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  • #181
  • Edited 8:31am Dec 18, 2014 8:19am | Edited 8:31am
Quoting Candlestick
Hi 101 Interesting thread here, pretty much like the way I trade day in day out, quick question....I see you have a good return but noticed there's been no mention of R:R or Stops etc, just wondered if you don't use them or just haven't mentioned them so far? Thanks
Another interesting thing is that the title says Supply & Demand but the threat is totally different with bunch of indis while real S/D is about PA and guess where the supply /demand is watching the zones/candles.

P.S Here is an example of supply/demand on OIL although i don't trade oil
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  • #182
  • Dec 18, 2014 9:39am Dec 18, 2014 9:39am
Time to buy Eur/Usd again.. I believe it will go up around 50 pips.

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  • #183
  • Dec 18, 2014 9:44am Dec 18, 2014 9:44am
Quoting santos23
Time to buy Eur/Usd again.. I believe it will go up around 50 pips. {image}

Weekly Support is at 1.2110!! It depends on which time frame you are Looking!! Never come in the way of a Train going Down!!
  • #184
  • Dec 18, 2014 9:47am Dec 18, 2014 9:47am
Quoting behman8850
{quote} Weekly Support is at 1.2110!! It depends on which time frame you are Looking!! Never come in the way of a Train going Down!!
True, regardless..it would be nice to talk more about supply and demand here.

I think an up retracement before heading down first
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  • #185
  • Dec 18, 2014 9:50am Dec 18, 2014 9:50am
Quoting abofar
{quote} Hi Stevepatt It can't be more clearer. I do appreciate this help very much. Thank you very much. The problem oscillator does not have clear turning point ,when you enter or exit I find the oscillator start changing its mind about turning down if it is overbought , or turn up if it is oversold and the price reverse what did I do wrong here ?,

Hi abofar;

As long as you understand the power of the image, that I posted, it will help with your trading progression.

Another part of the puzzle is Market Structure this will be a big help with finding the Primary Trend. There's lots of information about this on Youtube/Google

As FXyao said it's then a matter of trading that information with any additional Indicator(s) that you find useful.

There is no substitute for screen and there's no short cut, unfortunately, to gain it other than by study.

Take your time to find the type of Trader you want to be.

Once you know, the type of Trader you want to be, you can concentrate all your time going in one direction without any distractions.
  • #186
  • Dec 18, 2014 10:12am Dec 18, 2014 10:12am
Quoting santos23
Time to buy Eur/Usd again.. I believe it will go up around 50 pips. {image}

Extract from investing101's first post

The name of the game is to recognize supply and demand. My method for doing this requires multi-time frames. I prefer to use 15 min, 240 min, and daily. Apply any oscillator of your choice (mine: stochastics RSI) to each of your windows. (Never trade against the direction of an oscillator in a monthly chart, this is your trend). Longer time frames give you the market's trend. So if your monthly is bullish look for discrepancies in your lower time frames. If your daily if bullish look for discrepancies within your smaller time frames. Discrepancies within the small time frames equals quick opportunities while discrepancies within larger time frames like the 4 hour and above equal big moves in the direction of the larger time frames (daily, weekly, or monthly). This is how I determine the direction prices will take.

Hi santos;

I thought the idea of the thread was to Trade with the Primary Trend, in this case the Daily, using the Stochs for timing.
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  • #187
  • Dec 18, 2014 10:20am Dec 18, 2014 10:20am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi abofar; As long as you understand the power of the image, that I posted, it will help with your trading progression. Another part of the puzzle is Market Structure this will be a big help with finding the Primary Trend. There's lots of information about this on Youtube/Google As FXyao said it's then a matter of trading that information with any additional Indicator(s) that you find useful. There is no substitute for screen and there's no short cut, unfortunately, to gain it other than by study. Take your time to find the type of Trader...
Hi Stevepatt
It is really good to find people care about others (A friend In Need Is A Friend Indeed).
Thank you very much for your advice. I am studying supply and demand using zones of supply and demand .It is much involved and there is rooms to make wrong decisions. Investor 101 method attracted me very much. I love to be able to master it. I am using Forex Tester 2 which I have just purchased. If no bother just help me in that line by suggesting things to do or articles to read or how can I practice applying this method.
All the Best
Abofar
  • #188
  • Dec 18, 2014 10:22am Dec 18, 2014 10:22am
Quoting FXyao
{quote} All indicators are created after the event happened, there is no best one to be able to see future as i know. Choose whatever you like and trade. If you know better pleae share in here. thx



This is absolutely correct. Investing101 has said the indicators are not necessary.

On the last chart you posted showing the 15M time frame did you trade the Stochastic
cross on that one & if so did you use another time frame to confirm the trade? Thank
you for your response.
  • #189
  • Dec 18, 2014 10:50am Dec 18, 2014 10:50am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi abofar; As long as you understand the power of the image, that I posted, it will help with your trading progression. Another part of the puzzle is Market Structure this will be a big help with finding the Primary Trend. There's lots of information about this on Youtube/Google As FXyao said it's then a matter of trading that information with any additional Indicator(s) that you find useful. There is no substitute for screen and there's no short cut, unfortunately, to gain it other than by study. Take your time to find the type of Trader...
I agree. The indicators are not needed as investing101 has stated, but some may find them helpful.

Thank you for the charts you have shared. From the last chart you posted is that what you looking at
when entering a trade? I would appreciate it if you could share more of what you are doing to trade
Supply & Demand.
  • #190
  • Dec 18, 2014 12:11pm Dec 18, 2014 12:11pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} I agree. The indicators are not needed as investing101 has stated, but some may find them helpful. Thank you for the charts you have shared. From the last chart you posted is that what you looking at when entering a trade? I would appreciate it if you could share more of what you are doing to trade Supply & Demand.

Hi acetrader;

I don't Trade this way I was only trying to point out to santos how I thought investing101 was meaning this to be traded

The mistake I made in the last chart, that I posted, was not waiting for the Stochastic on M15 to go "Overbought" before selling.

I hate the term "Overbought" and "Oversold" because only the Market decides when it's not going to continue up or down not a Stochastic Indicator.

I only Trade H4 and above using the Weekly Chart to find the Primary Trend and then Buy the Dips in a Bullish Market and Sell the Rallies in a Bearish Market. Post 170

I use Support/Resistance - Demand/Supply - Big Round Numbers - Round Numbers to look for the Price Action to take Trades with the Primary Trend at my back.

It's basically the same as investing101 is doing here that's what got my attention with this thread.
  • #191
  • Dec 18, 2014 12:25pm Dec 18, 2014 12:25pm
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi abofar; Put a 50 EMA on any Daily Chart if the Market is Above it then Bullish or Below it then Bearish if the Candles are breaking both sides of it with no clear direction then the Market is Consolidating. This a very simple way to determine Trend and as good as any other. Take a look at the image below it shows what is trying to be achieved. {image}
I found this similar image online somewhere..

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and thats all it is..cycles within cycles..took me this long to figure out thats what trading is
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  • #192
  • Dec 18, 2014 12:47pm Dec 18, 2014 12:47pm
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even though its nearly christmas, and liquidity will be low with little movement, eur/usd is looking like its setting up for a bullish reversal soon.
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  • #193
  • Dec 18, 2014 3:31pm Dec 18, 2014 3:31pm
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi acetrader; I don't Trade this way I was only trying to point out to santos how I thought investing101 was meaning this to be traded The mistake I made in the last chart, that I posted, was not waiting for the Stochastic on M15 to go "Overbought" before selling. I hate the term "Overbought" and "Oversold" because only the Market decides when it's not going to continue up or down not a Stochastic Indicator. I only Trade H4 and above using the Weekly Chart to find the Primary Trend and then Buy the Dips in a Bullish Market and Sell the Rallies...
That is almost a carbon copy of what I am doing. I am using the Stochastic on the USD/JPY, but it
really is not needed as investing101 has said. Thank you for your response.
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  • #194
  • Dec 18, 2014 3:45pm Dec 18, 2014 3:45pm
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Extract from investing101's first post The name of the game is to recognize supply and demand. My method for doing this requires multi-time frames. I prefer to use 15 min, 240 min, and daily. Apply any oscillator of your choice (mine: stochastics RSI) to each of your windows. (Never trade against the direction of an oscillator in a monthly chart, this is your trend). Longer time frames give you the market's trend. So if your monthly is bullish look for discrepancies in your lower time frames. If your daily if bullish look for discrepancies...

Yes but the EURUSD Rsi stochastic is bullish
"(Never trade against the direction of an oscillator in a monthly chart, this is your trend.."
  • #195
  • Dec 18, 2014 4:45pm Dec 18, 2014 4:45pm
Quoting cuchuflito
{quote} Yes but the EURUSD Rsi stochastic is bullish "(Never trade against the direction of an oscillator in a monthly chart, this is your trend.."

Hi cuchuflito;

I don't care what any Indicator is saying I see the Monthly is in a Bearish Trend.
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  • #196
  • Dec 18, 2014 5:29pm Dec 18, 2014 5:29pm
Hi investing101,

Would you please upload one successfull trade by a picture of the chart? I still dont understand. Please explain again step by step with a chart picture.

Thanks and Regards,
anton
  • #197
  • Dec 18, 2014 7:52pm Dec 18, 2014 7:52pm
Hi All,

can refer to spudfyre thread in http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=36574. he also talk bout the stochastic mtf trading method.

i think the explanation are great over there. this was an old thread. enjoy!
  • #198
  • Dec 18, 2014 8:32pm Dec 18, 2014 8:32pm
Quoting antonsatu
Hi investing101, Would you please upload one successfull trade by a picture of the chart? I still dont understand. Please explain again step by step with a chart picture. Thanks and Regards, anton
Is isn't hard to understand, if your big time frames are bullish (weekly, monthly) look for bearish situations in your small time frames (oversold oscillator).
  • #199
  • Dec 18, 2014 8:39pm Dec 18, 2014 8:39pm
On my charts I also have a sine wave support and resistance indicator that helps find support and resistance, it isn't necessary.



Quoting santos23
{quote} I found this similar image online somewhere.. {image} and thats all it is..cycles within cycles..took me this long to figure out thats what trading is
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  • #200
  • Dec 19, 2014 2:51am Dec 19, 2014 2:51am
Quoting ozziedave
{quote} Hi FXyao I agree use a demo account or a small live account if you are a beginner. For the record, I've been trading Fx for quite some time. Just trying to assist people in reading the market.
Thank you for your input here
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