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  • Nov 28, 2014 8:59am Nov 28, 2014 8:59am
  •  rcsltd
  • | Joined Jul 2013 | Status: Member | 61 Posts
Quoting Zokynho
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{quote} Yes i told you that he enter on M15 method but before few weeks this method didn't exist so I wonder what would be reason to avoid this trade based on H1! Regards
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Udine has given us the strategy to find trades but we must use our experience and knowledge to find reasons not to trade them. If you can find any reason not to take a trade then don't. In your example there was clearly a reason not to take it, as Musicant has described.

You will see examples posted in this thread of exactly the same situation but where the price has pushed through the resistance. But they are not low risk trades.

Think about minimising the risk of failure. If you can find one reason (support, pivot, BRN, long wick etc) not to trade then don't Wait for the next one to come along if there's a reason not to take that one then don't. Eventually one will turn up and there are no reasons not to take it. That one might still hit SL but you are minimising your risk.

Reasons to take the trades are on page 1. Reasons not to take the trades are scattered throughout the thread...and elsewhere too.
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:14am Nov 28, 2014 9:14am
  •  mwsteiner
  • | Joined Apr 2009 | Status: Member | 354 Posts
Quoting Masterrmind
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{quote} First of all never try to test the market or major resistance levels/zones. The market will win every time. The mentality should be ..... how can I position myself to take advantage of what the chart is presenting to me! I kinda know what you were trying to say so I'm just having a friendly dig! I like the way you are starting to analyse your charts...that's good. The question you ask should be answered by yourself because it is you who pulls the trigger and takes the trade or not. You did not take the trade! I think you made the right decision!...
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Yeah thats right MM i will learn PA so i have to ask sometimes.

Thanks for your words, helpful as always.

Greetz Michael

PS: Trade #4 GC to TP
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:18am Nov 28, 2014 9:18am
  •  bubincka
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Trade #10 [Bonus trade #8] GBPJPY +5 TP {image} Masterrmind............
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Hi Master, DR1 here is 5.6 pips above. AMong other reasons did you decide to place the order because two candles before already crossed DR1 with their bodies and PA was bringing a short term rebound ?
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:22am Nov 28, 2014 9:22am
  •  Udine
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back after a nice lunch in the centre with the wife..

Udine
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:27am Nov 28, 2014 9:27am
  •  Zokynho
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{quote} Udine has given us the strategy to find trades but we must use our experience and knowledge to find reasons not to trade them. If you can find any reason not to take a trade then don't. In your example there was clearly a reason not to take it, as Musicant has described. You will see examples posted in this thread of exactly the same situation but where the price has pushed through the resistance. But they are not low risk trades. Think about minimising the risk of failure. If you can find one reason (support, pivot, BRN, long wick etc)...
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Dont worry about me my friend i am not here to deny this method or something like that...I just want to say the problems that bothering me with it and want to learn from Udine as he has great success with it.Want to learn how he avoid those?

I said few times and i will say again (just my thought): In this kind of trading (taking few pips) you will always find reason why not take a trade right especially later when your stop loss been hit (support, resistance, pivots, big numbers, not sync,news,choppy periods bla bla).

If you win you will not look at it at all and you will call this as great trade..I wonder how Udine thinks and why take that not the other...

GBP/USD is great example because he took the same trade but 5 pips earlier because use it on 15 min strategy not 1H. I am interested how would he react if use 1H,will he took same trade on 00 and why not if don't so i can learn faster!

You cannot tell that 5 pis difference here (by taking win or loss is major issue of taking vs not taking trade ) because few days ago he didn't use 15m strategy so he would use same trade as me and i would like to hear explanations asnd his thoughts...

This can be crucial here because if you lose 2 trades that day you need 5 to get everything back so mistakes need to be on minimum or you will have very different results!

P.S Iv'e read thread especially all of his comments few times!

Regards!
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  •  fakeylover
  • | Joined Nov 2014 | Status: Member | 193 Posts
Hey guys...

my trades from today...

CJ +4 and
GU ts out

Any comment?
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:44am Nov 28, 2014 9:44am
  •  Murksler
  • | Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Member | 159 Posts
Last trade for me today.
GU sell 1.56900 - > 1.56850
No screenshot because I'm not at home.

Have a nice weekend. See you next week.
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:45am Nov 28, 2014 9:45am
  •  Udine
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{quote} Dont worry about me my friend i am not here to deny this method or something like that...I just want to say the problems that bothering me with it and want to learn from Udine as he has great success with it.Want to learn how he avoid those? I said few times and i will say again (just my thought): In this kind of trading (taking few pips) you will always find reason why not take a trade right especially later when your stop loss been hit (support, resistance, pivots, big numbers, not sync,news,choppy periods bla bla). If you win you will...
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Ok here we go..
First of all trading the BRN is higher risk...
Now the question: would I trade the BRN like the GU earlier..

the answer:
it depends... on what..

- was the level tested before
- are there any support levels nearby
- is the pair moving nicely in sync with other pairs
- is the pair moving in a nice down trend
- how has been my trading week/month so far
- am I willing to take the risk for a possible loser..

to answer your question..

would I have taken the entry this morning, based on the 1H strategy?

probably the first one yes, the second one not..

hope that answers your question

cheers

Udine
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  • Nov 28, 2014 9:47am Nov 28, 2014 9:47am
  •  Masterrmind
  • Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Master chaos and you master trading | 10,557 Posts
Trade #11 [Bonus trade #9]

GBPUSD +5 TP

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  •  fakeylover
  • | Joined Nov 2014 | Status: Member | 193 Posts
Quoting Masterrmind
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Trade #11 [Bonus trade #9] GBPUSD +5 TP {image} Masterrmind............
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i take the same trade but was a BE...
Why??? I use the H1 candle... TS @35
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  •  iwan73
  • | Joined Nov 2007 | Status: Member | 648 Posts
Quoting Masterrmind
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Trade #11 [Bonus trade #9] GBPUSD +5 TP {image} Masterrmind............
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Hi MM
Why you enter on second M15 candle in this hour, not on the first one?
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:03am Nov 28, 2014 10:03am
  •  rcsltd
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{quote} probably the first one yes, the second one not.. hope that answers your question cheers Udine
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Check back a couple of days and you'll see a couple of tries (and failures) to go below 1.568: -
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:06am Nov 28, 2014 10:06am
  •  Zokynho
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{quote} Ok here we go.. First of all trading the BRN is higher risk... Now the question: would I trade the BRN like the GU earlier.. the answer: it depends... on what.. - was the level tested before - are there any support levels nearby - is the pair moving nicely in sync with other pairs - is the pair moving in a nice down trend - how has been my trading week/month so far - am I willing to take the risk for a possible loser.. to answer your question.. would I have taken the entry this morning, based on the 1H strategy? probably the first one yes,...
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Hello Udine hope you enjoyed your meal ,now it time for some work if you can call that work !

Thank you for answear,maybe you didn't understand which trade I was talked about.

There wasn't round number you took trade on 85 cable based on 15 min chart,i took it on 80 based on 1h chart at close of hour! My sl was hit you take profit!

First trade cable today O.K loser- it happens but in your previous post you said that you wouldn't take second trade! What is difference that you took your and difference than mine few min later on 00 lvl,that was my real question?

Thanks in advance

Regards!
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:09am Nov 28, 2014 10:09am
  •  Masterrmind
  • Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Master chaos and you master trading | 10,557 Posts
Trade #12 [Bonus trade #10]

EURCAD +5 TP

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Trade #13 [Bonus trade #11]

AUDCAD +5 TP

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Comment: both in sync that's why the AUDCAD was also taken but RmUP little reddish!

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  •  Zokynho
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{quote} Check back a couple of days and you'll see a couple of tries (and failures) to go below 1.568: - {image}
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I agree with you but there is only 5 pips difference beetwen Udine and mine entry and we look at support and resistance as zone not exact pips so i think there is no much difference and just want to know Udine's thought regarding this!


Regards!
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:12am Nov 28, 2014 10:12am
  •  Udine
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{quote} Hello Udine hope you enjoyed your meal ,now it time for some work if you can call that work ! Thank you for answear,maybe you didn't understand which trade I was talked about. There wasn't round number you took trade on 85 cable based on 15 min chart,i took it on 80 based on 1h chart at close of hour! My sl was hit you take profit! First trade cable today O.K loser- it happens but in your previous post you said that you wouldn't take second trade! What is difference that you took your and difference than mine few min later on 00...
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on the 15M its a different story... and a 70 %+ for the month helps, so willing to take more risk

Udine
Sleep less, live fast, as it aint gonna last ;)
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:15am Nov 28, 2014 10:15am
  •  bubincka
  • Joined Nov 2009 | Status: You are what you is | 1,943 Posts
GU to TP (H1)
Comment : if it fails to go up, it will go down
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:19am Nov 28, 2014 10:19am
  •  Zokynho
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{quote} on the 15M its a different story... and a 70 %+ for the month helps, so willing to take more risk Udine
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Ok thank you for now but I am sure i will have more questions!
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:20am Nov 28, 2014 10:20am
  •  Masterrmind
  • Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Master chaos and you master trading | 10,557 Posts
Trade #14 [Bonus trade #12]

EURJPY +5 TP

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Comment: When the hourly open is that close to the level I take the initiative!

Masterrmind.............
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  • Nov 28, 2014 10:20am Nov 28, 2014 10:20am
  •  jmag4
  • | Joined Jul 2014 | Status: Member | 18 Posts
Hi Udine, haven't posted in the thread for a few days but I'm doing very well. Up 17.47% in ~2 weeks.
Quick question involving the i-profit tracker. Is there a way to make it calculate how much % you've gained on the account from a day to day basis?
Currently it's saying I'm up 2.11% for the day but that 2% is on my original deposit, and I was hoping to calculate it using continuous compouding if that makes any sense?

example:

Deposit 1000
day 1: 1020 = 2% gain
day 2: 1040.40 = 2% gain (on previous 1020)
day3: 1061.208 = 2% gain (on previous 1040.4)

Rather than:

Deposit 1000
day1: 1020 = 2% gain
day2: 1040 = 2% gain (on initial 1000)
day3: 1060 = 2% gain (on initial 1000)
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