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  • #381
  • Sep 26, 2014 12:51pm Sep 26, 2014 12:51pm
Quoting billytt
{quote} Bud, get a grip. It doesn't matter if Phil has made £100 or £100 million if that is what he says leave him to it. Listen to what he says he is a an excellent motivator try compounding say 3 trades using high leverage and watch your account grow. I never used leverage but I compounded 10 trades in a row 3 times, try doubling £1 10 times, then try it with a couple of zeroes added on, be good, ridiculous amounts can be made trading you need balls
somehow I feel honored I wasn't banned.
I am not some internet troll or hater. Just wrote my opinion. I do not deny his knowledge, just wrote that Idea of charging 1k for whatever reason when you have millions seems weird. Wrote it, he answered, no point digging it further.
One thing I know is if I were that rich I would mentor only my friends, I would help my family and would focus on something for the people, like financing researches on cancer or hiv as I believe these can be cured and once we'll discover it, healing of cancer will be as easy as healing of flue. I'd travel the world, I'd enjoy life, I'd help others but not for 1k, but that's just me, different people,different priorities
Personally I believe it is possible to get to financial independence with fx, and as you wrote, one needs balls
On my way to financial independence - if others can do it - I can do it
  • #382
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:09pm Sep 26, 2014 1:09pm
Quoting Eur Usd
{quote} somehow I feel honored I wasn't banned. I am not some internet troll or hater. Just wrote my opinion. I do not deny his knowledge, just wrote that Idea of charging 1k for whatever reason when you have millions seems weird. Wrote it, he answered, no point digging it further. One thing I know is if I were that rich I would mentor only my friends, I would help my family and would focus on something for the people, like financing researches on cancer or hiv as I believe these can be cured and once we'll discover it, healing of cancer will...
From my experiences, that few things are more disappointing than a committed teacher finding himself with uncommitted pupils.
Said $1000 isn't that much, if for real value ( and that is for everyone themselves to decide what is real value for them, or not, I would think). And surely, for one who pays for something, be it education, tend to be more committed toward it, then someone just getting in for a free/fun ride, without real convictions.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #383
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:17pm Sep 26, 2014 1:17pm
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} From my experiences, that few things are more disappointing than a committed teacher finding himself with uncommitted pupils. Said $1000 isn't that much, if for real value ( and that is for everyone themselves to decide what is real value for them, or not, I would think). And surely, for one who pays for something, be it education, tend to be more committed toward it, then someone just getting in for a free/fun ride, without real convictions.
I already wrote about it on previous page with bald print. And on the other hand I agree - whoever pays will be more committed to follow the training.
On my way to financial independence - if others can do it - I can do it
  • #384
  • Edited 1:52pm Sep 26, 2014 1:42pm | Edited 1:52pm
You are welcome for the link on the Japanese share trader.

I thought it was about 18 months ago that I was last savaged for me being me as much as I have been here in this thread. But in fact it turns out to be only 14 months ago.

The OP of that thread then, a trans-sexual named Cindyxxxx PM'd me about his poll; his plan being to get me to discuss my trading style etc. Yes he is a troll, and he is well-known to use multiple IDs on FF.

My first post to his childishness was to quote his PM to me. My second post to his thread says it all.

Anyone who wants to can go back to the beginning of that thread to vote am I real or not.

The result has no meaning to me.

And yes you are correct. Anything not paid for is never valued as being worthwhile. This is basic to the human condition.

Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} From my experiences, that few things are more disappointing than a committed teacher finding himself with uncommitted pupils. Said $1000 isn't that much, if for real value ( and that is for everyone themselves to decide what is real value for them, or not, I would think). And surely, for one who pays for something, be it education, tend to be more committed toward it, then someone just getting in for a free/fun ride, without real convictions.
  • #385
  • Sep 26, 2014 6:13pm Sep 26, 2014 6:13pm
Quoting piphunt3r
{quote} A better system than the Genesis Matrix? Are you kidding me? I thougth you only need to make 30 pips a day to have a very pleasant account in a year remember? ;-) Thanks for your contribution RJ! Cheers
As I said in that thread, the 30 pips/day example does not allow for withdrawals, losses, public holidays etc. It also does not allow for better than 30 pip days.

I have developed another, easier and better way to achieve the same result. I'm sure that each of us wants to make life easier for ourselves, no?
Doing what you like is Freedom. Liking what you do is Happiness.
  • #386
  • Sep 27, 2014 1:03am Sep 27, 2014 1:03am
Quoting dancingphil
You are welcome for the link on the Japanese share trader. I thought it was about 18 months ago that I was last savaged for me being me as much as I have been here in this thread. But in fact it turns out to be only 14 months ago. The OP of that thread then, a trans-sexual named Cindyxxxx PM'd me about his poll; his plan being to get me to discuss my trading style etc. Yes he is a troll, and he is well-known to use multiple IDs on FF. My first post to his childishness was to quote his PM to me. My second...
You know Phil, I do have to give you some credit. In a world where PC is nearly suffocating, at least you have decided to throw those shackles off. For that, I do commend you.

As a veteran trader I have to say that, you did give away an awful lot of info on how you trade in that link to one of your posts. In theory it is possible to turn 200 bucks into a large account, and if you are reclusive to the point that you say you are, it is not that hard with the ability to hedge and some serious leverage.

My big question to you is why do you bother with mentoring? Everyone has a psychological/emotional payoff in everything they do, everyday. What's your payoff?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #387
  • Edited 12:31pm Sep 27, 2014 2:24am | Edited 12:31pm
I think you will find that most successful people will take the time to help out those who are genuinely interested to learn how to be successful. And over the nearly two years, it has grown into a diverse but intimate group, each with skills and input as well as their desire to learn. There are some very lively discussions, especially in the Skype Group.

Well over 100 have asked, but most were not accepted because they were looking for an easy/lazy way to get rich without effort.

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} You know Phil, I do have to give you some credit. In a world where PC is nearly suffocating, at least you have decided to throw those shackles off. For that, I do commend you. As a veteran trader I have to say that, you did give away an awful lot of info on how you trade in that link to one of your posts. In theory it is possible to turn 200 bucks into a large account, and if you are reclusive to the point that you say you are, it is not that hard with the ability to hedge and some serious leverage. My big question to you is why do you bother...
  • #388
  • Sep 27, 2014 3:18am Sep 27, 2014 3:18am
Quoting realjumper
{quote} As I said in that thread, the 30 pips/day example does not allow for withdrawals, losses, public holidays etc. It also does not allow for better than 30 pip days. I have developed another, easier and better way to achieve the same result. I'm sure that each of us wants to make life easier for ourselves, no?
Compounding is the most powerful force in the universe. Even with 20 pips a day you are a lucky fellow in less than a year :-)

I'm very glad that i've stumbled over the Genesis thread. The life now is much easier than to work another 40 years for a cigar smoking fat boss behind a mahagony desk.

I'm happy that you found a even easier way to trade for you! My goals for now are to improve my patience and to master the genesis system. Before i even think to get involved in the champions league like RJ and develop something like genesis or even something better.
  • #389
  • Sep 27, 2014 3:19pm Sep 27, 2014 3:19pm
Quoting dancingphil
I think you will find that most successful people will take the time to help out those who are genuinely interested to learn how to be successful. And over the nearly two years, it has grown into a diverse but intimate group, each with skills and input as well as their desire to learn. There are some very lively discussions, especially in the Skype Group. Well over 100 have asked, but most were not accepted because they were looking for an easy/lazy way to get rich without effort. {quote}
The keys to the kingdom are right here on the factory. The lazy will not get them because they will not read and study, and the astute traders all trade the same way.

You managed to avoid my question, however. So I will ask again. What is your psychological/emotional payoff for mentoring people?

This is not a gotcha question, I really wish to know.

Edit: I realize that I asked a sensitive question. Feel free to PM me, if you wish. I will not share your message. If I do, I would suggest that Twee ban me, and he will.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #390
  • Sep 27, 2014 4:06pm Sep 27, 2014 4:06pm
It's not that I avoided your question; more that you didn't read the subtlety in my answer.

Every where I go, since I was a kid; always controversy.

I wrote a long answer to your question, but deleted it.

The short answer is that I am a male slut, a seducer of other people's wives by the many dozens in my life time. A non-conformist. A non-believer in Govt, big business, religions and I enjoy animals and the warmth of the sun on my skin far more than people.

It started out of nothing and it grew into a tight-knit family.

I've done it because I have enjoyed it.

A purely selfish pay-back for me.

Quoting jmn5611
{quote} The keys to the kingdom are right here on the factory. The lazy will not get them because they will not read and study, and the astute traders all trade the same way. You managed to avoid my question, however. So I will ask again. What is your psychological/emotional payoff for mentoring people? This is not a gotcha question, I really wish to know. Edit: I realize that I asked a sensitive question. Feel free to PM me, if you wish. I will not share your message. If I do, I would suggest that Twee ban me, and he will.
  • #391
  • Sep 27, 2014 4:18pm Sep 27, 2014 4:18pm
Quoting dancingphil
It's not that I avoided your question; more that you didn't read the subtlety in my answer. Every where I go, since I was a kid; always controversy. I wrote a long answer to your question, but deleted it. The short answer is that I am a male slut, a seducer of other people's wives by the many dozens in my life time. A non-conformist. A non-believer in Govt, big business, religions and I enjoy animals and the warmth of the sun on my skin far more than people. It started out of nothing and it grew into a tight-knit family. I've done it because...
I would agree with what I highlighted as your profile picture reveals that you most certainly love the sun!
  • #392
  • Sep 27, 2014 4:19pm Sep 27, 2014 4:19pm
Does anyone know of any good trade copier for mt4 if all my accounts are on the same computer? Freeware of course.
  • #393
  • Sep 27, 2014 10:16pm Sep 27, 2014 10:16pm
Quoting dancingphil
It's not that I avoided your question; more that you didn't read the subtlety in my answer. Every where I go, since I was a kid; always controversy. I wrote a long answer to your question, but deleted it. The short answer is that I am a male slut, a seducer of other people's wives by the many dozens in my life time. A non-conformist. A non-believer in Govt, big business, religions and I enjoy animals and the warmth of the sun on my skin far more than people. It started out of nothing and it grew into a tight-knit family. I've done it because I have...
Thanks Phil, perhaps we will run into one another again someday. Till then, keep on living the life you live, and congrats on having the stones to do it.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #394
  • Edited Sep 28, 2014 12:04am Sep 27, 2014 11:25pm | Edited Sep 28, 2014 12:04am
Quoting hfTrader
{quote} um, i lived in China for 28 years i think i may knowt more about it than you do. Guangzhou is in the south, period nobody here thinks its in the south east.

take a geography lesson and stick a compass in the middle of china and you might learn something , what you or the locals call its position is irrelevant to gegeographical fact , your typical of the narrow mindedness of lots of people on this thread, it's not up for interpretation . By the way how's your trading account??? Further to the above if Guangzhou is not in South Eastern China could you give please give us all an example of a city in China that is in the South East ????
When you're in the land of HOPE, you're done, get out of there, WALK AWAY
  • #395
  • Sep 28, 2014 12:10am Sep 28, 2014 12:10am
Good Sunday to all....I have been skulking around the FF threads on and of for a few years now and i have to say this is proving to be one of the more interesting ones. Today i decided to jump into the shark tank so i created this my first and only member ID.
I will sum up the Big question here. Is it possible to parlay a small account into millions???? I believe the answer to be yes and i will use Texas Holdem as an example. The game involves multiple skill sets on several fronts, including math, analytically thinking, stamina and a clear sense of emotional self-awareness with control over those emotions. Every year thousands of competitors buy in with the hopes of putting all those skills together in an attempt to take home the 10,000,000 dollar first prize. And every year someone pulls it off. In countless games around the world many others succeed all be it at a lower level. Not too difficult to see the similarities to FX.
Is Dancingphil for real??? I have no way of knowing for sure. Is it possible he is???? Darn right its possible. No different than high stakes poker. I have read 80% of his posts here and can not find a crack in the story. At the very least he has opened up way of thinking that expands human potential.
Good luck people. Keep the positive thoughts flowing.
  • #396
  • Edited 12:40pm Sep 28, 2014 7:54am | Edited 12:40pm
Quoting dancingphil
98% of people in the world suffer from your kind of fatalism; not wishing to extend their healthy lives. They even have a name for it; "pro-aging trance". ...
Have a nice life mate, however short you choose to make it last. {quote}
Well, I am a science PhD and I know how pseudo science and UFOs look like. So I am not even going to dignify your rant on Aubrey whatever. Coming to the more relevant question about your methods. It is theoretically possible but unlikely that you have achieved the success you claim to have simply because of one key error in your reasoning. To be that accurate in your trading (30:1) you need to have your head out of bodily crevices, be it yours or those of your purported mistresses. You are too effing full of it to have the dedication required. Just doesn't add up.

Initially I thought the padding was in the numbers you are quoting (of the amount of gold, dollar etc) but I now think the padding was in the unit itself. 386 gms? Maybe. You keep claiming that you have nothing to prove to anyone, but you keep throwing around numbers and heresies (without proof of course). If you really don't need to prove anything to anybody you would have been a much quieter and less boisterous person. And dude, 'the seducer of wives', I know you have a vivid imagination, but even in your dreams try a more developed corner of the world as your backdrop - must have gotten your ass handed over to you that made you fly somewhere where you can rest in anonymous glory. We all know what exploitation looks like, what your so called 'seduction' means and that is why in a previous post, I remarked on the 'meaningfulness' your existence brings to a relatively impoverished yet innocent and happy corner of the world.

PS: I have been ignored by the OP (and the favor returned) so I cannot post here anymore. Good riddance to the scammer. Those of you who want to know the ups and downs of a real trader who hasn't made millions and doesn't claim to have done so, feel free to check out my live trade explorers.
The price will go where it has to go.
  • #397
  • Sep 28, 2014 8:03am Sep 28, 2014 8:03am
can we get back to the hedging discussion please?
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  • #398
  • Sep 28, 2014 11:22am Sep 28, 2014 11:22am
Quoting grrbear
can we get back to the hedging discussion please? {image}
I am interested what's the story behind this picture
On my way to financial independence - if others can do it - I can do it
  • #399
  • Sep 29, 2014 3:30am Sep 29, 2014 3:30am
Quoting Master_kiwa
Does anyone know of any good trade copier for mt4 if all my accounts are on the same computer? Freeware of course.
http://www.fxblue.com/appstore/app.aspx?id=2
  • #400
  • Sep 29, 2014 4:27am Sep 29, 2014 4:27am
Quoting TheMaxx
{quote} http://www.fxblue.com/appstore/app.aspx?id=2
Thanks so much for taking the time in responding. Over the weekend I found the very same app, but it doesnt work at all. It even comes with instructions on how to us it, and it doesnt work. Could be that it was for the old build of mt4. Yet, thanks again for doing some research.
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