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  • #621
  • Sep 25, 2014 2:17pm Sep 25, 2014 2:17pm
Here is today PM's update:

Basket P&L: -103 Euros
Basket TP: +30 Euros
Total Equity change since start of EA: approx. -100 Euros

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  • #622
  • Sep 25, 2014 2:41pm Sep 25, 2014 2:41pm
paracelso can put your setup?
My EA is doing a little crazy ...
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  • #623
  • Sep 25, 2014 3:17pm Sep 25, 2014 3:17pm
Quoting Clipi
paracelso can put your setup? My EA is doing a little crazy ... {image}
I am using a privately made MGH EA, so the parameters of mine would be irrelevant.
  • #624
  • Sep 25, 2014 4:19pm Sep 25, 2014 4:19pm
Quoting Paracelsus
{quote} I am using a privately made MGH EA, so the parameters of mine would be irrelevant.
Consequently your results are irrelevant, too (nobody can reproduce them).
Can anyody build a good EA for this strategy?
  • #625
  • Sep 25, 2014 5:26pm Sep 25, 2014 5:26pm
Quoting Paracelsus
{quote} I am using a privately made MGH EA, so the parameters of mine would be irrelevant.
it works a little better than the original, good changes, seems to work well.
  • #626
  • Sep 25, 2014 8:53pm Sep 25, 2014 8:53pm
I made EA that works on this strategy, but results are the same always is stop-out because of GAP between the baskets. While we shrink gap first time we get some DD and then we can get one more gap and inside grid could be hanged as well. I may upload beta version but it the strategy is wrong in that representation from the first page of this thread.
  • #627
  • Edited Sep 26, 2014 12:00am Sep 25, 2014 9:20pm | Edited Sep 26, 2014 12:00am
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Take a look at that DD and size of GAPs. I am using 2 pips between positions, but it is just for test to see how it is going. If increase step between positions it is do not change the situation.
  • #628
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:05am Sep 26, 2014 1:05am
Quoting vadimizumov
I made EA that works on this strategy, but results are the same always is stop-out because of GAP between the baskets. While we shrink gap first time we get some DD and then we can get one more gap and inside grid could be hanged as well. I may upload beta version but it the strategy is wrong in that representation from the first page of this thread.
I understand you, but would you upload your EA?
  • #629
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:20am Sep 26, 2014 1:20am
Nothing much happened overnight (i.e. no more entries). Screenshot will follow.
  • #630
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:27am Sep 26, 2014 1:27am
Quoting Paracelsus
Nothing much happened overnight (i.e. no more entries). Screenshot will follow.
Thanks to you for deleting your previous post.
I addressed my question (for sharing EA) to vadimizumov.
  • #631
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:27am Sep 26, 2014 1:27am
Quoting moncsicsi78
{quote} Consequently your results are irrelevant, too (nobody can reproduce them). Can anyody build a good EA for this strategy?
The EA follows the "Rules" with slight modifications approved by Author Kfx (see Post No.1), so the EA's results are as relevant as of the original strategy's.

Screenshots are uploaded daily, so the concept can be easily followed.
  • #632
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:29am Sep 26, 2014 1:29am
Quoting moncsicsi78
{quote} Thanks to you for deleting your previous post. I addressed my question (for sharing EA) to vadimizumov.
Sorry, Vazze... I thought it was addressed to me...
  • #633
  • Sep 26, 2014 2:55am Sep 26, 2014 2:55am
This EA is not fully completed yet. I used old "2sides" EA and modified to the MGH EA.
Profit - is a profit in % from balance to close all orders.
UseMoney is how much EA will use money to calculate starting lot. Try to increase this option if EA says "not enough money".

NEVER USE THIS EA FOR REAL MONEY !
Only for educational purposes.
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  • #634
  • Edited 9:43am Sep 26, 2014 9:26am | Edited 9:43am
Here is today PM's update:

Basket P&L: -7 Euros
Basket TP: +30 Euros
Total Equity change since start of EA: approx. -3 Euros

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Advanced statistics are looking good:

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  • #635
  • Edited Sep 29, 2014 2:11am Sep 28, 2014 2:26pm | Edited Sep 29, 2014 2:11am
During the past week I have noticed that when a new Hedge group starts, the FIRST trade of the new hedge group cannot completely hedge 3 opposite direction trades, so the EA cannot take advantage of a very strong move. In other words: the floating DD will increase until the second hedge position has been opened.

For example: if we have 3 x 0.02 BUY lots and the trend turns suddenly downwards with a vertical drop, the EA will take 10 pips profits on multiple 1 x 0.04 SELL lots while losing more on the 3 x 0.02 BUY lots.

So the FIRST hedge is only a partial hedge, increasing the floating DD with a strong unidirectional move.

The solution might be opening new hedge groups by using a 3x multiplier. In this case the FIRST hedge position would FULLY compensate for the opposite direction trades and TP would be reached sooner. Of course, there is a downside: the lot increase would be much faster, too.

Visual summary of the past week:

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  • #636
  • Edited 2:10am Sep 29, 2014 1:44am | Edited 2:10am
On 9/29/2014 AM (7th trading day), the EA has closed the Basket with 30 Euros profit. Total profit for the past 7 days was 40 Euros (a significant amount of profit was spent on swaps). Further forward tests have been suspended until after the full effect of the above-mentioned 3x multiplier has been analyzed.

Here is the final screenshot of the series:

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  • #637
  • Sep 29, 2014 5:06am Sep 29, 2014 5:06am
Quoting Paracelsus
During the past week I have noticed that when a new Hedge group starts, the FIRST trade of the new hedge group cannot completely hedge 3 opposite direction trades, so the EA cannot take advantage of a very strong move. In other words: the floating DD will increase until the second hedge position has been opened. For example: if we have 3 x 0.02 BUY lots and the trend turns suddenly downwards with a vertical drop, the EA will take 10 pips profits on multiple 1 x 0.04 SELL lots while losing more on the 3 x 0.02 BUY lots. So the FIRST hedge is only...
In the first test performing at MGH v2.0, arrives at the same conclusion.
Modify EA to x3. retest and also died within a few days.
  • #638
  • Sep 29, 2014 5:14am Sep 29, 2014 5:14am
Quoting Clipi
{quote} In the first test performing at MGH v2.0, arrives at the same conclusion. Modify EA to x3. retest and also died within a few days.
Well, if strategy dies consistently, the whole thing could be reversed for a consistently profitable strategy.

(Of course, a lot depends on SL and TP settings.)
  • #639
  • Oct 8, 2014 12:55am Oct 8, 2014 12:55am
Is this post dead? Where is Paracelsus? Are there anyone still use this method?
  • #640
  • Oct 8, 2014 1:22am Oct 8, 2014 1:22am
Quoting yczzd
Is this post dead? Where is Paracelsus? Are there anyone still use this method?
If follow strategy from first post i consider that this strategy is wrong. I fully complete to code EA which is following MGH and there are always is a margin call. I try t change many parameters and options such as distance between openings, multipliers, TPs, SLs etc . result is the same. Strategy fully unprofitable. Now i coding EA which is works on modified MGH system. And results is much better. Now i at the finish of coding EA just catching number of bugs. And share the results.
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