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  • #51,521
  • Jan 16, 2015 4:55am Jan 16, 2015 4:55am
Quoting fti
{quote} noted. seems ok. customer funds still secured. The broking just need to recapitalise if they want to continue function. Retail client funds continue to be segregated in accordance with FCA rules. - See more at: http://www.alpari.co.uk/client-updat....Sr1HgFrw.dpuf regards

but retail trader will not get her money as soon as. am i right ? or not ?
  • #51,522
  • Jan 16, 2015 5:01am Jan 16, 2015 5:01am
Quoting fxmusa
{quote} but retail trader will not get her money as soon as. am i right ? or not ?
if not receive $ in half week , file arbitration with respective authorities. Maybe pileup, contacting broker should have info.


regards
  • #51,523
  • Jan 16, 2015 5:06am Jan 16, 2015 5:06am
Quoting alexandria
{quote} Wow - bad times for some - peoples jobs at risk. I know it takes ages to get your money back via UK system - but at least you get it back if segregated. What happens to all the peeps who exceeded their max - does margin call mean their limit of exposure was to the amount in their account and margin call meant trades were closed at that point by broker or do they owe more - how does all this work - just realised that I do not really know about this sort of stuff and I should. How could the broker cope with a bulk situation ie not just 1/2...
normally 20% volitility is normal.
But this was a pricing melt down. So stops can be filled miles away from stop point.
It depends from case to case.

if fills cause losses exceeding funds in account. the broking would need take legal means get from the account holders. Would be in accordance with whats in the account opening contract.



regards.
  • #51,524
  • Jan 16, 2015 5:23am Jan 16, 2015 5:23am
Quoting fti
{quote} normally 20% volitility is normal. But this was a pricing melt down. So stops can be filled miles away from stop point. It depends from case to case. if fills cause losses exceeding funds in account. the broking would need take legal means get from the account holders. Would be in accordance with whats in the account opening contract. regards.
Thank you: MM vital: use tiny small amount of your capital - foreign capital is best but early in year.

I watched it from the side - couldn't figure why eur/usd & usd/chf running together at first - another valuable lesson from market. Maybe other brokers in trouble too.
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #51,525
  • Jan 16, 2015 5:29am Jan 16, 2015 5:29am
Quoting alexandria
{quote} Thank you: MM vital: use tiny small amount of your capital - foreign capital is best but early in year. I watched it from the side - couldn't figure why eur/usd & usd/chf running together at first - another valuable lesson from market. Maybe other brokers in trouble too.
This situation seems affecting many. So i think the authorities may step in mitigate.
keep watching wires.

regards
  • #51,526
  • Jan 16, 2015 5:37am Jan 16, 2015 5:37am
Quoting fti
{quote} This situation seems affecting many. So i think the authorities may step in mitigate. keep watching wires. regards

I heard 3 guys gone bust - what a mess. No chocy now folks maybe too expensive. Just so glad I am not involved anywhere - would scare the whatsit out of me - although I was watching it live. I read peeps who were even in the right direction had their trades bombed out so not sure what happens to them. Scarey world.

If we have very big runs against us - is the right thing to get the heck out a.s.a.p (but watch bottom line && pull the plug if necessary)) or wait to see what happens if bottom line not reached and make sure you have lots in reserve always.
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #51,527
  • Jan 16, 2015 7:40am Jan 16, 2015 7:40am
Quoting appleboy
{quote} i am processing what you are telling me ... thinking.... oh man i feel dumb. and i hope i dont make myself look more dumb in a public forum when i try to think aloud. order mechanics has never been clear to me but here goes... Market price is 10/15 that means the ask / offer ( market will sell to me, i will buy from the market ) is 15 that means the bid (market will buy from me , i will sell to the market ) is 10 a bid and an ask must match for there to be a trade assuming i bid at 12 that means i am willing to make a price to buy at 12...
hihi appleboy, ddo you see that that is price infraction which can only happened in OTC mkt? shd be somewhere early on thread mentioned it. if they buy at better price than you and refuse fill you bid, it says something
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #51,528
  • Jan 16, 2015 7:41am Jan 16, 2015 7:41am
any frens here use g-l_o-b a l p_r_ i m e as b r o k e r? do your see any news regarding them? i have some money with them which i kept to trade when i find time. after this fiasco, now i thinking to withdraw the entire amount as i not sure how many dead skeletons there are not show up yet.
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #51,529
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:09am Jan 16, 2015 8:09am
http://www.wsj.com/video/swiss-franc...7013E1C74.html
  • #51,530
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:14am Jan 16, 2015 8:14am
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102344274#.
  • #51,531
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:34am Jan 16, 2015 8:34am
Quoting Jacque
any frens here use g-l_o-b a l p_r_ i m e as b r o k e r? do your see any news regarding them? i have some money with them which i kept to trade when i find time. after this fiasco, now i thinking to withdraw the entire amount as i not sure how many dead skeletons there are not show up yet.

Hi Jacque

here is something i found, if it is true they have survived.

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...30#post7998330

good luck

regards

Phil.
-be careful about what you allow to be put in your mind-
  • #51,532
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:52am Jan 16, 2015 8:52am
Quoting phil13
{quote} Hi Jacque here is something i found, if it is true they have survived. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...30#post7998330 good luck regards Phil.
thanks phil they have a presence on one of the forums out there and the story on your link is from there from. was kind of looking more towards reported news in public domain.. hope all is good at your end

if it must goes, it goes.

usdchf has a nice trip top, broken nl, its training 200 pips on an impulse, nothing is impossible huh

says something on unnatural control and balance? when must come, will come. if forcefully spt, is just not come now, but when it come, all the accumulated force unleashed, damage is far greater. this law of vibration, law of nature, law of universe
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #51,533
  • Jan 16, 2015 8:58am Jan 16, 2015 8:58am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} hihi appleboy, ddo you see that that is price infraction which can only happened in OTC mkt? shd be somewhere early on thread mentioned it. if they buy at better price than you and refuse fill you bid, it says something
oh thanks for the search tip Jacque !
much appreciated !
I will search for it and perhaps reply here again so others can have a go at understanding this.
  • #51,534
  • Jan 16, 2015 9:01am Jan 16, 2015 9:01am
Quoting appleboy
{quote} oh thanks for the search tip Jacque ! much appreciated ! I will search for it and perhaps reply here again so others can have a go at understanding this.
no need search thread already, it is what has been stated in this recent few posts already. i highlight is on thread just to show you this has alreadly been addressed before.

this is market structure, the principles is in AOW.

read tunnel thru the air, the secret is plain obvious. in that few pages only. why people search high and low and everywhere when what they wanted is just in front of them, may understand once find way out of the tunnel
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #51,535
  • Jan 16, 2015 9:46am Jan 16, 2015 9:46am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} no need search thread already, it is what has been stated in this recent few posts already. i highlight is on thread just to show you this has alreadly been addressed before. this is market structure, the principles is in AOW. read tunnel thru the air, the secret is plain obvious. in that few pages only. why people search high and low and everywhere when what they wanted is just in front of them, may understand once find way out of the tunnel
ok thanks anyway.

will read up on it again anyway.

AOW's a priceless read, love it and i apply it every day to my life.

regarding tunnel thru air, i read it once, but didnt quite catch what the tunnel meant, perhaps with time it will come to me.
  • #51,536
  • Jan 16, 2015 10:02am Jan 16, 2015 10:02am
Quoting appleboy
{quote} ok thanks anyway. will read up on it again anyway. AOW's a priceless read, love it and i apply it every day to my life. regarding tunnel thru air, i read it once, but didnt quite catch what the tunnel meant, perhaps with time it will come to me.
i dont think there is any difference in meaning as to what a tunnel mean in the book as compared to what a tunnel means in our real world. keep it simple, dont look for something that is not there.
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #51,537
  • Jan 16, 2015 11:50am Jan 16, 2015 11:50am
calling it a week now , have good weekend all and forget about what has gone on this week for a couple of days, it is only money. (they are always printing more)

REMEMBER

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regards

Phil.
-be careful about what you allow to be put in your mind-
  • #51,538
  • Jan 16, 2015 12:00pm Jan 16, 2015 12:00pm
Quoting phil13
calling it a week now , have good weekend all and forget about what has gone on this week for a couple of days, it is only money. (they are always printing more) REMEMBER {image} regards Phil.
nice weekend.

this funny world.
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  • #51,539
  • Jan 16, 2015 12:05pm Jan 16, 2015 12:05pm
Quoting fti
{quote} nice weekend. this funny world. {image}
Hi fti

very good my friend, have a good weekend.

regards

Phil.
-be careful about what you allow to be put in your mind-
  • #51,540
  • Jan 16, 2015 12:10pm Jan 16, 2015 12:10pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-traders.html


they worried about chocolate.
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