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  • #48,181
  • Edited 1:57pm Jul 6, 2014 1:37pm | Edited 1:57pm
Quoting fti
{quote} you got the idea. don't throw that swing, unless you see him twitch. even then be ready step back, if necessary.its alive. regards
Markets love to feint(fake out) like good boxers, but great boxers they know how to react to a feint accordingly. Instead of covering their eyes, they are already planning a full on assault on your movement. I don't put too much leverage on my punches because I keep in mind the counter and avoiding it. Mostly jab the mkt all day long. Once in a while I connect a strong cross punch when I think timing is right, and I make sure to run away after I see mkt face look like its about to strike revenge lol.
  • #48,182
  • Jul 6, 2014 2:42pm Jul 6, 2014 2:42pm
Quoting alexandria
hi all A request - is anybody willing to demo this style of trading - for newbies like me to watch and learn the general approach to get a feel of it - although I know I have to learn from my own experiences this would be invaluable to me? I have my own software tool that lets me walk through different time frames - so I can manually back test without seeing future. My partner and I are software developers and so we wrote what we needed. Regards.
software developers. black box people, no one yes no one is able to decode it just go try and
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #48,183
  • Edited 6:35pm Jul 6, 2014 5:13pm | Edited 6:35pm
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  • #48,184
  • Jul 6, 2014 5:42pm Jul 6, 2014 5:42pm
good morning!!
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  • #48,185
  • Jul 6, 2014 6:46pm Jul 6, 2014 6:46pm
next time name also will get posted.
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  • #48,186
  • Edited 5:35am Jul 7, 2014 4:26am | Edited 5:35am
Quoting alexandria
hi all A request - is anybody willing to demo this style of trading - for newbies like me to watch and learn the general approach to get a feel of it - although I know I have to learn from my own experiences this would be invaluable to me? I have my own software tool that lets me walk through different time frames - so I can manually back test without seeing future. My partner and I are software developers and so we wrote what we needed. Regards.
In my experiences , i wasted millions banks budgets trying to create the uktimate trading robot.
generally i am resigned to the fact that , there is little intelligence in computers.
In fact i view coders as rigid peeps who live by rigid flow charts.(who cost a fortune to upkeep)

Although is appreciative that you had created a possibility of blind backtesting.
It cannot by absolute means recreate the trade ambience and sentiments in market place as at when the price data was recorded.
And if one was to rely only on price as the decision process.If you ask me, is like having child without sex.
Is a process of love/feelings and interactions. although is a repetitive process, but the ambience creates different feel respondse environments.
If it was degraded to a mere process, then all meanings is lost.
In my experience also proved non consistency in performance without curve fitting it.

More over the markets are alive and responding to multiple stimulus than just price equilibrium.
That is why seeking of price equibrium needs be managed by intelligent/thinking humans.

If you really good coder, maybe you can help me out.
Write a Good oerating system that not keep killing storage file systems in the usb system. maybe a new form of the DOS.
seem Ms fucked big time already and not seems have support of good coders.
Maybe you can be richer than gates and more productive in such endevours.

about computer intelligence.
think programming a robot do a sharp bend on a cliffy road.
although robat can take terrain of task to decision process.
Guess what happens if a cow, snakes, crocs,....(could be even your child) strayed on to the road.

do you remember when satalitte maps was enhanced.
if a pilot depended on those for landing aircraft without using his ears eyes and brain, would had landed in the sea marked as airport.

Life had become very rigid due to tecnological handicaps already.
planes can only take off at certain places and land ib certain places.
Places where you have roads or rails, few animals in world can survive the use of, including the humans that invented em.
although is not the inventors that get killed on em daily.(maybe should be, then we can improve)

maybe markets may be last domains where human rigidity cannot conquer.


regards

i like bicycles, they looks so fit?

http://english.sina.com/culture/p/2014/0706/715837.html
  • #48,187
  • Jul 7, 2014 5:42am Jul 7, 2014 5:42am
Quoting fti
{quote} wow thank you for you indulgence. so sorry for such long thread. but really there's heaps repeats. easy on you own pace only. There ain't no holly grills here. Just 1 trader's way of life. should i change thread title to.....life on the fast lanes. or should i follow gro's advice............my garden? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeNhwnO8hw regards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS-DmhSXL7A

good day to all

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  • #48,188
  • Edited 8:40am Jul 7, 2014 5:47am | Edited 8:40am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} good day to all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbRUsYtZ2fs
wah sally

want know my sally favorites?

opps they killed the vids.
sorry



regards

have some pieces here and there

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cannot find many.
maybe i just make as if it never existed.
  • #48,189
  • Jul 7, 2014 5:48am Jul 7, 2014 5:48am
Quoting fti
{quote} wah sally regards


mum's favorite


cable's coming down

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want know my sally favorites?
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  • #48,190
  • Jul 7, 2014 5:56am Jul 7, 2014 5:56am
Quoting fti
{quote} In my experiences , i wasted millions banks budgets trying to create the uktimate trading robot. generally i am resigned to the fact that , there is little intelligence in computers. In fact i view coders as rigid peeps who live by rigid flow charts.(who cost a fortune to upkeep) Although is appreciative that you had created a possibility of blind backtesting. It cannot by absolute means recreate the trade ambience and sentiments in market place as at when the price data was recorded. And if one was to rely only on price as the decision...

If I were looking for algorithmic trading, I would not be reading this thread as that is the opposite to what I think this thread is about. I found this thread by chance via another and as it seemed to be going in my wave length re the markets going where they want and if I am lucky I can go along with them.

I am an honest and open person and I had no idea mentioning that we had (my partner mostly ) written a back-test system would cause such a reaction - my partner said to me today I should not have mentioned that - I did not mention it for any reason other than fact and being honest and open is my nature - my fault sometimes. This is how god made me - so I will likely make the same mistake again as I am neither a snake nor a wolf - I hope.

Sometimes we build tools that are useful to us and my back tester has been most useful to me as I can step along 1 minute at a time - and much to my surprise you can tell the emotion in the market sometimes - it has been invaluable to me BUT you are correct it will NEVER be the same as live - rather it is a stepping stone. If I decide I need other tools to take the edge off things or make life a little easier I will likely have my partner build them for me again. We built this tool for ourselves and no-one else and have never tried to sell it - so it does not harm anyone else.

I have learned a valuable if sad lesson about honesty and openness.

I am sorry to have riled you - forgive me.
check out the terrain - follow never lead
  • #48,191
  • Jul 7, 2014 6:05am Jul 7, 2014 6:05am
@ alexandria
don't predict direction, but dance with flow of water
  • #48,192
  • Edited 6:56am Jul 7, 2014 6:10am | Edited 6:56am
Quoting alexandria
{quote} If I were looking for algorithmic trading, I would not be reading this thread as that is the opposite to what I think this thread is about. I found this thread by chance via another and as it seemed to be going in my wave length re the markets going where they want and if I am lucky I can go along with them. I am an honest and open person and I had no idea mentioning that we had (my partner mostly ) written a back-test system would cause such a reaction - my partner said to me today I should not have mentioned that - I did not mention it...
noted. nothing to forgive.
I felt your honesty and openness.
I guess is why i wrote trying explain to you, my experiences and the short comings for going that direction.
I went there before.(took bank along for the ride) But nevertheless my experiences alone cannot be conclusive for all.
only for me.

I understand you may feel very sensitised ,butthis only discussion.
no take it as a personal judgement.
But i can undeerstand.
If someone told me that while i was at the bank, and very cock sure that i got the direction correct, probally would feel sad as well.
but i learned from the experience.
Just trying tell you about it.
Am not trying re-stir you.
You need decide what you can get out of your experimentation.
Only that i've been there and i not going go that directions again.

But only caution i like state is try not use real money on it. Outcome may not be lonf term pleasant.
sorry hurt your feelings.
Is not nice pour cold water on others, except on thai water festivals.
but i not the type personality hold punches what i experienced.

regards

but if you like play water, is very fun.
eap if you hate your bosses. This the day.


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ai yoi these girls, i try find better examples.

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nice , everupone throwing blessings to others.
would be nice watch some smart phones smoking.
then kills some bad habits. blessings.
may help peeps gets less microwaved. slow cooking?
  • #48,193
  • Edited 8:30am Jul 7, 2014 6:58am | Edited 8:30am
i like.

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  • #48,194
  • Edited 9:25am Jul 7, 2014 9:14am | Edited 9:25am

found something mom being looking for.
ai ya need polish my find stuff skills.

mom will be pleased.
http://chinesecinemagoldenage.blogsp...bombshell.html

regards

nice neck developing in cable.
need wait see if is real.
but the breakline boys will be waiting too.
i need be one step faster, so may be some risky.
lots pow resources already engaged.
we probably going to fool around this zone for some time. patience.
i not much fool around resources so i take raincheck.
next time , now i need conserve bullets.
  • #48,195
  • Jul 7, 2014 9:40am Jul 7, 2014 9:40am
Quoting fti
found something mom being looking for. ai ya need polish my find stuff skills. mom will be pleased. http://chinesecinemagoldenage.blogsp...bombshell.html regards nice neck developing in cable. need wait see if is real. but the breakline boys will be waiting too. i need be one step faster, so may be some risky. lots pow resources already engaged. we probably going to fool around this zone for some time. patience. i not much fool around resources so i take raincheck. next time , now...
double top H4/ or many top H1 neckline you mean?

seems they fooling ard with aud/eur corss..


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mom will be pleased.
http://chinesecinemagoldenage.blogsp...bombshell.html

very old school, think my mum still in siwmming pool
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #48,196
  • Jul 7, 2014 10:16am Jul 7, 2014 10:16am
Quoting fti
found something mom being looking for. ai ya need polish my find stuff skills. mom will be pleased. http://chinesecinemagoldenage.blogsp...bombshell.html regards nice neck developing in cable. need wait see if is real. but the breakline boys will be waiting too. i need be one step faster, so may be some risky. lots pow resources already engaged. we probably going to fool around this zone for some time. patience. i not much fool around resources so i take raincheck. next time , now...
this one
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  • #48,197
  • Jul 7, 2014 10:20am Jul 7, 2014 10:20am
Quoting priceaction1
{quote} this one {image}
not formed yet. a little tops heavy.
whats point draw so many lines.
just watch what becomes la.
time frame long, i no stamina.


regards
  • #48,198
  • Edited 10:32am Jul 7, 2014 10:22am | Edited 10:32am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} double top H4/ or many top H1 neckline you mean? seems they fooling ard with aud/eur corss.. {quote} very old school, think my mum still in siwmming pool
oh private swimming pool?

this fti very nasty.
whip whip.
you get 3 whips. even more naughty.

regards

dang another external harddisk crashed.
need rerip many cds , worst is the LP too much dang work and 24/192 dang slow.
and taggings? and album art scanning? dang.
i give up these digital technology. totally unreliable.
ok whip you another day.
now i see whats problem with disk.
  • #48,199
  • Edited 10:48am Jul 7, 2014 10:33am | Edited 10:48am
Quoting fti
{quote} oh private swimming pool? this fti very nasty. whip whip. you get 3 whips. even more naughty. regards dang another external harddisk crashed. need rerip many cds , worst is the LP too much dang work and 24/192 dang slow. and taggings? and album art scanning? dang. i give up these digital technology. totally unreliable. ok whip you another day. now i see whats problem with disk.

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aiyo, how old your ext hd liao?

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2 months maybe 3

hmmm.. seems virus at work.. aiyo, lucky you have original disc hor, so disc still safe cannot get infected

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before this crashed 4 seagates 4 WDs. 1 terras

ok, i going say something stupid. why dont throw away all your IT equipment get new ones. so the virus will be dead too.


i turning in for the night, good nite friend & take care
THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental
  • #48,200
  • Edited 11:06am Jul 7, 2014 10:35am | Edited 11:06am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} {image} aiyo, how old your ext hd liao?
2 months maybe 3
before this crashed 4 seagates 4 WDs. 1 terras
lots data lost, but is ok
i don't care already.
just wishing lightling strike the bastards.
These peeps are stupid, even backups crashed.
fated.

if only God allow me access my fotos on his cloud servers.
now i will store anything on DVDs only.
the harddisk bastards can go bankrupt, i not care.


regards

oh and 1 samsung 2T

almost 2/3 my disc still in sg.
nevermind la music still have tube until it also gets killed.

oh becareful i asking lightling strike the stupid. careful hor.

these few months before i go hosp.
alredy retired 1 lenovo B310, 1 asus superlap top. 2 high end desktops. 1 phillip tv monitor.
this one i using is 2 months old hor.

the amount retired hardware store room already full wall to wall hor.
my ghost busters ask me go smart phone tech.
but i cannot read too small.

what virus, i have the most comprehensive safety gadgets.
nothing can disturb undetected.
even protected by panda cloud and safe360 amongst others i cannot say due to security running all the time.
no one can even know where i am.

you try talk about me.
I will know before sun comes down.
if my net was a human would alredy look like have multiple personality disorder hor.
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