Looking to market a new fx/stock/futures/anymarket indicator

Dear Fx traders, welcome and thank you for the visit.

As the title of the thread suggest, i am looking to marketing a new powerful indicator, it is my opinion this indicator is something very powerful.
Sometime in the future, when the marketing will be started, every forex broker will offer it in their platform to their customers, every stock broker will offer it in their platform to their customers, every futures and options brokers will do the same.
Also, every trading floor in every bank and hedgefunds all over the world will have it in every chart in every monitor all the time.

As you can guess, we are not talking about anything remotely comparable to any indicator you have ever seen before. Period.

I know this sounds very arrogant from me, and i perfectly understand the first impressions that these words are giving you, i would be the first to think that these are just ridiculous sentences and that probably this discovery (i was to write "creation", but in truth i only discovered it) is the umpteenth waste of time.
I can assure you that this is not the case, i write what i write risking to sound arrogant only because i know what i'm talking about.

At this point some more details about this indicator can be helpful, it is essentially a graphical representation of the whole inner market (chart) structure, somehow resembling the mandelbrot fractal geometry concept ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal ).

As wikipedia say:
"A fractal is a natural phenomenon or a mathematical set that exhibits a repeating pattern that displays at every scale. If the replication is exactly the same at every scale, it is called a self-similar pattern.Fractals can also be nearly the same at different levels. This latter pattern is illustrated in Figure 1. Fractals also includes the idea of a detailed pattern that repeats itself.".

So, what i have created is an indicator that show a graphical representation of each of these patterns/fractals/market-structures (you name it) at the same time all separately (even if they all are closely connected to each other).
The trader that use it will have a tremendous advantage, and will be able to forecast with great accuracy many market movements.
As you guess, this is not a "buy now" or "sell now" indicator, it just show you a huge amount of information about the chart/market, then the trader is going to use these information to make his trading decisions, and of course great trading decisions always comes from experience/practice.

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Now, i've created this indicator around 9 years ago, i've used it a lot (i've created tens of slightly different indicators based on the same principle, but more or less they show all the same things), every year i make extensive google searches in order to see if somebody somewhere have developed the same indicator, but never find any evidence of its discovery.
So i always have this thought about marketing it, perhaps is a billion dollar opportunity, i don't know yet.
I've just decided to give it a try, but as i have no experience whatsoever in the marketing business, i don't know how to move.

If you have some experience in the marketing business, in the copyrights, patents, or just have some advice or idea or whatever, get in touch with me (a private message would be good), keep in mind that i'm not looking to make things fast, i want to make a really successful worldwide marketing operation so the first step is collect information of what to do and what to do not.

The idea is that one day millions of traders and analysts (banks, hedgefunds, institutionals, brokers, retailers, etc) all around the world will use it everyday, even if half of them pay 10 dollars/month as using fee/rights that would be a good passive income for me and my partners.

I have in mind my target, but don't know the road yet.
So.. here i am.


Notes:

--- I'm not selling this indicator to any private person, for any amount, so don't even ask.
--- I'm not giving screenshots of it or more detailed information to any private person, for any amount, so don't even ask.
Again, what i'm looking to do is market it to the whole world in some way, not sell privately to anybody.

Just to make things clear, this is not a commercial thread, i'm just asking for help to somebody that know what are the things to do in the marketing business.
I had to write about this indicator in order to give information, but this doesn't mean that i'm willing to sell it to anyone privately, for any amount.

As a final note, i have no intention to ever ask any money to anyone for whatever reason, i can finance the marketing operation by myself (if any financing would be needed).

Thank you!

FYI, all indicators provided by brokers in their platform are totally free - I mean they didn't had to buy them in order to provide them to their clients.

The only way is to sell your work to traders ... not brokers.

Eheh of course they didn't had to buy them, as you said all such indicators are totally free and widely available on internet, and all such indicators are inventions/creations of 100 years ago, all them are different graphical representations of historical-prices averages, it's incredible that they offer them, and even more incredible people actually use them in their trading!

About selling it to traders, i'm not interested in that, and actually i think that a broker that offer such indicator to their clients, would attract soo many traders from other brokers for obvious reasons, so from a broker perspective it's a very good deal, the problem is exactly how to arrange such deal.

I cannot contact a broker and ask them to buy something they don't know what it is, i cannot show them a screenshot for example, as they would "easily" reverse-engineer it by looking at the picture, and let one of their coders code it from 0.

It is a very powerful concept and at the same time it's a very simple one, once you see it and you understand the concept behind it, you can code it in a few hours.

This is the core problem that keep me blocked in my sharing dream, i guess the only possible first step is to patent it in every "major" country.


Thanks for your post!

If it is so easily codable just by seeing it on chart, you have no choice : wait for all brokers to accept your deal because if you make a deal with a single one, the "secret" will be recoded in no time for the others ... and freely.

Yep that's where a patent can get useful

A patent won't stop any - dishonest - marketer to copy your tool and sell it all over the internet. They really don't care about the risk.

Wish you well in your quest.

I see your point, but this is how the world works.

Take microsoft as example, there are millions (if not billions) of computers that run a pirated windows copy!
In fact microsoft itself don't really enforce the pirated copies at all, they know that pirated copies are a part of the business.
Same for the movies, millions of people don't go to watch movies in the theaters, instead they download the pirated dvd/br rip from the internet, and watch the movie without pay a cent to the producers. Nobody enforce this, as it is a part of the business.
Same for the games, for the music, for everything that is being sold, you can find a pirated/free copy somewhere.

Yet, microsoft is still one of the most powerful companies of the world, the movie-business is still a multibillionaire one, the games for computer and consoles are still a very big business, same for the music.
Each of these sectors continue to generate soo much wealth for those on the top, and a decent salary for the millions of people that have a job within them.

I don't care if you will find tens versions of my indicator on google and on every public forum, internet is FREEdom, you can find everything for free, and this is good actually i like it.

However, the economy still goes on, if an office want to use windows in their computer, they have to buy a real copy.
If a disco-pub or a movie want to play a music, they must buy it.
If a movie theater want to show a movie, they must buy it.
About the games, it's not really my world so i don't know why somebody should buy them instead of download them, but i guess many people buy them, otherwise nobody would make them anymore (if nobody make money, why waste time?).

Yeah, my idea here is catch a big slice of the business, not the full 100% potential (nobody ever reached such a thing!)
The average retail trader want to grab a pirate version of the indicator? Fine just make a google search and download it for free (however keep in mind that more than half of internet users don't even know how to install an indicator).
A broker want to offer it in their platform? PAY

That's how i see it..

I fully agree with your point. That's part of the business.

... and I know little bit about this ... All trading tools i've developped many years ago are now free or sold "illegally" by dozens of marketers. Even some I coded freely for threads here on FF are sold on eBay and other places !

a patent will not help you.... so long as it is coded independently no copyright will be infringed and as for a concept patent that will not work either they only have to make it look a little different or give in an extra feature etc.... microsoft has had copycats of word and excel from the day they started nothing you can do about it.

but if it is really that good, why don't you just live off all the money you have earned over the last 9 years from it and keep your little secret?

Yep that's what i'm currently doing (living off the money i earn), but i'm going anyway to release this knowledge to the public before i die, even if without any patent and without making any money out of it.
That would be the last thing i do before die, but as for now, the idea of release it in a way that let me earn enormous amount of money is still lighting.

If i don't find such a way, i will release it maybe in 40 years from now just for the sake of become famous (and who cares about making money in the process).

I have gone through the above posts and here what I can advise.
Why don't you sell trading signals based on this new indicator that you have discovered?

Ok, you say you have gone through the above posts and then you ask such a question.
I guess that's all i can get here in FF, i've opened this thread with the best intentions (find somebody with some experience in the marketing of something new), and the first thing that happened is FF to place my thread with the scammers threads (sorry, this commercial section to me is only a den of scammers, i've taken some time a few days ago to read most of the thread in this section, and the majority of them are just people trying to sell moving-averages to other people.

Anyway.. some smart moderator have decided that this thread belong to the scammers section, and here we are.

Now you ask me why i don't sell trading signals?
I'm done with this website, it's simply full of idiots.

The only good thing is the economic calendar, but guess what, there are soo many websites on the web that offer even a better economic calendar than FF.

So, thanks for reading, and bye.