYING RANGES...
At a time, I am just searching around 8 to 20 pips only.....
I feel relax and cool... but I know its very risky but I feel LOT COMFORTABLE coz of Sri Loba's way of doing - DTDT,
Normally before I enter a trade using DTDT and I check it with the "ComeSurfingFxWithMeMyfriends" set up for further confirmation...

and then GRAB opportunity...
As Sri Loba suggested ... i now more focused on EURJPY & GBPUSD and during UK market open period ...

but still lot to learn... and very happy still day by day fine tuning the result....
I like very much #POST 2211 its a VERY GOOD FINE TUNING STRATEGY.....

by the way..... my last TEN consecutive trades were WINNING ones....
out of them 2 trades were close just above the BE...
normally I use to close trade manually.....
only 30% percent or so trades go and hits TP.....
may I am not correct I used to trade 1M chart mostly [feel like not professional but....... ]

By now my regretting thing is ....early exit but thats soooooooooo fine..... compared to losing history.....

Thx Sri Loba and All Great supporters for Him.....
  • #2,270
  • May 30, 2015 11:14am May 30, 2015 11:14am
Quoting sriloba
{quote} Now, we are the same wave. Your advices are precious for me and I thank you. Here, I use top down analysis from H4 to M5. In H4 only price + fractal to built channel by hand and identify the cycle high or low + 1 fancy indicator which is very important for the strategy. M15 : A lot of stuffs because it is a core analysis before enter a trade -- Ex.: I use in M15, Money Flow Index (MFI ) : MFI is a momentum indicator that measures the strength of money in and out of a security. Money flow can be excellent for identifying overbought and oversold...
Hi Sri,

I understand ur charts no problem, but my initial point is maintained, I use 1 window, whereas you use 3, and multiple indicators both in the windows and your main chart, yet we both arrive at the same conclusion of price direction!

I apply top down analysis as well, again using the same template, because although whilst the t/f may be different, the signals generated against different t/f remain reliable.

Simplifying is the name of the game so far as I am concerned, and this is the area that I originally started in this very good discussion. Many indicators, doesn't necessarily improve the quality of a signal, and in fact can lead to further indecision I think, and the purpose of your thread is to give all the members the easiest, yet most profitable method that you can, which is why I felt that my comments could be food for thought of rationalising the amount of indicators and actually improving the the set ups visually as a result, with a view to simplicity.

Anyway, as I said to V, your contributions have been great for everyone, so keep up the good work.

Cheers

LL
  • #2,271
  • May 30, 2015 11:14am May 30, 2015 11:14am
Quoting imdisaait
Hello Sri, Veri, and other Leading Contributors......!!! You leaders are doing great jobs.....have already done marvelous jobs..... I was playing in forex total of 9 months.... six months in DEMO and last three months in LIVE accounts... Tried a lot different ways but result is lossing or hedging.... bit of stress and uneasy life and time.... But during the last 2-3 weeks... after going through all pages of this tread... BECAUSE OF THE FULL DEDICATION OF SRI BOLA AND LEADERS...... BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIES INVESTIGATED and SUGGESTED BY...
Namaste Im,

Thank for your kind word. Please can you correct my name Sribola but SriLoba.

Sai Ram
Being a fxtrader is not easy. Ones must working hard.
  • #2,272
  • May 30, 2015 11:19am May 30, 2015 11:19am
Quoting sriloba
{quote} Namaste Im, Thank for your kind word. Please can you correct my name Sribola but SriLoba. Sai Ram

Ooooopsss....
Sorry! SRI LOBA

I made it correct in my previous post....!!!
IM
  • #2,273
  • May 30, 2015 5:36pm May 30, 2015 5:36pm
Quoting sriloba
{quote} Now, we are the same wave. Your advices are precious for me and I thank you. Here, I use top down analysis from H4 to M5. In H4 only price + fractal to built channel by hand and identify the cycle high or low + 1 fancy indicator which is very important for the strategy. M15 : A lot of stuffs because it is a core analysis before enter a trade -- Ex.: I use in M15 Money Flow Index (MFI ) : MFI is a momentum indicator that measures the strength of money in and out of a security. Money flow can be excellent for identifying overbought and oversold...
Sriloba,

Could you post your 3 templates and indicators (if different)?

Thanks
  • #2,274
  • Edited 11:48pm May 30, 2015 11:05pm | Edited 11:48pm
Hi Ladies and Gentlemen

Here is v1.01 of the Trade Monitor. A lot has changed ( including it's name ) but I think it makes sense and will help us.

The files:

- SSChannel is v1.02 I posted yesterday already. It's here to have a complete set. It replaces renko_street channel
- TMA must be updated. There is a new buffer for the TMA band trend slope
- TMA TradeMonitor is the Monitor itself. It calls SSChannel and TMA
- red_alert.zip contains a red_alert.wav file. It's used by default from the Trade Monitor for alerting. You can change the settings to whatever wav file you want
( if you want to use the file, you must copy it - the unzipped wav file - to the MT4 Sound file directory. It's the same directory where you can find the sound files of MT4 itself ).

The Monitor:

Purpose is to alert early when we see a potential reversal at the border or outside the TMA channel and thus will not likely miss a trade. It ignores trends ( to don't miss a signal ) and signals every potential reversal according to Sai Ram's rules. However, it shows a trend - the trend of the TMA itself. This is new and may provide new opportunities.

IMO we can start with that. It's very hard to test alerting ( Sound, message, notification, etc. ) on the weekend ( markets are closed and MT4 does not alert in strategy tester ). So it's possible we could see a bug there. If so, I'll correct it immediately.

Best Regards,
Verified
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  • #2,275
  • May 30, 2015 11:22pm May 30, 2015 11:22pm
Quoting verified
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Can you give me a briefing on the color of Trade monitor


It seems very professional.

Great job, buddy!


Sai Ram
Being a fxtrader is not easy. Ones must working hard.
  • #2,276
  • May 30, 2015 11:54pm May 30, 2015 11:54pm
Quoting sriloba
{quote} Can you give me a briefing on the color of Trade monitor It seems very professional. Great job, buddy! Sai Ram
Hi Sai Ram,

Color Coding:

Blue: TMA trend is up
Red: TMA trend is down
Yellow: Early Signal for Price reversal to down
Lime: Early Signal for Price reversal to up

Sometime the TMA repaints heavily, therefore the monitor can look strange in the history. It only looks strange, the Monitor works .

Best Regards,
Verified
  • #2,277
  • May 30, 2015 11:58pm May 30, 2015 11:58pm
Quoting verified
Hi Ladies and Gentlemen Here is v1.01 of the Trade Monitor. A lot has changed ( including it's name ) but I think it makes sense and will help us. The files: - SSChannel is v1.02 I posted yesterday already. It's here to have a complete set. It replaces renko_street channel - TMA must be updated. There is a new buffer for the TMA band trend slope - TMA TradeMonitor is the Monitor itself. It calls SSChannel and TMA - red_alert.zip contains a red_alert.wav file. It's used by default from the Trade Monitor for alerting. You can change the settings...
Absolutely beautiful stuff V. So yellow is "the signal" and red and blue is telling us the TMA trend down/up right? Beat me to it V sorry. Your post wasn't there when I tried to impart of little knowledge I will delete this post shortly.
  • #2,278
  • May 30, 2015 11:58pm May 30, 2015 11:58pm
hi all
i am amaze from you guys you are working so hard to make a very successful system with innovation no stop
congratulations again
cheers
  • #2,279
  • Edited 12:13am May 31, 2015 12:01am | Edited 12:13am
Quoting gwindy
{quote} Absolutely beautiful stuff V. So yellow is "the signal" and red and blue is telling us the TMA trend down/up right?
TMA trend, YES.

Yellow = Attention !!! Price is about or may turn to down soon ***
Lime = Attention !!! Price is about or may turn to up soon ***

*** this is the right time to look at the charts again and verify the probability of entries by Sai Ram's methods. The signals are no recommondation as of now. For this we must learn more about additional rules and can improve the Monitor accordingly. It's only a starting point ATM.

red_alert.wav = wake me up
  • #2,280
  • May 31, 2015 12:37am May 31, 2015 12:37am
Quoting ellenbrook
hi all i am amaze from you guys you are working so hard to make a very successful system with innovation no stop congratulations again cheers
Thank you for your congratulations . I'm convinced about what we are doing here.

Best, Verified
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