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  • #521
  • Jun 27, 2014 11:28am Jun 27, 2014 11:28am
Quoting Kuat
{quote} LOL coding EA teaches you alot about markets... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA statement of the year keep smoking it
nobody can help you if you close your eyes
just do it
  • #522
  • Jun 27, 2014 11:31am Jun 27, 2014 11:31am
Quoting Kuat
{quote} whats you and squirting demo man? trying to compensate for something u cant do? i squirt alright dude..just not for you..so keep trying demo-man

Tough guy...

lol

Show proof of 1 single trade you have taken, ACE.

You talk a lot of shit, but lets see the profit or loss you have taken from any 1 trade...screen shot...none of this, I exited with 9 pips bullshit.

My history is full of mine...your history is full of Zilch.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #523
  • Jun 27, 2014 11:38am Jun 27, 2014 11:38am
Quoting thodie
{quote} nobody can help you if you close your eyes
If i closed my eyes i couldnt hv read ur post..😐U know we used to have a big poster of penguins lining up to jump into the water.. never be the penguins.😨😨I think if u can infer u get what i mean.. u seem like a good bloke standing up for demo man, but ur reasonings make u sound abit light between the ears. Just a jest.. friday night.. well hv a good one
  • #524
  • Jun 27, 2014 11:43am Jun 27, 2014 11:43am
Quoting Kuat
{quote} If i closed my eyes i couldnt hv read ur post..😐U know we used to have a big poster of penguins lining up to jump into the water.. never be the penguins.😨😨I think if u can infer u get what i mean.. u seem like a good bloke standing up for demo man, but ur reasonings make u sound abit light between the ears. Just a jest.. friday night.. well hv a good one
So, not going to post any trades?

You got nothing live???

Who is the demo man???



See my history for mine...that way, nobody can say I've made these up.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #525
  • Jun 27, 2014 11:48am Jun 27, 2014 11:48am
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} ... magix is such a sucker for it, I can feel him squirming from here
LOL.... don't quote me into this. I pretty much see Magix as the punch line, and the rest of them the joke....

You know the funniest thing about being smarter than others? It's a lot like NASCAR. When you're just about to lap them again, they actually think you're behind.
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  • #526
  • Jun 27, 2014 12:32pm Jun 27, 2014 12:32pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} You know the funniest thing about being smarter than others? It's a lot like NASCAR. When you're just about to lap them again, they actually think you're behind.
  • #527
  • Jun 27, 2014 12:40pm Jun 27, 2014 12:40pm
Quoting Kuat
{quote} wow..how to pick the post and stitch it together into another story..lol.. nice try picking the posts.. well to learn from ftis trading method which i do not know off..and i respect since i found his thread and the things he said relates to ppl i work with over the years.. obviously i would want to learn more about how he thinks and feels.. and that is how u learn as well.. if u read on more on my post, you ll find my calls in ftis thread... if u cant understand them.. too bad... well keep trying nubcakes...no no it should...
Thats the smartest thing you've said in a long time
  • #528
  • Jun 27, 2014 1:13pm Jun 27, 2014 1:13pm
Quoting Kuat
{quote} If i closed my eyes i couldnt hv read ur post..😐U know we used to have a big poster of penguins lining up to jump into the water.. never be the penguins.😨😨I think if u can infer u get what i mean.. u seem like a good bloke standing up for demo man, but ur reasonings make u sound abit light between the ears. Just a jest.. friday night.. well hv a good one
"Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has." rene descartes

you are the perfect sample. aA you laugh at me when i say coding teaches a lot about trading and market. It makes your point clear, your not here to learn, you are also not here to share your claimed floor trader experience, so why are you here? whats the point?

imho your apperence here cannot help anyone to improve trading.
just do it
  • #529
  • Jun 27, 2014 3:27pm Jun 27, 2014 3:27pm
Quoting thodie
i don´t know you, or your expierience, i can only say coding EA teaches a lot about market / indicators / holy grails and the own tradingstyle. BUT if you have to ask which knowledge, you should probably read his posts in comparison to kuat who have to say he was a floor trader to gain listeners "Being powerful is like being a lady, if you have to tell people you are, you arent" margaret thatcher or is kuat just an additional identity of ruffy rudy? or slim buffy? who knows.
oh you meant his opinion... yeah they're like assholes, everyone's got one
tradewith60
  • #530
  • Jun 27, 2014 8:41pm Jun 27, 2014 8:41pm
Quoting skfx
{quote} btw, Where do you live in Australia? I am Australian myself but living abroad in the Netherlands. Rgds
Netherlands, nice

I float between Sydney and Hobart. Born in Hob
What about you ?
like totally failure brah
  • #531
  • Jun 27, 2014 9:27pm Jun 27, 2014 9:27pm
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} oh you meant his opinion... yeah they're like assholes, everyone's got one
I am prefer excuses, came first and better song. Plus, it's a lot nicer. Not sure what the problem is with Magix, knowledgeable, funny guy he is. Think you might actually get along if you would talk trading.


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  • #532
  • Edited 12:59am Jun 28, 2014 12:17am | Edited 12:59am
Quoting hannele
{quote} Hi Chicky, I'll be in that... bottle of vodka that is since I speak better English after vodka or two (or I think so in my then altered state of mind). On the more serious note, yes I would be interested to read more of your journey - I am sure I will learn something, maybe many things. cheers hannele
It's a long journey from 1976 through today. Let me continue.

If you live in Mumbai (India) or Karachi (Pakistan) must have heard of a gambling. In Mumbai it is known as Matka (Clay Pot) but it Karachi it is Sataa (Speculation). My father was known as the King of Sataa. People who knew him must have identified me. Yes I am son of Akbar the Great, the king of Sataa (or maybe not, who knows who I am). May be I am not son of deceased Akbar or maybe a very close friend of him or maybe one of his partners. Or maybe I am close to Haji Mastan,............ or maybe I am just a finance professional who has done a lot of research on street gambling and came to know these names during this research. Who knows.

Why it is called Matka (the clay pot) in Mumbai is because you unstrap a brand new bundle of hundred currency notes in front of a pulic gathering in a clay pot (Matka) and disarray these notes. Now at a particular time (8:00 pm) any person from the crowd is called to pick (draw) any currency bill from that pot without looking into the pot. The last digit of the serial number on the currency bill drawn is a winning number (Like you see in a lotto draw where they draw the numbers with the help of numbered balls). This first draw is called "Open". That means there is 1:10 chance of any number from 0 to 9 to be drawn. If you have bet $1 on any number you get $9. The payout therefore is 1:9 or in other words 10% of the total bets goes to book-makers. This process is repeated one more time after two hours (at 10:00 pm). This time, the winning number is known as 'Close". Again 1:10 chance and payout remains at 1:9. If one plays both Open and Close (known as Double, before the first draw), the payout is $80 if both the numbers are correctly slected by a punter (1:80). Logically it should have been 81 (9 x 9). Then there is Tenilla. A third draw (at 12:00 am). The payout is $700 for each 1$ bet if a punter gets all 3 digits correct. (1:700). Logically the payout should be (9 x 9 x 9 = 729). This is the fixed return gamble, just like roulette where odds are always in favor of a bookmaker (or casino).

In Karachi this gamble is known as Sataa (Speculation) because (initially) they did not draw the winning digit picking serial number from a currency bill in a clay pot, but the resultant sum obtained by adding all the digits in the Hay Open rate (and later USD Open rate) in Dubai currency market. Similarly the Close also came from Dubai market, again adding all the digits in the closing rate and the resultant digit was the winner. For example, the if the USD opens at 1.3645 you add 1+3+6+4+5 =19, then again add 1+9 = 10, then again add 1+0 = 1. The open is therefore "1". You repeat the same for Close from the USD closing rate. People who are faimiliar with Sataa may now know why "Akbar Ghas Mandi" was named Ghas Mandi.

........... To be continued ...............
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  • #533
  • Jun 28, 2014 12:44am Jun 28, 2014 12:44am
Quoting simonb
{quote} Netherlands, nice I float between Sydney and Hobart. Born in Hob What about you ?
Just before I left, I was living on the central coast.Born in Broken Hill, NSW.
Never been to Tassie myself, maybe one day.
Have a good weekend!
Rgds
  • #534
  • Jun 28, 2014 1:52am Jun 28, 2014 1:52am
Quoting Magix
{quote} Setting stops or limit orders, not really my bag.. Not by way of profit, not by way of loss. If I am taking a position, I am taking it with a defined range in mind and this typically depends on the methodology applied as well as the current week, as in, what cycle are we in? Supply and Demand cycles are a lot of what skfx has been talking about. He derives his information from larger orders tops and bottoms, others like myself use charts. I have still yet to see a single trade posted or any genuine information that is currently relevant...
What can you afford to risk?
worst risk is the brokers is gone scam, so all money is gone. it's like "don't put your egg in one basket", meaning the basket itself is untrusted whatever certification the basket have.
this q should be answered at first time i change my real paper/coin money into digital money (including bank saving account).
What do you call profit?
profit is the real paper/coin money that i receive in hand after i got back what i can afford to risk plus extra effort cost.
How much time are you committing to market?
as efficient as it can, coz im a trader and im not a researcher/ scientist / student pursuing academic acknowledgement.
What is reasonable as a loss?
i can't see any reasonable loss or a reasonable profit.
it is beyond reasoning like most said that market is cruel, or market has no mercy, or market has no logic.
when i can define a reasonable loss and reasonable profit, that time setting SL and TP is really my forte and my speciality

what is trend?
what is cycles?
did price trend really exist?
did the price has a periodic timing cycle just lke women had?
why traders and merchant should trade with the trend ?
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  • #535
  • Jun 28, 2014 4:51am Jun 28, 2014 4:51am
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} I am prefer excuses, came first and better song. Plus, it's a lot nicer. Not sure what the problem is with Magix, knowledgeable, funny guy he is. Think you might actually get along if you would talk trading.
The very foundation of science is to keep the door open to doubt. Precisely because we keep questioning everything, especially our own premises, we are always ready to improve our knowledge. Therefore a good scientist is never ‘certain’. Lack of certainty is precisely what makes conclusions more reliable than the conclusions of those who are certain: because the good scientist will be ready to shift to a different point of view if better elements of evidence, or novel arguments emerge. Therefore certainty is not only something of no use, but is in fact damaging, if we value reliability.
tradewith60
  • #536
  • Jun 28, 2014 6:15am Jun 28, 2014 6:15am
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} I am prefer excuses, came first and better song. Plus, it's a lot nicer. Not sure what the problem is with Magix, knowledgeable, funny guy he is. Think you might actually get along if you would talk trading. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KylMqxLzNGo#t=12
Hi Mister Scott,

Love this piece of music, thank you
cheers hannele
  • #537
  • Jun 28, 2014 6:24am Jun 28, 2014 6:24am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} It's a long journey from 1976 through today. Let me continue. If you live in Mumbai (India) or Karachi (Pakistan) must have heard of a gambling. In Mumbai it is known as Matka (Clay Pot) but it Karachi it is Sataa (Speculation). My father was known as the King of Sataa. People who knew him must have identified me. Yes I am son of Akbar the Great, the king of Sataa (or maybe not, who knows who I am). May be I am not son of deceased Akbar or maybe a very close friend of him or maybe one of his partners. Or maybe I am close to Haji Mastan,...............
Go on, you have my full attention (sorry about lack of vodka but I don't think we need it tonight - I'll get some merlot for tomorrow and a comfy chair, front of fireplace - you would not think it gets cold in Australia but it does.... - I anticipate a great story).
cheers
hannele
  • #538
  • Jun 28, 2014 2:20pm Jun 28, 2014 2:20pm
Quoting thodie
i don´t know you, or your expierience, i can only say coding EA teaches a lot about market / indicators / holy grails and the own tradingstyle.
Quoting Kuat
{quote} thod my boy, you make me laugh.. floor trader this demo man? hahahahahaahahha... those fkers would laugh at his EAs.. whycwould an experienced floor trader need an ea?
Quoting Kuat
{quote} LOL coding EA teaches you alot about markets... HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA statement of the year keep smoking it
All the smack talk by Kuat and his friends in high places and using EAs, we find this:

Quoting Kuat
chief, all inside day. but i see audusd flow going down.. dunno trap or not.. me play till month end..then holiday with them..till after heh... side note, just spent some time check an FX model (my friend do one..quite interested to test so i just put some money run it)...this month theo profit published is 10%.. but i make -2%.. my slippage really bad.. seems market at time move too fast to catch..want put only stop orders..sometimes get hit and signal become non-signal..tough tough.. wonder how to capture..hmm..


Real quality posting there, Kuat.

You can't trade live and think all others are the same.
You've tested a single EA that is losing money, and can't figure out why we test these on demos, or how we've shown 400% gains in a month, automated!

You are a valuable member of FF. A lot of others can learn from you...as you are the perfect example of what not to do in forums and forex.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #539
  • Jun 28, 2014 6:30pm Jun 28, 2014 6:30pm
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} The very foundation of science is to keep the door open to doubt. Precisely because we keep questioning everything, especially our own premises, we are always ready to improve our knowledge. Therefore a good scientist is never ‘certain’. Lack of certainty is precisely what makes conclusions more reliable than the conclusions of those who are certain: because the good scientist will be ready to shift to a different point of view if better elements of evidence, or novel arguments emerge. Therefore certainty is not only something of no use,...
Well you are clearly no climate scientist.

Anyway, I will tell you about Magix. He is a talented and successful trader who spends quite a bit of time helping others around here and elsewhere. You can't tell him his method does not work, when it does. Non-starter. If you would like to debate, I can assure you he loves a good debate. He is direct and a self-described a8shole, but I happen to think he is just no nonsense and funny. Much less harsh than the market.

I think you might actually have something to offer if you choose. Anyway, let me clarify my first post, as I like to speak in riddles sometimes. So, one was first and one has a better song.

Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} I am prefer excuses, came first and better song. Plus, it's a lot nicer. Not sure what the problem is with Magix, knowledgeable, funny guy he is. Think you might actually get along if you would talk trading. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KylMqxLzNGo#t=12
Quoting 60minuteman
{quote} oh you meant his opinion... yeah they're like assholes, everyone's got one
1988

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1986

Sgt. O'Neill: Excuses are like assholes, Taylor, everybody got one.

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  • #540
  • Jun 28, 2014 6:58pm Jun 28, 2014 6:58pm
Seems relevant somehow

Quoting fti
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like totally failure brah
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