Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
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{quote}bro did this effect your trading? the answer is no, so what there mt-4 server stop just before spreads widen over the weekend, also you do know IBFX close at 4pm on fridays and not at 5pm, i use to trade on currenex platform average spreads was 0.3 on eur/usd and right around 4:55pm that spread will jump to 10+ pips, anyway you keep focus on things you have no control over things that don't effect your trading, you spend more time worrying about things like that then REAL TRADING {image} BTW my intrest is in common sense and logic...
) and yes, of course I knew IBFX stopped at 4 .... lolI wouldn't say I'm spending any time "worrying" about it. It was just an observation of an anomaly I thought odd so I asked a question about it. Perhaps that's my biggest issue in life, a never ending thirst for knowledge and understanding.
... lolI'm not going to lose any sleep over it but the question still remains. It's the same server (or so I was told by FXCM) so how then could it report a different result? But your right buddy, it matters little in the end. What can I say? Unanswered questions .... NAG me.
Your "interest" is why we've been friends here for a long time now.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
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- Oct 26, 2014 6:54pm Oct 26, 2014 6:54pm
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{quote} I'm running FXCM MT4 build 745 on a demo basis on my Mac with an emulator to make sure it's relatively bug-free. I'm surprised that I haven't had huge problems with it so far in light of the fact that I'm using an emulator. There were some emulator-related installation issues at the beginning (which you won't have if your a pure Windows machine user). Other than that, I haven't had any problems with it besides getting used to the GUI. I've been using Trading Station, so this has quite a different feel to it. I haven't and don't really...
I figure I'll load a separate install of 735 (is it up to 745 already? ..lol) and test it. I have no issue with the latest so long as it's the greatest (or at least not worse than current)
To your next post about MT4 and TS on the same account. Mine is. Yours is not? I have only one account. The way it works as I've been told is, I had MT4 through IBFX, after the transfer to FXCM's "MT4 server", I have access to TS "through" the MT4 sever and log in for that single account. Taking a trade in either is seen and controllable in the other.
They both report the same MT4USDReal9 server and account number of course.
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- Oct 26, 2014 9:16pm Oct 26, 2014 9:16pm
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{quote} Thank you ZebraSquirl. I appreciate the input.
Can I ask what issues you had with the previous MT4? I don't don't want to load funds into a separate MT4 account if it's going to give me a headache.
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
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- Oct 27, 2014 1:24am Oct 27, 2014 1:24am
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{quote} Very true my friend. It didn't effect my trading (very little other than my own mistakes ever do
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{quote} It could be because they assigned me an MT4 demo account (which is what I asked for). Haven't tried to access my real from the MT4 ... . Can I ask what issues you had with the previous MT4? I don't don't want to load funds into a separate MT4 account if it's going to give me a headache.
If by "previous" you mean the 670 build I'm running right now for my live account? The only real issue I've noticed with it is when first installing it and then transferring all my existing folders over (i.e. indies, profiles and such), the charts are not live (blank) when loading any of my saved profiles. I have to actually close every chart, reopen them and set them all up again the way I want. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a saved profile. No big deal if you're only watch a few pairs but when you have 28 of them, it's a tad annoying.
I'll stick with 670 until I can verify any newer builds are stable and reliable.Other than that, the FXCM version of MT4 (670) has prevented me from using my custom tick chart indies and that truly sucks as I was in the middle of a new and quite promising looking project there. Jason directed me to a link for some free FXCM indies that would supposedly solve that. They didn't so that's a bit frustrating. In fact, the "install" process went successfully (so it said) but the indies aren't even in the list. ?? Why they can't just provide the indies "without" the silly install is beyond me.
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- Oct 27, 2014 5:10am Oct 27, 2014 5:10am
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{quote} Well yes, the demo servers are separate and apart from any of the live servers. If by "previous" you mean the 670 build I'm running right now for my live account? The only real issue I've noticed with it is when first installing it and then transferring all my existing folders over (i.e. indies, profiles and such), the charts are not live (blank) when loading any of my saved profiles. I have to actually close every chart, reopen them and set them all up again the way I want. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a saved profile. No big deal...
I've noticed the downloaded indie/EA "hunt" feature of this platform, though. You download it. Compile/debug it for good measure. Save it to where you should be able to find it with the Navigator. And then you proceed to hunt for the file either in "Downloads" or the MT4 folder you saved it to. It only seems to magically appear after you've closed and then reopened the platform. Interesting feature ... .
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
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- Edited 10:38am Oct 27, 2014 8:08am | Edited 10:38am
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- Oct 27, 2014 10:15am Oct 27, 2014 10:15am
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You know? I'm trying REALLY hard to believe in FXCM but then something always pops up to cause me doubts.http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...65#post7824565 Care to explain Jason?
{quote}lol it's the weekend spreads go back to normal once market open, stay a little wide for the first few hours tho
{quote} Hey PT) but that doesn't explain the difference between the two platforms. Same account same server, should not both platforms show the same spread regardless of what it is?
{quote}some of you traders complain, NEVER MIND I GIVE UP. wish you luck with your trading
{quote}bro did this effect your trading? the answer is no, so what there mt-4 server stop just before spreads widen over the weekend, also you do know IBFX close at 4pm on fridays and not at 5pm, i use to trade on currenex platform average spreads was 0.3 on eur/usd and right around 4:55pm that spread will jump to 10+ pips, anyway you keep focus on things you have no control over things that don't effect your trading, you spend more time worrying about things like that then REAL TRADING {image} BTW my intrest is in common sense and logic
{quote} I have to agree with this, some of the comments/complaints in this thread are comical.
As PT mentioned, the spreads you're referring to are from the weekend when trading was closed. Weekend prices have no effect on trades, which means they can't trigger any pending entry orders, stops or limits. They are simply indicative quotes streamed over the weekend by some liquidity providers that can help traders get an idea for where the market might re-open on Sunday at 5pm New York time.
You asked why the weekend spreads on the MT4 platform differ from the weekend spreads on Trading Station. It's because the MT4 platform stops updating prices when trading closes for the weekend on Friday at 5pm New York time, and resumes updating prices when trading re-opens for the new week on Sunday at 5pm. By contrast, Trading Station continues to receive price quotes over the weekend, but as mentioned previously these prices are merely indicative, not tradable.
As to why you didn't notice such an occurrence over the weekend with your former broker before they decided to discontinue support for your MT4 account, it's worth noting that, unlike FXCM, most other brokers don't offer you the ability to trade an MT4 account from multiple other platforms. That means prior to FXCM's acquisition of your account, you had no other reference with which to compare the closing price you saw on MT4 to a more current indicative price quote over the weekend.
Now that trading has re-opened for the new week, you can confirm for yourself that the spreads you see on MT4 match the spreads on Trading Station and our website: http://www.fxcm.com/advantages/sprea...0000000MusRAAS
Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Thanks,
Jason
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- Oct 27, 2014 10:18am Oct 27, 2014 10:18am
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{quote} I was able to log in today. Thanks Jaxon.
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- Oct 27, 2014 10:38am Oct 27, 2014 10:38am
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In an ideal world, I would like to be able to access a single FXCM account from both Trading Station and MT4. There is stuff I like to do in Trading Station that I don't like to do in MT4 and indicators and such in MT4 that I can't use in Trading Station. Nature of the beast, I guess ... .
To your next post about MT4 and TS on the same account. Mine is. Yours is not? I have only one account. The way it works as I've been told is, I had MT4 through IBFX, after the transfer to FXCM's "MT4 server", I have access to TS "through" the MT4 sever and log in for that single account. Taking a trade in either is seen and controllable in the other. They both report the same MT4USDReal9 server and account number of course.
I have good news for you, ZebraSquirl!
As Chris mentioned, your FXCM MT4 account login details already give you access to other FXCM trading platforms such as Mirror Trader and all versions for Trading Station (desktop, web and mobile) http://www.fxcm.com/products/compare...0000000MusRAAS
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- Oct 27, 2014 11:50am Oct 27, 2014 11:50am
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the FXCM version of MT4 (670) has prevented me from using my custom tick chart indies and that truly sucks as I was in the middle of a new and quite promising looking project there. Jason directed me to a link for some free FXCM indies that would supposedly solve that. They didn't so that's a bit frustrating. In fact, the "install" process went successfully (so it said) but the indies aren't even in the list. ?? Why they can't just provide the indies "without" the silly install is beyond me.
As you have noted, MetaQuotes has recently made several updates to the MT4 platform. We had to make changes to our own apps on FXCMapps.com in order to make them compatible with the latest MT4 builds. The reason you can't run these apps on your MT4 platform is because you're running an old build. You can download the latest MT4 build from our website (currently build 745): http://download.fxcorporate.com/FXCM-MT4Install.exe
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- Oct 27, 2014 11:58am Oct 27, 2014 11:58am
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{quote} Just curious here. Has anyone installed this version and used it long enough to know if it's stable and has no bugs? I've prevented the auto-update of my MT4 after reading about the nightmares of build 711. I'm still running 670 (which has it's own issues) because that last thing I need is "more" problems with a platform. I use Trade Station as well and I like it but let's face it, it just can't do some of things we all like about MT4.Any "user" feedback on the latest 735 build...
{quote} I'm running FXCM MT4 build 745 on a demo basis on my Mac with an emulator to make sure it's relatively bug-free. I'm surprised that I haven't had huge problems with it so far in light of the fact that I'm using an emulator. There were some emulator-related installation issues at the beginning (which you won't have if your a pure Windows machine user). Other than that, I haven't had any problems with it besides getting used to the GUI. I've been using Trading Station, so this has quite a different feel to it. I haven't and don't really intend...
{quote} Thank you ZebraSquirl. I appreciate the input.
Hi ZebraSquirl,
Like Chris, I am grateful for your feedback on MT4 build 745. I'm currently using build 735 and can confirm it is compatible with the latest versions of our custom indicators, scripts and EAs available on FXCMapps.com.
You mentioned having some emulator-related issues installing MT4 on your Mac. Have you considered using a Virtual Private Server (VPS) instead? Not only would that allow you to run MT4, but you would be able to keep the platform running 24-hours a day even when your own computer is disconnected from the internet or turned off. That's especially useful if you automate strategies. VPS access normally costs $30 per month but is free for qualified FXCM clients: http://www.fxcm.com/forms/vps-hostin...0000000MusRAAS
You also expressed concerns about slippage. It's worth noting that FXCM's MT4 platform is unique. We enhanced the functionality of the Maximum Deviation feature of the platform, so it only limits negative slippage, but not positive slippage. That means regardless of how high or how low you set your Maximum Deviation tolerance, your order will always get filled at the best available prices from 10+ competing liquidity providers and receive the full benefits of any positive slippage that's available. More details are available in this post: http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...11#post7764911
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{quote} {quote} {quote} Hi ZebraSquirl, Like Chris, I am grateful for your feedback on MT4 build 745. I'm currently using build 735 and can confirm it is compatible with the latest versions of our custom indicators, scripts and EAs available on FXCMapps.com. You mentioned having some emulator-related issues installing MT4 on your Mac. Have you considered using a Virtual Private Server (VPS) instead? Not only would that allow you to run MT4, but you would be able to keep the platform running 24-hours a day even when your own computer is disconnected...
I've got the Mac-related emulator issues ironed out (helps to have your Wine version up-to-date, for any Mac users out there; now works smoother than snot on a doorknob), but will look at a VPS at some point in time.
Oh, and can you make it so that I can get positive slippage all the time?
Fireworks are fun ... as long as you don't blow your fingers off.
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- Oct 28, 2014 8:41am Oct 28, 2014 8:41am
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Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
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