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stuck in a hedge, need help :/

  • #1
  • First Post: Feb 6, 2015 6:38am Feb 6, 2015 6:38am
here it goes, have 4 positions 2 short two long open with two different commodities of oil,keept it overnight and today took hefty profit from longs,and added same long positions again,now i came to realize that the gap has widened a lot since i did that.

Also trouble is that crude oil stays open 24/7 while brent stops trading for couple h every night,and this results in unpredictable movement where long position can move in either direction while other stands still and cant correlate ?

since gap is over nearly 150pips it even hard to scalp as it cuts into margin.

Any advice how one should get out of such situation.

I considered i could close 1 short to create more margin,as im at the brink-but again dont want to gamble on the future,coverings positions.

also thought about scalping and reducing negative lots with profits 1 by one but its a lot of work calculating tp/sl since broker platform doesnt allow closing single units,only another buy closes it.

since i know hedging doesnt work out well in many cases.

any input is appreciated.
  • #2
  • Feb 6, 2015 8:32am Feb 6, 2015 8:32am
I see i might of posted in wrong forum if some mods please move it to approriate one thank you.
  • #3
  • Feb 6, 2015 8:38am Feb 6, 2015 8:38am
I would suggest you to close all trade. It sounds like you are over leveraging and over trading. Close the trade and learn from your mistakes. Go back to demo and backtest your strategy if needed
  • #4
  • Feb 6, 2015 6:05pm Feb 6, 2015 6:05pm
Have you considered to stop trading? If not, I suggest you do. Stop trading that is.
  • #5
  • Feb 6, 2015 6:35pm Feb 6, 2015 6:35pm
1. add equity to lessen the risk ratio
2. close all position
3. when the next signal comes, focus on closing 1 position

choose any that you require, all is about risk so it has some gambling inside.
  • #6
  • Feb 7, 2015 7:01am Feb 7, 2015 7:01am
Out of 3 replies at least one wasn't a $ick advise,So thank you very much Gwan,rest of you don't give advice if you don't have any to give.
  • #7
  • Feb 7, 2015 7:26am Feb 7, 2015 7:26am
Stop trading, study and learn before you take this kind of positions.
Trading 24/h
  • #8
  • Feb 7, 2015 7:55am Feb 7, 2015 7:55am
Close all positions and avoid such situation as it is nothing but disaster waiting to unfold.
Since you took profit earlier. A small loss overall should not be too painful. The energy wasted on such eventualities is not worth it as you can free up your capital to do better.
None the wiser!
  • #9
  • Feb 7, 2015 8:13am Feb 7, 2015 8:13am
best answer fxclown
  • #10
  • Feb 14, 2015 5:59am Feb 14, 2015 5:59am
r u hedge between WTI & Brent? if u say it spread wider since u hedge them, that mean u sell 2 Brent and buy 2WTI... Right? WTI usually 10%(min 0%-max23%) cheaper than Brent, now at 14,3% (WTI 52.65, Brent 61.46), now it depend on what price u open position and your equity, good luck
No Pain, No Gain
  • #11
  • Feb 17, 2015 8:22am Feb 17, 2015 8:22am
I have been in your position a few times. unfortunately each time I ended up blowing the account. I trade wti and the problem with it is the rollover. You have to know when it is done because one time I had a short trade and the roll over cost me $270 on a trade of one mini lot.

To sum it up, get out of the trades because if you do not you will lose every thing since you are already over leveraged. The last time i was in your position, I closed all the negative trades and was lucky in that price moved in my favour and restored some of my losses.
  • #12
  • Dec 19, 2025 1:00pm Dec 19, 2025 1:00pm
Quoting johNal
I have been in your position a few times. unfortunately each time I ended up blowing the account. I trade wti and the problem with it is the rollover. You have to know when it is done because one time I had a short trade and the roll over cost me $270 on a trade of one mini lot. To sum it up, get out of the trades because if you do not you will lose every thing since you are already over leveraged. The last time i was in your position, I closed all the negative trades and was lucky in that price moved in my favour and restored some of my losses....
You can also install a robot that will easily unload the hedge
  • #13
  • Dec 19, 2025 1:59pm Dec 19, 2025 1:59pm
Quoting MrConejo
{quote} You can also install a robot that will easily unload the hedge
10 year old hedge, can you show the recommended Robot?
  • #14
  • Dec 19, 2025 3:00pm Dec 19, 2025 3:00pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} 10 year old hedge, can you show the recommended Robot?
Is trading Robot, its unload hedge in emergency mode. Also may trying unload existing hedge.
Quote
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post15496960
If you wanna, lets try free.
  • #15
  • Dec 19, 2025 3:02pm Dec 19, 2025 3:02pm
Quoting MrConejo
{quote} Is trading Robot, its unload hedge in emergency mode. Also may trying unload existing hedge. {quote} If you wanna, lets try free.
The thread is 10 years old.
  • #16
  • Dec 19, 2025 3:08pm Dec 19, 2025 3:08pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} The thread is 10 years old.
I think thear'e people today who have fallen into the hedge stuck. I'm the same way- lost a lot of money due to not knowing how to unload it. With this robot, everything has become much simpler.
  • #17
  • Dec 19, 2025 5:21pm Dec 19, 2025 5:21pm
Quoting MrConejo
{quote} I think thear'e people today who have fallen into the hedge stuck. I'm the same way- lost a lot of money due to not knowing how to unload it. With this robot, everything has become much simpler.
Excellent. Can you provide more details, cost etc?
  • #18
  • Last Post: Dec 20, 2025 6:49am Dec 20, 2025 6:49am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Excellent. Can you provide more details, cost etc?
Robot is free now, the only requirement is to register using our partner link and broker will pay a commission for your trades.
If we unload the hedge, I think we could take 10% of the recovered deposit every week.
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