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  • #5,281
  • Jul 18, 2014 9:32am Jul 18, 2014 9:32am
Quoting Xiaofeng
{quote} I have found that choppy stoch will cause also what you suggest josh. That means that signal doesnt came with the first change of color in gmts. So probably it could be a good idea to avoid subjectivity in that stoch issue. that means if we only take smooth stoch signals there will ever be according to josh rule. Conclusion: stoch smoothless and fgmts is highly related. {image}
How many days i'm repeating that one Eitan syst problem woud be the way wich stocastic go up or down!!
Ideal stochastic should be a rocket from 15 area to 85 area (or viceversa)without too zig-zag and more is simil a rocket and more the signal is good
  • #5,282
  • Jul 18, 2014 9:35am Jul 18, 2014 9:35am
Quoting Pips200
{quote} How many days i'm repeating that one Eitan syst problem woud be the way wich stocastic go up or down!! Ideal stochastic should be a rocket from 15 area to 85 area (or viceversa)without too zig-zag and more is simil a rocket and more the signal is good

Everybody has different eyes and can do important contributions to better this already amazing system. Go Go Go!
  • #5,283
  • Jul 18, 2014 9:49am Jul 18, 2014 9:49am
MS sys signal EC EA GJ short.,put there small lots just for checking let c
when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
  • #5,284
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:21am Jul 18, 2014 10:21am
Quoting Pips200
{quote} How many days i'm repeating that one Eitan syst problem woud be the way wich stocastic go up or down!! Ideal stochastic should be a rocket from 15 area to 85 area (or viceversa)without too zig-zag and more is simil a rocket and more the signal is good
yeah..we´ve heard that.. but what does your statistics say about this suggestion? How many pairs have you backtested on how many years to come to this conclusion ?
It may be correct..
TWEE, revoke my membership.
  • #5,285
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:25am Jul 18, 2014 10:25am
do you remember???
seems 10 years ago.....
https://charts.mql5.com/5/247/eurcad...al-markets.png
  • #5,286
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:27am Jul 18, 2014 10:27am
Quoting Pips200
do you remember??? seems 10 years ago..... {image}
very clear...no too rules....
  • #5,287
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:30am Jul 18, 2014 10:30am
Quoting Pips200
do you remember??? seems 10 years ago..... {image}
my HG sys is very very great one .
when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
  • #5,288
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:31am Jul 18, 2014 10:31am
Quoting eitan1010
{quote} my HG sys is very very great one .
It was fantastic!!!
Whyyyyyyyyy we have changed????
  • #5,289
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:37am Jul 18, 2014 10:37am
Quoting Pips200
{quote} I was fantastic!!! Whyyyyyyyyy we have changed????
i never changed ...its here on the thread somewhere at last ver ..
when GOD brings you a challenge he also gives you the power to deal with it
  • #5,290
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:39am Jul 18, 2014 10:39am
Quoting Pips200
{quote} I was fantastic!!! Whyyyyyyyyy we have changed????
Every development is a change but not every change is a development! I believe Trendsurfer will be much greater in time.. perfection comes on the way!!!

Happy Trades
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #5,291
  • Jul 18, 2014 11:11am Jul 18, 2014 11:11am
Quoting Pips200
{quote} It was fantastic!!! Whyyyyyyyyy we have changed????
The question is Whyyyyyyy have you changed....?
  • #5,292
  • Jul 18, 2014 12:45pm Jul 18, 2014 12:45pm
Quoting josh11
Hi I am Josh some of you here know me, I working with Eitan and Roma in the background! While doing some back-testing I notice we have a more accurate and better success rate if we only enter on the first change colour bar on the GMTS tape indicator for example look at the chart picture below, First trade is perfect, we have all EMA's line up right with space, stoch came from below -15 and back over 85, waddah is Green and its the first Blue on the GMTS Tape, no yellow dot, good buy signal. Second Trade, which alot of us took, Ema's all line up...
Josh is absolutely right and it make sense.. If you check our good trades you will see this rule blocking falses but not good signals... Our old valid signals are still valid according to this rule..

Thank you so much Josh
Neural Network Algorithm and Econophysics
  • #5,293
  • Jul 18, 2014 5:19pm Jul 18, 2014 5:19pm
Hi Folks,

In the picture attached I wanted to share my thoughts on how to use the trendsurfer system in a good way. I am using GBP/JPY for this. Any of you please feel free to critic me if I made a mistake somewhere. My point is to share what I have learned so far. In the end we are all still learners right? Of course Eitan or Vigovski will explain these things much better than me. I am just a humble servant and user of their fantastic strategy.

Happy Trades
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  • #5,294
  • Jul 18, 2014 5:54pm Jul 18, 2014 5:54pm
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
Hi Folks, In the picture attached I wanted to share my thoughts on how to use the trendsurfer system in a good way. I am using GBP/JPY for this. Any of you please feel free to critic me if I made a mistake somewhere. My point is to share what I have learned so far. In the end we are all still learners right? Of course Eitan or Vigovski will explain these things much better than me. I am just a humble servant and user of their fantastic strategy. Happy Trades {image}
I think the most important thing to be clarified at this point we all understood the MA lining up, the GMT (first brick isa better),ect..., is this one regarding the stoch: ok,let's say we wanna BUY for example. We can name the first Stoch point (under 15 level), FIRST STEP OF A BUY SIGNAL (all other conditions met in our example, let' say)

WHEN, A STOCH 1st step of the SIGNAL IS INVALIDATED?

I mean, if you look at the candle 10 july at 12,00 you see the stoch absolutely comes from under the 15 area... B-U-T in the meantime between that thing and the possible second part of the signal on the 15 july 4,00 (oh well maybe the candle after.. i mean the green candle outside of the purple channel of course) something happened that invalides the first part of the signal and so, the signal in toto.

So, what is this "something"? Turning back in between the 15-25 stoch zone? (without arriving again UNDER the 15 level, of course)
Or passing the 50 stoch level and turning back under the 50 level (without arriving again UNDER the 15 level, of course).

Vigo? Eitan? Please clarify I hope it's not a stupid question..i still have doubts about it
  • #5,295
  • Jul 18, 2014 7:26pm Jul 18, 2014 7:26pm
Hi everyone. I see that Mr. Ata has on the group of indicators one that I do not have which is the cycle signal on the last window. Please if anyone could tell me where to find it so I can add it to the template.
Thanks in advance to everyone.
  • #5,296
  • Jul 18, 2014 10:22pm Jul 18, 2014 10:22pm
Quoting carlosar13
Hi everyone. I see that Mr. Ata has on the group of indicators one that I do not have which is the cycle signal on the last window. Please if anyone could tell me where to find it so I can add it to the template. Thanks in advance to everyone.
And on we go....

I speak as a trader not as a systems developer.

We are presented with a system by its creators with rules and interpretations, a track record of Eitan returning 900% and we get one loss on NJ and now rules are changed and new indicators added.

I know Ata-Tokoglu didn't mean anything and I can understand his use of cycle identifier but in the mindset of many traders the answer is more indi's, more filters and more complexity. Leading to confusion and paralysis. I hope you understand I'm not having a go at you Ata-Tokoglu just saying that many will now request cycle identifier in the belief this is now the piece in the puzzle that makes them rich.

I'll stop beating this drum and let those that have made a huge input into the development of these systems continue.

Best Regards,
  • #5,297
  • Jul 19, 2014 2:42am Jul 19, 2014 2:42am
Quoting HitTheBid
{quote} And on we go.... I speak as a trader not as a systems developer. We are presented with a system by its creators with rules and interpretations, a track record of Eitan returning 900% and we get one loss on NJ and now rules are changed and new indicators added. I know Ata-Tokoglu didn't mean anything and I can understand his use of cycle identifier but in the mindset of many traders the answer is more indi's, more filters and more complexity. Leading to confusion and paralysis. I hope you understand I'm not having a go at you Ata-Tokoglu...
Completelly agree.
  • #5,298
  • Jul 19, 2014 3:15am Jul 19, 2014 3:15am
Guys.. We got one lost and joshua explained it why.... Now we have very strong rule which is blocking falses and letting us to take valid trades..

So please stop tryng to put a new indicators like (cycle repainting..) Just follow eitan's rules and system...

My best suggest is we are working on something... Just focus to mts System without any new indicators with FIRST TAPE COLOUR Rule... Next time according to this rule you will not take trades like NJ....

Remeber that after this lose you got 2 valid signals by GU + GC which is more than 60 pips...

Focus to simplicity and follow eitan... Remember first rule...

IF you break your system it will break you... We lost many trades while developing instead of you... We tryed 1000 tons of way... Now what we are looking for

Patience !!! Be patient focus rules and stay calm...

You have great system which have potential to give you %900 return in 2,5 months..

Focus to MTS signals !

my 2 cents
Neural Network Algorithm and Econophysics
  • #5,299
  • Jul 19, 2014 6:43am Jul 19, 2014 6:43am
GU was no winner for me ... I moved SL to BE after 35 pips ... no win, no loss ... ... but GC
  • #5,300
  • Jul 19, 2014 7:18am Jul 19, 2014 7:18am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
Hi Folks, In the picture attached I wanted to share my thoughts on how to use the trendsurfer system in a good way. I am using GBP/JPY for this. Any of you please feel free to critic me if I made a mistake somewhere. My point is to share what I have learned so far. In the end we are all still learners right? Of course Eitan or Vigovski will explain these things much better than me. I am just a humble servant and user of their fantastic strategy. Happy Trades {image}

Very Very good example...and a chart explain everything clearing....thanks!
Patience, let the market come to you!
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