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  • #621
  • Aug 5, 2006 10:01pm Aug 5, 2006 10:01pm
Quoting Trinity
Got it. My primary server is ua2.csidata.com
Mine shows the same thing, ua2.csidata.com.

When I download the data before 6:30 and open VP it shows that the data was last updated on the previous date. After 6:30 when I download the data and open VP it then says that it was last updated that day. I guess I'll call CSI on Monday to find out what's going on.
  • #622
  • Aug 5, 2006 10:38pm Aug 5, 2006 10:38pm
Quoting floridaforex
Mine shows the same thing, ua2.csidata.com.

When I download the data before 6:30 and open VP it shows that the data was last updated on the previous date. After 6:30 when I download the data and open VP it then says that it was last updated that day. I guess I'll call CSI on Monday to find out what's going on.
mine is also 6:30. no earlier generally.
  • #623
  • Aug 6, 2006 5:51am Aug 6, 2006 5:51am
Quoting zarni
Hi BB,
i am wondering how you get 5:15 for csi. I am never able to get it anywhere near that. The best time I've managed is 5:30 and that is really rate. Usually it is about 6 or 6:30 EST.
Might this have something to do with what data you're collecting? I'm with CRB and when I asked them about timing they answered as follows:

Gold - COMEX: open @ 1p, close @ 12:30p CST
EUR-USD - CME: open @ 5p, close @ 2p CST
GBP-USD - CME: open @ 5p, close (pit session) @ 2p CST
GBP-JPY - FOREX: open @ 4p, close at 2:45p CST
  • #624
  • Aug 6, 2006 3:59pm Aug 6, 2006 3:59pm
Is anyone here using VP to help them trade the Vegas system? (1hr or 4hr)

I am looking to do this, wondering if anyone has any tips that have helped them develop a system to incorporate VP into Vegas trading.

Thanks,
~Keith
  • #625
  • Aug 6, 2006 4:17pm Aug 6, 2006 4:17pm
Quoting floridaforex
Is anyone here using VP to help them trade the Vegas system? (1hr or 4hr)

I am looking to do this, wondering if anyone has any tips that have helped them develop a system to incorporate VP into Vegas trading.

Thanks,
~Keith
Hmmm..now THAT's a very good question, flo.

I am very interested in the answer myself.
  • #626
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:10am Aug 8, 2006 3:10am
Quoting floridaforex

I just got a hold of hourly intraday data going back to Jan05. I'll let you know what I find out.
Hi floridaforex,
Would you mind posting this data, or a link to it? I think a lot of backtesters would appreciate it.
  • #627
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:48am Aug 8, 2006 3:48am
Quoting floridaforex
Is anyone here using VP to help them trade the Vegas system? (1hr or 4hr)

I am looking to do this, wondering if anyone has any tips that have helped them develop a system to incorporate VP into Vegas trading.

Thanks,
~Keith
I find it difficult to say that I'm trying to use VP to trade the VWB method.

But I'm trying to correlate the VP signals with VWB and the dynamic FIBS as well as with the 4H Knife to enter and using the tunnels and the VP Ph/Pl to take profits. With so much influence from News Events it is a wilder ride than before, I think. I cannot yet provide guide lines with conviction but the combination helps to guide to trades with more potential with less bad trades.

The VP recommendations are very useful, I think.
  • #628
  • Aug 8, 2006 11:12am Aug 8, 2006 11:12am
Quoting rodant
Hi floridaforex,
Would you mind posting this data, or a link to it? I think a lot of backtesters would appreciate it.
Actually, it's minute data. It is available in 4 formats (DC, MS, MT4, XPO).

For instance EURUSD is available in a 6mb file that has all the minute-by-minute (M1) data from June 16, 2004 through August 4, 2006. They also offer the ability to download each month's M1 data individually.

Here's the link:
http://www.alpari-idc.com/en/dc/databank.php

Have fun backtesting and enjoy!

~Keith
  • #629
  • Aug 8, 2006 11:21am Aug 8, 2006 11:21am
Does anyone here know of a signal system that almost always gives bad predictions? If so I'll open demo account and trade the opposite direction.

Have any of you already tried this before?
  • #630
  • Aug 8, 2006 11:28am Aug 8, 2006 11:28am
Quoting floridaforex
Does anyone here know of a signal system that almost always gives bad predictions? If so I'll open demo account and trade the opposite direction.

Have any of you already tried this before?
There is no system like that or if there were it would be under lock and key. However, there are individuals who do not follow money management principles. That is why they lose not because of the system which they blamefor their woes.
  • #631
  • Aug 8, 2006 2:42pm Aug 8, 2006 2:42pm
Hi,

I'm new here and didn't get a chance to read this whole thread, maybe half. I purchased VP a little while back and have been trying to figure out a system to trade it. I've come up with something simple that I want to know if anyone else has tested before (sorry if it's already been posted here, but I haven't seen it as of yet). I know there are already flaws in it due to the fact that all the data I'm using is daily, so it doesn't incorporate when each pair actually hits the high/low of the day. But I just tried a basic system using the following method:

If Neural index = 1, set buy order for next day at Predicted low, stop 200, limit half the distance between Predicted low and Predicted high. Exit at next day close if it is not closed already

Opposite for NI = 0

Here's a summary I have (if my excel formulas are correct) from 9/18/02 - 7/31/06:

Total pips for all markets: 175752
Total pips/day all markets: 124.4874314
Ave pips/day/market: 12.44874314
Ave total pips all markets: 17575.2
Ave win%: 90%
Ave PNI Correctness: 74%
Ave days/trade/market: 3.67

Now again, I know it won't actually work out this good depending on the time of day the order is opened compared to when the highs/lows are actually hit (which can be backtested with the new intraday data that was posted by floridaforex). Just wanted to to see if anyone has already tried this. I've included an excel sheet of my calculations (please help me check for mistakes) using data from CSI.

-Shungos
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  • #632
  • Aug 8, 2006 2:59pm Aug 8, 2006 2:59pm
Quoting shungos
Hi,

I'm new here and didn't get a chance to read this whole thread, maybe half. I purchased VP a little while back and have been trying to figure out a system to trade it. I've come up with something simple that I want to know if anyone else has tested before (sorry if it's already been posted here, but I haven't seen it as of yet). I know there are already flaws in it due to the fact that all the data I'm using is daily, so it doesn't incorporate when each pair actually hits the high/low of the day. But I just tried a basic system using the following method:

If Neural index = 1, set buy order for next day at Predicted low, stop 200, limit half the distance between Predicted low and Predicted high. Exit at next day close if it is not closed already

Opposite for NI = 0

Here's a summary I have (if my excel formulas are correct) from 9/18/02 - 7/31/06:

Total pips for all markets: 175752
Total pips/day all markets: 124.4874314
Ave pips/day/market: 12.44874314
Ave total pips all markets: 17575.2
Ave win%: 90%
Ave PNI Correctness: 74%
Ave days/trade/market: 3.67

Now again, I know it won't actually work out this good depending on the time of day the order is opened compared to when the highs/lows are actually hit (which can be backtested with the new intraday data that was posted by floridaforex). Just wanted to to see if anyone has already tried this. I've included an excel sheet of my calculations (please help me check for mistakes) using data from CSI.

-Shungos

I did something similar. Although I found NI to be the most usable indicator, the success factor was not as high as what you found. Mine was b/n 65-80% winning trades.
I tried varying other strategies.
You can see all at following location:
http://www.savefile.com/files/4185984
  • #633
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:07pm Aug 8, 2006 3:07pm
Quoting zarni
I did something similar. Although I found NI to be the most usable indicator, the success factor was not as high as what you found. Mine was b/n 65-80% winning trades.
I tried varying other strategies.
You can see all at following location:
http://www.savefile.com/files/4185984
Thanks zarni, I'll look that over too. When I Just used the NI as a buy sell indicator I actually only got around 50% on average with none over about 54%. The way I got the 74% was to cross check if the NI matched the actual index as calculated by the previous 2 days closes being higher or lower than the actual next 2 days closes.

-shungos
  • #634
  • Aug 8, 2006 3:10pm Aug 8, 2006 3:10pm
Quoting shungos
Thanks zarni, I look that over to. When I Just used the NI as a buy sell indicator I actually only got around 50% on average with none over about 54%. The way I got the 74% was to cross check if the NI matched the actual index as calculated by the previous 2 days closes being higher or lower than the actual next 2 days closes.

-shungos
If you look I used an adjustment factor for PHI and PLO (entry /exit) which brings it to optimal settings based on sample.
You can get up to 80-90% success but barely any trades...
I think this system is viable. However it requires a lot of discipline to sit down every evening to do the math.
I haven't used VP in a while...
  • #635
  • Aug 8, 2006 5:52pm Aug 8, 2006 5:52pm
shungos.....

I suggest you do some reading in this thread; I think your question will be answered.

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...t=forward+test

BB



Quoting shungos
Hi,

I'm new here and didn't get a chance to read this whole thread, maybe half. I purchased VP a little while back and have been trying to figure out a system to trade it. I've come up with something simple that I want to know if anyone else has tested before (sorry if it's already been posted here, but I haven't seen it as of yet). I know there are already flaws in it due to the fact that all the data I'm using is daily, so it doesn't incorporate when each pair actually hits the high/low of the day. But I just tried a basic system using the following method:

If Neural index = 1, set buy order for next day at Predicted low, stop 200, limit half the distance between Predicted low and Predicted high. Exit at next day close if it is not closed already

Opposite for NI = 0

Here's a summary I have (if my excel formulas are correct) from 9/18/02 - 7/31/06:

Total pips for all markets: 175752
Total pips/day all markets: 124.4874314
Ave pips/day/market: 12.44874314
Ave total pips all markets: 17575.2
Ave win%: 90%
Ave PNI Correctness: 74%
Ave days/trade/market: 3.67

Now again, I know it won't actually work out this good depending on the time of day the order is opened compared to when the highs/lows are actually hit (which can be backtested with the new intraday data that was posted by floridaforex). Just wanted to to see if anyone has already tried this. I've included an excel sheet of my calculations (please help me check for mistakes) using data from CSI.

-Shungos
  • #636
  • Aug 8, 2006 7:07pm Aug 8, 2006 7:07pm
Quoting BeachBum
shungos.....

I suggest you do some reading in this thread; I think your question will be answered.

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...t=forward+test

BB
I think so... still reading through it, but it looks like this is what i wanted.

thanks!

-shungos
  • #637
  • Aug 9, 2006 8:37am Aug 9, 2006 8:37am
Quoting zarni
There is no system like that or if there were it would be under lock and key. However, there are individuals who do not follow money management principles. That is why they lose not because of the system which they blamefor their woes.
That's what I figured. Just thought I'd ask.

~Keith
  • #638
  • Aug 10, 2006 11:22pm Aug 10, 2006 11:22pm
Just wondered how the EA was working for you .... Is it still great with VantagePoint. Just wondered how much V.P. helps ... may get it myself. Thanks!
  • #639
  • Aug 11, 2006 6:42am Aug 11, 2006 6:42am
Quoting ut2DaMax
Just wondered how the EA was working for you .... Is it still great with VantagePoint. Just wondered how much V.P. helps ... may get it myself. Thanks!
i had very bad experiences with them. if you really want the software becareful. there isnt a trial and there isnt a garantee, so make sure you really want to risk $6900 before you get it.
  • #640
  • Aug 11, 2006 7:37am Aug 11, 2006 7:37am
Quoting ut2DaMax
Just wondered how the EA was working for you .... Is it still great with VantagePoint. Just wondered how much V.P. helps ... may get it myself. Thanks!
Not sure what you mean.........what "EA"?

VP helps me with my trading, I use it effectively everyday along with other TA.

BB
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