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  • #41
  • May 12, 2015 6:12am May 12, 2015 6:12am
Short NZDCAD @ .8880, s/l .8910 20:1 leverage. Will update when I add.
  • #42
  • May 12, 2015 6:41am May 12, 2015 6:41am
Very interesting threat!
  • #43
  • May 12, 2015 7:21am May 12, 2015 7:21am
Quoting Profit Daily
Short NZDCAD @ .8880, s/l .8910 20:1 leverage. Will update when I add.
Was this an Alien system trade? If so, did you take it off the higher time frames? Do you have a target area?
  • #44
  • May 12, 2015 7:41am May 12, 2015 7:41am
Quoting smnitro1
{quote} Was this an Alien system trade? If so, did you take it off the higher time frames? Do you have a target area?
90% of my trades are based on alien system. This was a 1HR DS. I have added at .8840, so now 40:1 leverage avg. price .8860, stops at be. Risk free trade shooting for .8760. As is, will result in 40% but will probably add one more time. Free trade for 40%, can't ask for much more.
  • #45
  • May 12, 2015 12:14pm May 12, 2015 12:14pm
Quoting Profit Daily
{quote} 90% of my trades are based on alien system. This was a 1HR DS. I have added at .8840, so now 40:1 leverage avg. price .8860, stops at be. Risk free trade shooting for .8760. As is, will result in 40% but will probably add one more time. Free trade for 40%, can't ask for much more.
Keep it up!
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  • #46
  • May 13, 2015 6:51am May 13, 2015 6:51am
Quoting Profit Daily
{quote} 90% of my trades are based on alien system. This was a 1HR DS. I have added at .8840, so now 40:1 leverage avg. price .8860, stops at be. Risk free trade shooting for .8760. As is, will result in 40% but will probably add one more time. Free trade for 40%, can't ask for much more.
Stopped at be yesterday after NZD news. Spiked down to .8785, should have closed there. Now long EURJPY @ 134.98 with 20:1, stop @ 134.68.
  • #47
  • May 13, 2015 7:54am May 13, 2015 7:54am
I am new in Forex and also in this forum. Could you please post an example of your trading setup and explain in the chart how you enter and re-enter the trade?
  • #48
  • May 13, 2015 8:09am May 13, 2015 8:09am
Quoting YaRazzaku
I am new in Forex and also in this forum. Could you please post an example of your trading setup and explain in the chart how you enter and re-enter the trade?
The thread is simply devoted to demonstrating how to take a winning system and compound gains by using high leverage. If you are new, you do not want to attempt this as you will lose your money quickly. You need to develop a winning edge before trading in this manner. I highly recommend forex alien's system. I would read that thread atleast twice before trading live. It will save you 3-4 years of learning and blowing accounts.
  • #49
  • May 19, 2015 2:58pm May 19, 2015 2:58pm
I dont understand how you say you add a second position and then suddenly you move stops to BE? i mean how are you moving the stop to BE if you have just added your second entry? sure your first entry could be moved to BE but how are you instantly moving your second to BE too???
  • #50
  • May 19, 2015 3:56pm May 19, 2015 3:56pm
tight stop loss can be the answer .choosing high safe turning points after the move have been well established
have a nice day all
focus while relaxed to see better
  • #51
  • May 19, 2015 4:15pm May 19, 2015 4:15pm
Quoting orabi
tight stop loss can be the answer .choosing high safe turning points after the move have been well established have a nice day all
That was an unsatisfactory answer.
  • #52
  • May 19, 2015 4:37pm May 19, 2015 4:37pm
Quoting TerryTibbs
{quote} That was an unsatisfactory answer.
Stops at BE in this case means having your minimum net P/L on all positions at zero. For example, if you open a long at 1.10 and then open another at 1.20 (with the same lot size), placing your stops at 1.15 gives you a risk-free trade.
  • #53
  • May 19, 2015 4:38pm May 19, 2015 4:38pm
Quoting TerryTibbs
{quote} That was an unsatisfactory answer.
thank you sir
i use this three steps
1-high possibility turning point
2-established move i reached some numbers like more then 5 pips enter target 12 pips then 20 then 50 i got the numbers from a long study of numbers
3-tight stop loss some times i use it manually i interfere manually
there is another away for high net worth accounts i used once and i succeed in making 18000$ in less than a minute
it is buying high lots in an established direction but it is so risky i reached about 60 lots in just couple of seconds and i took few pips but i managed to make 18000$ in just seconds as i said
i hope this answer will satisfy you sir if not i am sorry and i wish i could add more i have non unfortunately
all have a nice day
focus while relaxed to see better
  • #54
  • May 19, 2015 5:24pm May 19, 2015 5:24pm
Quoting pjxtan
{quote} Stops at BE in this case means having your minimum net P/L on all positions at zero. For example, if you open a long at 1.10 and then open another at 1.20 (with the same lot size), placing your stops at 1.15 gives you a risk-free trade.
This is what i suspected was going on. However, i'm not so sure this can work consistently, surely? i mean moving your average SL to BE would mean potentially giving up your gains (READ: losing your gain on your first trade) if the trade were to turn and hit that "BE". You've effectively "lost" a trade now in this scenario.
  • #55
  • May 19, 2015 5:26pm May 19, 2015 5:26pm
Quoting orabi
{quote} thank you sir i use this three steps 1-high possibility turning point 2-established move i reached some numbers like more then 5 pips enter target 12 pips then 20 then 50 i got the numbers from a long study of numbers 3-tight stop loss some times i use it manually i interfere manually there is another away for high net worth accounts i used once and i succeed in making 18000$ in less than a minute it is buying high lots in an established direction but it is so risky i reached about 60 lots in just couple of seconds and i took few pips...
I appreciate your time in answering back but it does appear OP uses a different technique. 60 lots even on a smal pip change would be pretty big! thats some high stakes trading you are doing there. Take care.
  • #56
  • May 19, 2015 5:33pm May 19, 2015 5:33pm
Quoting TerryTibbs
{quote} I appreciate your time in answering back but it does appear OP uses a different technique. 60 lots even on a smal pip change would be pretty big! thats some high stakes trading you are doing there. Take care.
Thank you sir have a nice day please
focus while relaxed to see better
  • #57
  • May 19, 2015 7:47pm May 19, 2015 7:47pm
Quoting pjxtan
{quote} Stops at BE in this case means having your minimum net P/L on all positions at zero. For example, if you open a long at 1.10 and then open another at 1.20 (with the same lot size), placing your stops at 1.15 gives you a risk-free trade.
This is exactly correct. I trade a normal account as well as this one. Yes, a high percentage of trades get stopped out at be. However, when you have a strong trend and make 60, 100, 150% on a trade, it still grows much faster than my normal account. My largest gain on a trade was 640% on a gbpaud short. This method works best with pairs with large ADR- EURAUD, GBPAUD, EURJPY, GBPJPY, EURCAD, GBPCAD, etc.... It's not for EURGBP
  • #58
  • May 20, 2015 4:53am May 20, 2015 4:53am
Quoting TerryTibbs
{quote} This is what i suspected was going on. However, i'm not so sure this can work consistently, surely? i mean moving your average SL to BE would mean potentially giving up your gains (READ: losing your gain on your first trade) if the trade were to turn and hit that "BE". You've effectively "lost" a trade now in this scenario.
Well, even if you have the mindset that a loss of unrealized profit constitutes an "actual" loss (which I don't entirely disagree with, to be honest) I guess the idea is to reduce the probability of winning the trade in exchange for greatly increasing its profit potential. Kind of like a baseball player "swinging for the fences".

Quoting Profit Daily
{quote} This is exactly correct. I trade a normal account as well as this one. Yes, a high percentage of trades get stopped out at be. However, when you have a strong trend and make 60, 100, 150% on a trade, it still grows much faster than my normal account. My largest gain on a trade was 640% on a gbpaud short. This method works best with pairs with large ADR- EURAUD, GBPAUD, EURJPY, GBPJPY, EURCAD, GBPCAD, etc.... It's not for EURGBP
  • #59
  • Jun 5, 2015 7:34am Jun 5, 2015 7:34am
After several days of trial and error, it looks as if I have finally figured out how to create and link the trade explorer. Based on others suggestions as well as my inability to post trades in a timely manner, I felt the explorer would be best to demonstrate how to compound winning trades. Keep in mind, you need your own winning system, as this is just a way of maximizing gains on an already profitable trading strategy.
  • #60
  • Jun 7, 2015 9:52am Jun 7, 2015 9:52am
Interesting thread, PD. Subscribed!
By the way, someone in this thread have asked about your broker earlier. Can you please answer this question if you don't mind?
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