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  • #441
  • Mar 12, 2015 5:00am Mar 12, 2015 5:00am
Quoting palabara
{quote} You can't turn it off, its a natural physiological response...When your stressed even though your "focused" your cortex shuts off in a fight or flight response meaning your not making conscious decisions, instead your in a state of reacting to situation as opposed to logically thinking of them. So then when your back in a sense of calm you analyze your "decisions" that you've made in your heightened state. A lot of schooling under my belt lol!
Based on your answer you didn't really read what I wrote. Since I not only relaxed my trading but also my daily life I obviously know thing or two about how to handle a stress. I am always open to more knowledge/tricks but not from somebody who still experiences "stupid daily stress" as you named it yourself. That's why I asked you if you know how to deal with it.. Based on your teoretical answer without a practial way of handling the stress in real time..I guess you don't have a clue. Might seem harsh to you but if you would, you wouldn't experince "stupid daily stress". Be honest man, just admit the truth. Not for my..do it for yourself. But that's your choice, stay stressed if you want..

And yes, you can turn it off. At least I learned how to do that in real time. And I know anybody else can do the same..
If your body reacts as if it would be in danger..and there's no danger in sight then why to be on high alert? No reason. Even if there would be reason, even then you better be able to relax. Then you are able to do best decision/take best action. Doing the analysis after the fact gets you only so far, because if you don't know how to properly set the fight & flight so it won't active when there's no real danger and if you don't know how to calm it down in real time when there's no danger..then your previous preparation is pretty much useless if you get on high alert anyway..and then what? Wait till it calms down? How long that will take? It's a choice but there's way better choice.
And going through life being stressed by zillion of things..that's really tiring and it doesn't have to be that way. And life just gets better and better. And it feeels just great!

After the fact analysis is nice thing, but practical steps/tricks are even better. As that helps you deal with what is in the real time, thus making better choices. And you don't need any meditation tracks or any other fancy tool. After all do you wanna go through life with earphones on? Nothing wrong with that, but it's my choice.
Markets wispers, just tune in.
  • #442
  • Edited 6:09am Mar 12, 2015 5:48am | Edited 6:09am
Quoting plukin
{quote} Based on your answer you didn't really read what I wrote. Since I not only relaxed my trading but also my daily life I obviously know thing or two about how to handle a stress. I am always open to more knowledge/tricks but not from somebody who still experiences "stupid daily stress" as you named it yourself. That's why I asked you if you know how to deal with it.. Based on your teoretical answer without a practial way of handling the stress in real time..I guess you don't have a clue. Might seem harsh to you but if you would, you wouldn't...

Could you tell me how do you deal with stress? I need some tips and tricks, because I make almost all of my losing trades due to mistakes when I can't overcome my emotions. I do some exercises, but it's not enough. Do you know good lecture how to manage emotions and stress?
  • #443
  • Mar 12, 2015 7:21am Mar 12, 2015 7:21am
Quoting insomniawawa
Could you tell me how do you deal with stress?
I guess I'll start a separate thread where I'll write more about that so I don't mess up other threads with off topic.

Practical tip: Just breath & focus on breathing and what's going on inside you, the state you are in. Learn to realize you are getting stress/emotional..and learn to PAUSE and BREATH..till you calm down enough.. When you breath, you expand & relax the contraction that stress creates, the more you breath, the calmer you get, the more oxygen your body & brain has..the more the energy flows, the clearer you are, the better you are able to respond, thing, act.

It's that simple, yet it ain't easy as it takes a while to learn a new habbit. I don't have a lecture to recommend, it's basicaly my own exploration, inspired by others and applied that the way it works for me. It works wonders so I might put something together if there's enough interest. I understand myself that one thing is the information itself, completely another is effective application of it and avoiding mistakes that somebody who went that journey could highlight in advance.

So, you have practice to play with for now and I'll think about what to actually share with those who are willing to "win" over their emotional behaviours, reclaiming back their clarity & relaxaction & ease. And I'll let you know when it's posted. Don't know when it will be as I have other projects running that are higher priority for now and I value my time and what matters to me a lot. That being said..it there's enough interest that can pay off for both/all involved, cool, let's have a talk. I can priorities this, I do own my time.

Of course, let me know any feedback/experience you'll encounter doing this exercise, anything, as it's helpfull to know what you face and what's going on.

This stuff works, if I can do it, so can anyone else, we all have the same "ability" however you wanna call it. The trick is to basicaly show it/present it to you and others the way it fits you, as individualy we are all in different place/space. Basically it's about showing you how you can get from where you are to where you wanna be effectively, at your own pace and owning it.

Sharing it with others is something new to me but hey, if I was, and continue to be, able to couch myself "under the fire" I feel I can do it with others. So let's have some fun and let's see what great results can we create together! You guys deserve to experience the same that I do.. Just yummy.. And if you think it sounds too good to be true.. I can assure you it's even better once you experience it! Like adding colors to black&white TV, no kidding.. And once you learn it, you just expand on this, you can't unlearn that..priceless.
Sorry, got carried away..back to business.
Markets wispers, just tune in.
  • #444
  • Mar 12, 2015 10:06am Mar 12, 2015 10:06am
Quoting plukin
{quote} I guess I'll start a separate thread where I'll write more about that so I don't mess up other threads with off topic. Practical tip: Just breath & focus on breathing and what's going on inside you, the state you are in. Learn to realize you are getting stress/emotional..and learn to PAUSE and BREATH..till you calm down enough.. When you breath, you expand & relax the contraction that stress creates, the more you breath, the calmer you get, the more oxygen your body & brain has..the more the energy flows, the clearer you are, the better...

Thank you for reply. Yes, I know this exercise. To clear my mind I inhale and count to 4, pause, exhale count to 4, pause and repeat it for several minutes, during exercise I try not to think about nothing. It's really good, but still I need something more create peaceful mind and trade in zone. If you create own thread about it, let me know, I will be grateful
  • #445
  • Mar 12, 2015 11:37am Mar 12, 2015 11:37am
Quoting TradeProfit
{quote} Bro, perhaps should change our trading mindset yeah. Achieving consistency for trading is far more important as it can guarantee your to achieve higher probability of success. You can do it too
Yes. Consistency is important, but risk management is also important for not just 1 trade to wipe out everything. Let it go lose, take a rest, come back again.
  • #446
  • Mar 12, 2015 11:39am Mar 12, 2015 11:39am
From my observation, i can see that many traders have suffered serious DD last week. LOL

So sometimes it is too sudden for you to prepare, anyway, last week was a sign of big movement in future based on my analysis and experience. Be careful guys.
  • #447
  • Mar 12, 2015 11:53am Mar 12, 2015 11:53am
Quoting insomniawawa
Thank you for reply. Yes, I know this exercise. To clear my mind I inhale and count to 4, pause, exhale count to 4, pause and repeat it for several minutes, during exercise I try not to think about nothing. It's really good, but still I need something more create peaceful mind and trade in zone.
You don't need anything else then what I wrote. It's just about applying it on anything that "bothers" you and rinse and repeat. Of course it does requires couple other components of how to effectively use it to experience the results you want but I'd call them add ons to this one.

Btw want to share more details about why this breathing thing doesn't work for you? As you wrote you still can't handle the emotions and it costs you.. So, how do you actually apply it that it doesn't relax you and you still act the way you don't want?

Did you missed the part about turning your focus within, exploring what's going on there? That's really all you need for starters.

Btw how is the "trying not to thing about anything" working for you? I guess, not much..
Don't try..let the mind be the mind..there's more going on within you then just thoughts, besides they just help you adress what's going on within.. Just allow them.
Markets wispers, just tune in.
  • #448
  • Mar 12, 2015 11:55am Mar 12, 2015 11:55am
Quoting ~bull.bear~
From my observation, i can see that many traders have suffered serious DD last week. LOL So sometimes it is too sudden for you to prepare, anyway, last week was a sign of big movement in future based on my analysis and experience. Be careful guys.
I noticed the same thing, I think in my opinion a lot of traders look for the "reversal" and the reversals don't come. I also noticed a bit of an sorta lame duck activity in AUD/NZD its a bit tough to explain but AUD/USD has no traction its moved by market forces such as dollar strength and or correlates to NZD movement while NZD tends to lead the spear causing Ranged Volatility AUD/NZD.. Not saying any of it is bad nor good, its just a bit different pattern movement it hasn't been like this in a long while. AUD I think based from a fundamental perspective has no footing its in a okay area so neither up nor down its a safe heaven of sorts not as good as it used to be, but still plays that role while NZD is in control of the motion it has direction and catalysts and everything else. This are just my observations.
There are those who know, and there are those who don't know.
  • #449
  • Mar 12, 2015 1:28pm Mar 12, 2015 1:28pm
Quoting plukin
{quote} You don't need anything else then what I wrote. It's just about applying it on anything that "bothers" you and rinse and repeat. Of course it does requires couple other components of how to effectively use it to experience the results you want but I'd call them add ons to this one. Btw want to share more details about why this breathing thing doesn't work for you? As you wrote you still can't handle the emotions and it costs you.. So, how do you actually apply it that it doesn't relax you and you still act the way you don't want? Did you...
Of course this exercise relax me, but relaxation doesn't last long enough, but maybe the reason why is that I started doing it few weeks ago, maybe more training is needed. The reason why I try not to think about anything is that mind always creates millions thoughts when you are not focused at anything. One thought creates next one due to connotations, so you it can't clear your mind. I will pay more attention to this exercise More training should lead to better effects
  • #450
  • Mar 13, 2015 3:10am Mar 13, 2015 3:10am
Quoting plukin
{quote}And you don't need any meditation tracks or any other fancy tool. After all do you wanna go through life with earphones on? Nothing wrong with that, but it's my choice.
Audio exercises are just one of many other methods to understand the calm state of mind and how to achieve it. It is the easiest way for people who never feel it and don't know from which point to start. You need not to use it through all your life. Understanding will come after all and anybody who seeks will find his own way. I beleive that the best tool for everybody to become aware and relaxed is the tool that he discovers by himself. Anyway we are out of Tim's topic. It is a very good idea to start a new thread to discuss all these things. Plukin, we are waiting for you
  • #451
  • Mar 13, 2015 6:50am Mar 13, 2015 6:50am
Quoting TimTheTrader
{quote} Thanks mate, Unfortunately, I do not know how the mirror/copy trade thing work,If you know how it works I don't mind it as long as I am getting some sort of commission
Interested parties should check out the Fxstat website to copy trade or social trading. Just my 2 pips.
Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler.
  • #452
  • Mar 13, 2015 7:57am Mar 13, 2015 7:57am
Quoting bakemaka
It is a very good idea to start a new thread to discuss all these things. Plukin, we are waiting for you
Here it is:
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...81#post8134881

I'll post my replies there as well so we won't clutter Tim's place any longer.
Markets wispers, just tune in.
  • #453
  • Mar 13, 2015 8:54am Mar 13, 2015 8:54am
Quoting plukin
..After all do you wanna go through life with earphones on? Nothing wrong with that, but it's my choice.
Should read: It's NOT my choice. I see it as a band-aid compared to full treatment. And I just love addresing the root cause.
Markets wispers, just tune in.
  • #454
  • Mar 15, 2015 8:30pm Mar 15, 2015 8:30pm
Quoting vicentis
{quote} UaU! How its done? please tell!
only open close with pinbar or fake pinbar in M15
  • #455
  • Mar 16, 2015 6:39am Mar 16, 2015 6:39am
Quoting alexchandra
{quote} only open close with pinbar or fake pinbar in M15
Thanks,

i sent a P.M.


ReAl MoDe: ON
  • #456
  • Mar 17, 2015 11:13am Mar 17, 2015 11:13am
Quoting TimTheTrader
NZD/USD trade, grabbed 200points, banked 50.88 before a reversal. Slowly and surely, I shall recover the losses, and hopefully made some additional profit. Just wait on it... Account now stands at 811.92 {image}
What do you mean by 200 points?
  • #457
  • Mar 17, 2015 12:18pm Mar 17, 2015 12:18pm
1 pip = 10 points or ticks
  • #458
  • Mar 18, 2015 5:24am Mar 18, 2015 5:24am
anyone remember this call,first posted on 2nd March,revised on 10th March!


with this available momentum,and price easing past 0.7200 resistance(first Take Profit Limit).... that second Take Profit Limit,0.7400 might not be too much to hope for(however, FOMC is a reasonable cause for concern). Again,itz only my 2cents. Gracias!!!!!
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  • #459
  • Mar 19, 2015 7:57am Mar 19, 2015 7:57am
This is the first thread I've read from start to finish, I found it interesting as I'm very much like Tim as in a student and from England. I also had a first go at forex trading only to do so poorly I walked away only to come back after reading books and watching videos off a pirate bay package (naked trading ect..). Stupidly I was trading 1 quid a pip first time round but now I've scaled it down and have a basic system that seems to work as I've been making profit for two months now. Keep us updated Tim it's good to see someone on a similar as me!!
  • #460
  • Mar 19, 2015 12:30pm Mar 19, 2015 12:30pm
Is Tim still around, surely he's not failed already, I was hoping for good things with this thread....
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