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  • #21
  • Feb 18, 2015 3:46pm Feb 18, 2015 3:46pm
Quoting rubinsingh
On Dukascopy I see 200m+ easily,I suppose must be lot lot more if you use EBS/Reuters or Deutsche Bank which is the king of interbank market.

EBS is in fact connected to Dukascopy. That's why you see such large liquidity at Dukascopy.

http://www.e-forex.net/news/e-FX+New...FX+Marketplace
Forex is a losers game.
  • #22
  • Mar 15, 2015 11:22am Mar 15, 2015 11:22am
Quoting dancingphil
Trading at 200:1 leveraged is required. Hedging functionality required. I simply want to know which brokers have what maximum aggregated lots per side of a trade in their rules to decide the leverage level. Eg, total of open sell trades or total of open buy trades. My account includes those clients I trade for. The issue is becoming a problem for me. One broker recently pointed out to me that if I exceed 200 lots of either buy or sell, that my leverage will auto-drop down to 100:1. That if I then exceeded 300 lots of either buy or sell then it will...

I know this is a bit old, but I thought I'd lend some insight to those still curious about this topic. Some brokerages will offer laddered pricing to those looking to trade higher levels. It is not uncommon for a trader to be looking to trade these big sizes, they do exist quite frequently (in terms of a retail trader). Laddered pricing will effectively give you different costs depending on your trade size - and if you accept the pricing, you can trade away. Most brokers will work with a pool of liquidity providers - these relationships are mutually beneficial to both parties, but in some cases there simply isn't the liquidity there within that specific brokers liquidity pool at the same price. In this case, the ladder comes into play, and there are always other options like reducing leverage or getting access to outside liquidity if needed. There's always a price being offered somewhere.

Limits with my firm are always flexible and negotiable based on what the trader is looking for. Once a trade starts tracking towards 1B, you might get a call.
  • #23
  • Mar 18, 2015 4:03am Mar 18, 2015 4:03am
Quoting johnrambofx
ECN brokers will usually be able to take larger lot sizes than market marker brokers.

I guess because of bigger liquidity potential of ECN brokers (matching sources). Traders are offered DMA there but doubt that DMA is possible there with small deposits as orders less than a one standard lot will be executed in hybrid way. As I understand in ECN case if big volume order can't be executed as a whole it's splitted up and matched separately (correct me if I'm wrong). I've never traded more than 5 lots on Tickmill classic ECN, but still big lot orders goes significantly better via ECN processing in terms of slippage.
  • #24
  • Mar 18, 2015 2:24pm Mar 18, 2015 2:24pm
Quoting leebsurag
{quote} I guess because of bigger liquidity potential of ECN brokers (matching sources). Traders are offered DMA there but doubt that DMA is possible there with small deposits as orders less than a one standard lot will be executed in hybrid way. As I understand in ECN case if big volume order can't be executed as a whole it's splitted up and matched separately (correct me if I'm wrong). I've never traded more than 5 lots on Tickmill classic ECN, but still big lot orders goes significantly better via ECN processing in terms of slippage.
no more than 5 lot? it should be a serious money you have here. and using ECN service are best for any serious trading purpose. but based on my years experience trade with them, tickmill only had classic and ECN account type. and for maximum lot size, I think no brokers would put these limitation as long as there's margin available to put entry trade. but to put a single big time lot order are simply put our risk on single price spot, split and hedge are kind of way to diversity our investment among any potential pairs.
  • #25
  • Mar 20, 2015 1:21am Mar 20, 2015 1:21am
Quoting fxindikator
{quote} no more than 5 lot? it should be a serious money you have here. and using ECN service are best for any serious trading purpose. but based on my years experience trade with them, tickmill only had classic and ECN account type. and for maximum lot size, I think no brokers would put these limitation as long as there's margin available to put entry trade. but to put a single big time lot order are simply put our risk on single price spot, split and hedge are kind of way to diversity our investment among any potential pairs.
Nah, there still should be some limitation on lot size, maybe 100 or 200 lots, but it's most probably for institutional traders, for retail traders like us there should be a borderline somewhere in 50 lots I think
  • #26
  • Mar 23, 2015 4:58am Mar 23, 2015 4:58am
Quoting leebsurag
{quote} Nah, there still should be some limitation on lot size, maybe 100 or 200 lots, but it's most probably for institutional traders, for retail traders like us there should be a borderline somewhere in 50 lots I think
Just confirmed. They have limit of 100 lots per trade. No limit for multiple orders.
  • #27
  • Mar 24, 2015 3:06pm Mar 24, 2015 3:06pm
Quoting leebsurag
{quote} Just confirmed. They have limit of 100 lots per trade. No limit for multiple orders.
hmm.. 100 lots per trade , for that's not a limit.. but already unlimited one. but for institutional traders these could be common lot they use.
based on my reading on several forum, executing larger lot size could lead an extra lagging during execution, so far I'm still never goes over 1 lot at tickmill ecn service. wonder had you found any issue when 5 lot entry trade with them ?
  • #28
  • Mar 25, 2015 3:10am Mar 25, 2015 3:10am
Quoting fxindikator
{quote} hmm.. 100 lots per trade , for that's not a limit.. but already unlimited one. but for institutional traders these could be common lot they use. based on my reading on several forum, executing larger lot size could lead an extra lagging during execution, so far I'm still never goes over 1 lot at tickmill ecn service. wonder had you found any issue when 5 lot entry trade with them ?

No issues with Tickmill so far. The minor problem is slippage, I mean undue one, however maybe I'm too idealistic about retail broker on NFP and similar events.

However, what-if scenario there is a chance for big enough order to not get filled because of no counterparty available on the market. Following this logic the bigger the order the harder is to offset it (especially there is no sufficient liquidity on the market). To reduce my exposure to liquidity risks I focused EUR/USD and XAU/USD instruments, I believe market is most capable on them.
  • #29
  • Mar 25, 2015 3:31am Mar 25, 2015 3:31am
Quoting Makavell
{quote} If youve advanced to the level of opening 1000lots positions per trade then you would not be asking the question in the first place
Indeed. If I have millions dollar/eur in my bank, I would lie on the yact with many long-leg models instead investing to this risky field.
  • #30
  • Mar 25, 2015 4:57am Mar 25, 2015 4:57am
Quoting hoangforex
{quote} Indeed. If I have millions dollar/eur in my bank, I would lie on the yact with many long-leg models instead investing to this risky field.

Having Millions earned with trading I'm almost sure you wouldn't be able to stop with this game. Trading is a style of life from professional traders, means constant need to predict, take risk, speculate...
  • #31
  • Mar 26, 2015 8:08am Mar 26, 2015 8:08am
Quoting leebsurag
{quote} No issues with Tickmill so far. The minor problem is slippage, I mean undue one, however maybe I'm too idealistic about retail broker on NFP and similar events. However, what-if scenario there is a chance for big enough order to not get filled because of no counterparty available on the market. Following this logic the bigger the order the harder is to offset it (especially there is no sufficient liquidity on the market). To reduce my exposure to liquidity risks I focused EUR/USD and XAU/USD instruments, I believe market is most capable...
nice insight. go with most traded pair, EU which means higher liquidity, volatility, and lowest spread. thank;s for clarification upon bigger lot size, if you put that way that's make sense. as slippage are inevitable especially during NFP, but less are more wit fx trading, means the less the better.
for now I keep with EU,AU,and UJ pair traded, for gold price sometime I put entry manually. for a moment have a glance to test and reseacrh with their new oil price (WTI), since it use single pair symbol, plan to implement my automatic trading system.
  • #32
  • Mar 28, 2015 9:04am Mar 28, 2015 9:04am
Quoting fxindikator
{quote} nice insight. go with most traded pair, EU which means higher liquidity, volatility, and lowest spread. thank;s for clarification upon bigger lot size, if you put that way that's make sense. as slippage are inevitable especially during NFP, but less are more wit fx trading, means the less the better. for now I keep with EU,AU,and UJ pair traded, for gold price sometime I put entry manually. for a moment have a glance to test and reseacrh with their new oil price (WTI), since it use single pair symbol, plan to implement my automatic trading...
What does "using single pair symbol" mean? Is it applied for WTI only or for future traded contracts? They're traded as CFD on OTC market, not exchange traded, right?
  • #33
  • Mar 29, 2015 10:53am Mar 29, 2015 10:53am
Quoting available
{quote} What does "using single pair symbol" mean? Is it applied for WTI only or for future traded contracts? They're traded as CFD on OTC market, not exchange traded, right?
I think it's applied to all CFD within their platform. couple years ago I had local brokerage who always change their 'Nikkei' traded symbol, as well with oil price symbol, contract end at 25 each months ( if i'm not mistaken ) . I inform my friend about tickmill WTI traded oil price symbol, as soon he comes up with and old powerful trading system, applied with oil price. due it's continous contract, means are able to wipe out a factor 'close only' state during contract end.
  • #34
  • Mar 29, 2015 11:41am Mar 29, 2015 11:41am
Quoting fxindikator
{quote} I think it's applied to all CFD within their platform. couple years ago I had local brokerage who always change their 'Nikkei' traded symbol, as well with oil price symbol, contract end at 25 each months ( if i'm not mistaken ) . I inform my friend about tickmill WTI traded oil price symbol, as soon he comes up with and old powerful trading system, applied with oil price. due it's continous contract, means are able to wipe out a factor 'close only' state during contract end.

I also see that they have Cash Index as underlying asset for their CFD (http://www.tickmill.com/exchange-account/#cfd )
What does this basically mean?
Thanks in advance
  • #35
  • Mar 30, 2015 4:50am Mar 30, 2015 4:50am
Quoting matheszabi
LMAX will handle your orders at 1:100 not sure about LGC, they need 20k account minimum. 1000 lots trading ... I think you should go directly to some Currenex platform, not sure about they leverage. JP Morgan and a few other bank will give access to interbank rates.
LMAX agree for 5k too, I know many people who deposit such amount, Best!
  • #36
  • Dec 23, 2016 1:20pm Dec 23, 2016 1:20pm
Quoting aris25
{quote} Is there any broker which offer high leverage in forex trading? Forex trading offer bigger lot. Can I use lot more about the 200 lot per open position in forex trading? Is alpari allow trader to trade in single trade about 200 standard lot?
FxGlory offers up to 1:3000. The choice is up to you. You can choose low leverage or high leverage.You are free to do anything wit your money. Either turn few hundreds to thousands or do otherwise.
  • #37
  • Dec 23, 2016 5:17pm Dec 23, 2016 5:17pm
I've always seen leverage as not a issue. you can use the highest available but just keep a low lot size. a high leverage can just help by not closing your trade. ofcourse some may get tempted to put more then that is just greed. I think following risk management will help not blowing your account
  • #38
  • Dec 26, 2016 4:57am Dec 26, 2016 4:57am
I have 60 lot restriction on Premium account with Hotforex, I think on their VIP account it should be higher.
  • #39
  • Apr 26, 2017 5:10pm Apr 26, 2017 5:10pm
Quoting samtrade01
I've always seen leverage as not a issue. you can use the highest available but just keep a low lot size. a high leverage can just help by not closing your trade. ofcourse some may get tempted to put more then that is just greed. I think following risk management will help not blowing your account
i'm not talking about the leverage,but I talk about the maximum lot that allow in sending order
  • #40
  • Apr 26, 2017 9:15pm Apr 26, 2017 9:15pm
FXOpen allows you open 1.000 lot size. If this helps you.
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