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  • #141
  • Apr 24, 2015 12:40pm Apr 24, 2015 12:40pm
Quoting Landline
{quote} I don't think you looked very hard...anyway here it is LL {file}
setting default?
  • #142
  • Apr 25, 2015 10:40am Apr 25, 2015 10:40am
I mean no disrespect but what is the difference about this strategy from any other that uses martingale. Does the system really matter that mutch or is it all depend on the martingale MM

Best regards
  • #143
  • Apr 25, 2015 10:48am Apr 25, 2015 10:48am
Quoting jgadefelth
I mean no disrespect but what is the difference about this strategy from any other that uses martingale. Does the system really matter that mutch or is it all depend on the martingale MM Best regards
The money managment!
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  • #144
  • Apr 25, 2015 10:51am Apr 25, 2015 10:51am
In May start a calculation for 3 months from 500 $!
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  • #145
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:00am Apr 25, 2015 11:00am
Quoting vgyuszko
{quote} The money managment!

Explain please i know that martingale is when one increase after a losing trade. some use it also the other way around. With martingale am sure you can have great success for several mounth but on long term ?and are you willing to risk a bigger account then 500 what about 10k if we get there or 100k ? Please if i missunderstand something explain.

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  • #146
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:07am Apr 25, 2015 11:07am
Quoting jgadefelth
{quote} Explain please i know that martingale is when one increase after a losing trade. some use it also the other way around. With martingale am sure you can have great success for several mounth but on long term ?and are you willing to risk a bigger account then 500 what about 10k if we get there or 100k ? Please if i missunderstand something explain. Best regards
watch the forum
good weekend!
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  • #147
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:16am Apr 25, 2015 11:16am
Quoting vgyuszko
{quote} watch the forum good weekend!

Ok thanks and a good weekend for you and the rest here at FF also.

Best regards
  • #148
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:21am Apr 25, 2015 11:21am
Interesting thread and system.... Subscribed
Vgyuszko I don't have a linear weighted ave on my chart could I use simply a 30 weighted MA and 9 EMA for the cross?
And only from the 15 min chart?
  • #149
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:32am Apr 25, 2015 11:32am
Hi all,

Surely our combined objective is to gain an edge in the market first and foremost by developing a trading strategy that is easy to apply and yet robust enough to trade before any talk of doubling up trades etc.

On that basis, VG has been kind enough to start the ball rolling by starting a thread with a neat concept/idea, but which of course can be improved upon I believe, and for that reason we should all be grateful to him and continue to help to refine and hone his original method until we have a fully working, simple and practical system that we can all profit from long term.
  • #150
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:45am Apr 25, 2015 11:45am
No disrespect to thread starter I am just going to share my opinion whatever its worth

MA crossovers existed in the market for decades nothing new.It works until it does not.When it works it has nothing to do with any MA crossover but you were in good luck being on the right side of ORDER flow.
Market makers are keenly aware that average joe retail trader uses same old ideas and therefore target stops exactly where they are to create liquidity for their large orders!
This concept is hard for new traders to grasp but your indicators are irrelevant including all MA's.Trick is to understand where exhaustion levels are and for that one needs some harmonics knowledge and market news sentiment grasp as well.
Article worth reading
http://orderflowforex.com/order-flow...-flow-trading/
Good luck
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #151
  • Apr 25, 2015 11:53am Apr 25, 2015 11:53am
Quoting Davit
No disrespect to thread starter I am just going to share my opinion whatever its worth MA crossovers existed in the market for decades nothing new.It works until it does not.When it works it has nothing to do with any MA crossover but you were in good luck being on the right side of ORDER flow. Market makers are keenly aware that average joe retail trader uses same old ideas and therefore target stops exactly where they are to create liquidity for their large orders! This concept is hard for new traders to grasp but your indicators are irrelevant...
Hi,

That's precisely why we need to hone the method, to ensure as best we can that enough (but not too many!) supporting signals are present to confirm and support the likelihood of a positive trade.
  • #152
  • Apr 25, 2015 12:01pm Apr 25, 2015 12:01pm
Quoting Landline
{quote} Hi, That's precisely why we need to hone the method, to ensure as best we can that enough (but not too many!) supporting signals are present to confirm and support the likelihood of a positive trade.
Hi Landline
It is my experience and many experience traders as well that building a model based on MA cross overs is flawed.
You can add many deflecting ideas to protect yourself but unless one understand WHY and HOW price moves then you will be forever in fish tank thinking its the ocean.
I am trying to convey something profound which comes from years of trading experience.
When an artist is trying to draw the human figure he 1st tries to see where the skeleton is and what it does before doing the shading on the skin.
Anyway do what works for you.Just tried to help others to see the bigger picture
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #153
  • Apr 25, 2015 12:18pm Apr 25, 2015 12:18pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} Hi Landline It is my experience and many experience traders as well that building a model based on MA cross overs is flawed. You can add many deflecting ideas to protect yourself but unless one understand WHY and HOW price moves then you will be forever in fish tank thinking its the ocean. I am trying to convey something profound which comes from years of trading experience. When an artist is trying to draw the human figure he 1st tries to see where the skeleton is and what it does before doing the shading on the skin. Anyway do what works...
Hi Davit,

Your comments are noted thank you, but are you therefore suggesting that the thread starter ought to abandon his idea in favour of harmonics instead?

If so, then pretty much every line/indicator based thread in FF should be abandoned also if your theory is correct.

Good luck in your trading though

Cheers LL
  • #154
  • Apr 25, 2015 12:37pm Apr 25, 2015 12:37pm
Quoting Landline
{quote} Hi Davit, Your comments are noted thank you, but are you therefore suggesting that the thread starter ought to abandon his idea in favour of harmonics instead? If so, then pretty much every line/indicator based thread in FF should be abandoned also if your theory is correct. Good luck in your trading though Cheers LL
One can trade whatever works .End results are profits in long term.To this end one must know why X an Y happen and it does not happen based on any MA movement or crossover.
I just tried to shed light that knowing how market moves is lot more critical then blindly looking at random MA cross over.
You noticed these systems you mentioned most are dead.
Trade as you see fit.Good luck
In trading, you have to be defensive and aggressive at the same time
  • #155
  • Apr 25, 2015 1:03pm Apr 25, 2015 1:03pm
Quoting Davit
{quote} One can trade whatever works .End results are profits in long term.To this end one must know why X an Y happen and it does not happen based on any MA movement or crossover. I just tried to shed light that knowing how market moves is lot more critical then blindly looking at random MA cross over. You noticed these systems you mentioned most are dead. Trade as you see fit.Good luck
Improvements to the basic system originally outlined by VG are indeed necessary to make it a viable method, and that is the goal, and one to which I'll happily contribute towards for now. Therefore imo, it is not "blindly" looking at "random" MA cross over as you have stated, but carefully rationalising likelihoods instead with select indicators and pa in tandem.

Anyway, thanks for your time...good luck to you.
  • #156
  • Apr 25, 2015 1:56pm Apr 25, 2015 1:56pm
Davit, did you pay for the course? If you are willing to say what you think of it, please do.

Quoting Davit
No disrespect to thread starter I am just going to share my opinion whatever its worth MA crossovers existed in the market for decades nothing new.It works until it does not.When it works it has nothing to do with any MA crossover but you were in good luck being on the right side of ORDER flow. Market makers are keenly aware that average joe retail trader uses same old ideas and therefore target stops exactly where they are to create liquidity for their large orders! This concept is hard for new traders to grasp but your indicators are irrelevant...
  • #157
  • Apr 25, 2015 2:00pm Apr 25, 2015 2:00pm
Quoting Greenstar
Davit, did you pay for the course? If you are willing to say what you think of it, please do. {quote}

i think a pm would help you better and also stay to the topic in this thread.

Best regards
  • #158
  • Edited 2:20am Apr 26, 2015 1:31am | Edited 2:20am
Quoting TessiaFx
Interesting thread and system.... Subscribed Vgyuszko I don't have a linear weighted ave on my chart could I use simply a 30 weighted MA and 9 EMA for the cross? And only from the 15 min chart?
see post 101,yes only M15
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  • #159
  • Apr 26, 2015 5:54am Apr 26, 2015 5:54am
Quoting vgyuszko
{quote} see post 101,yes only M15
Hi vg

A new week ahead, and hopefully we can all pick up a few decent trades.

I plan to post a few charts/trades over the week, against various t/fs just to check out how the strategy performs if thats ok with you?

LL
  • #160
  • Apr 26, 2015 6:14am Apr 26, 2015 6:14am
Quoting Davit
No disrespect to thread starter I am just going to share my opinion whatever its worth MA crossovers existed in the market for decades nothing new.It works until it does not.When it works it has nothing to do with any MA crossover but you were in good luck being on the right side of ORDER flow. Market makers are keenly aware that average joe retail trader uses same old ideas and therefore target stops exactly where they are to create liquidity for their large orders! This concept is hard for new traders to grasp but your indicators are irrelevant...
Yep, have to agree with Davit....the forums have a graveyard of ema based crossover threads but a lot has to do with how badly moving averages lag as well; the trader usually gets in too late and the move has already occurred and momentum has been lost or it turns out to be a headfake...........that being said..........here is a "Zero Lag" ema............might help in giving an edge...enjoy!
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