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  • #6,281
  • Jun 17, 2014 11:46pm Jun 17, 2014 11:46pm
Quoting bumapatria
Reaaaly never thought I'd post in FF again, but here I am! The market has been quiet and challenging for sure as of late, and with some of the 'free-time' I've had so far in summer, I've compiled a basic strategy/research report on Lunar Cycles and the EUR/USD over here at my blog. (No, my blog has no commercial intent whatsoever to sell you anything). Obviously, I'm posting it here because it's to cater towards the esoteric interest,...
Great research!!! Your scientific based approach are clear and comprehensive. I did not know how to formulate esoteric knowledge, into acceptable scientific standard before. Thanks a lot for sharing.
Now for my part, i would like to share about "swing trade" of GBP/USD pair. Most of us (as myself too) have a feeling that we have top this pair. However, i notice some moderate possibility of anomaly come into play. Here is the chart, i take a small short now, and wait for next week, to prove or deny of this anomaly happening.
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  • #6,282
  • Jun 18, 2014 12:01am Jun 18, 2014 12:01am
Quoting mesi99
hi keco i would like to know how you going to trade these astrological events for different forex pairs not only eurusd 1-today we have occultation of saturn bu the moon 2-then at next friday we have venus opposite saturn and venus is jpy and saturn is gbp as you think so is this day we should trade gbpjpy but how 3-and next saturday we have mars square pluto charon 4-wednesday 18 june we have venus sextile jupiter so this will be bearish for yen pairs or what 5-thursday 19 june sun conjunct mercury what the effect of this on eurusd or whaever pairs...
Sorry mesi. I have been in hospital and my doctor forbid me to use computer. Sigh.. I hope may lack of response, does not deter you in your pursue for astro trading.

No point in dealing with the past point. No.5 sun conjunct mercury, the effect on eurusd is bullish. Despite the effort of draghi to bring this down, i still expect it to go north.
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  • #6,283
  • Jun 18, 2014 12:18am Jun 18, 2014 12:18am
Quoting jago25_98
This is the closest I have to a cheatsheet: EURUSD mercury/moon = counter trend Jupiter-Saturn = USOIL KecoaKecil's: Japan = venus, German = Mercury, American = Jupiter, UK = Saturn, Australia = Neptune KecoaKecil : Have you double checked your most influential planet for each currency pair? Here's the chart for each at their peaks; EURUSD at first peak of double top: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241249/EURUSDatPeak.png ... and the 2nd top before the trend down: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241249/EURUSD_doublePeak.png...
Good points. I will double check the planets influential of these pairs right away. I also looking into USOIL right now.
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  • #6,284
  • Jun 18, 2014 1:24am Jun 18, 2014 1:24am
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} Great research!!! Your scientific based approach are clear and comprehensive. I did not know how to formulate esoteric knowledge, into acceptable scientific standard before. Thanks a lot for sharing. Now for my part, i would like to share about "swing trade" of GBP/USD pair. Most of us (as myself too) have a feeling that we have top this pair. However, i notice some moderate possibility of anomaly come into play....
Hi Kecoa,thanks for your comments I appreciate it. it's pretty basic, i just inputted very standard parameters and how to 'quantify' ( i use the word lightly as i've got a lot to cover on the quant/automation side of things) the idea into something that's trade-able with a specific rule-set. I think it's also more of a formal way to present the idea for 'legitimacy'. It could literally be applied to whatever cycle/time-based trading approach, (aspects/models like the one you just posted etc). I for one am quite lacking in being able to comprehensively understand the more complex esoteric concepts so this is like something super simplistic that I can present/jot down I guess What's the model's concept based around, if you care to share?

Quoting JR97
bumpa! finally crossed back from the dark side?
With exams out of the way, and some time before some summer work; I thought I'd visit along with sharing the report earlier; all has been well bro?
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  • #6,285
  • Jun 18, 2014 3:53am Jun 18, 2014 3:53am
Quoting bumapatria
{quote} Hi Kecoa,thanks for your comments I appreciate it. it's pretty basic, i just inputted very standard parameters and how to 'quantify' ( i use the word lightly as i've got a lot to cover on the quant/automation side of things) the idea into something that's trade-able with a specific rule-set. I think it's also more of a formal way to present the idea for 'legitimacy'. It could literally be applied to whatever cycle/time-based trading approach, (aspects/models like the one you just posted etc). I for one am quite lacking in being able to...
Actually, we all newbie here. Most people i knew, will raise their eyebrows when this topic of "esoteric analysis" comes out from my mouth . For the start, we recall that forex trading is more like "herd psychology" or "psychology of the masses" right? In astrology model, we knew that venus energy govern the emotion. So i have a concept (work best for swing trade), i have put data from 2001 up to know, the chart looks good. So, if venus phase rule "emotion of the masses" the swing trade will follow this cycle. But i haven't yet put it into nice excel analysis like yours. This is simple concept, like lunar cycle, not very popular because the venus phase take years instead of months. Here is the charts. I wonder if we can present this idea like your lunar trade. There are a lot more "complex" model that deal with medium, short and "super short" terms. But, we need to crawl, before we walk, and walk before we run, right?
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  • #6,286
  • Jun 19, 2014 6:13am Jun 19, 2014 6:13am
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} Sorry mesi. I have been in hospital and my doctor forbid me to use computer. Sigh.. I hope may lack of response, does not deter you in your pursue for astro trading. No point in dealing with the past point. No.5 sun conjunct mercury, the effect on eurusd is bullish. Despite the effort of draghi to bring this down, i still expect it to go north.
i am sorry to hear that. why hospital ? . i hope you in better health now
  • #6,287
  • Jun 23, 2014 4:06am Jun 23, 2014 4:06am
Quoting mesi99
{quote} i am sorry to hear that. why hospital ? . i hope you in better health now
Too many skipping meal time. I am out of the jungle. Thank you. Just in time to watching this important week for my AU pair. As i wrote earlier, we are nearing big swing according to venus phase. The point of entry is between mid-july to 1st august. This week i am waiting for breakout above 95xx area. If that happened, i can safely swing it. Normally i hate this kind of trading, because it involve a big SL level, and i am not a patient girl.
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  • #6,288
  • Jun 23, 2014 8:50am Jun 23, 2014 8:50am
Something for an idea to possibly look into:
Any celestial correlations to picking high/lows in FX volatility?

I don't have the kind of data package available to properly mark dates of the important peaks and troughs in the volatility etc, so its for someone who clearly does have the information readily available, and willing to do some peeking into. Just a thought, as opposed to correlating to price-based turns; it'd then be something like "certain astro-events = statistically shows a tendency to lead towards higher market activity/lower" or whatever.
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  • #6,289
  • Jun 24, 2014 5:04am Jun 24, 2014 5:04am
Quoting bumapatria
Something for an idea to possibly look into: Any celestial correlations to picking high/lows in FX volatility? I don't have the kind of data package available to properly mark dates of the important peaks and troughs in the volatility etc, so its for someone who clearly does have the information readily available, and willing to do some peeking into. Just a thought, as opposed to correlating to price-based turns; it'd then be something like "certain astro-events = statistically shows a tendency to lead towards higher market activity/lower" or whatever....
I try to find the data for volume, seems they can not agree on each other. Any help? For the mean time, i am watching GBPUSD pair closely. The swing time based on venus phase cycle (i call global swing) have passed a few days ago. Looks we have a "little bear" moment, but i still wait for US New Home sales number. Based on saturn (planet influencing housing) still on retrograde, i will predict green number for US. I don't take any trade, only scalp, for now. Just wait and see until this week is over.
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  • #6,290
  • Jun 24, 2014 5:07am Jun 24, 2014 5:07am
hi everyone here is next four astrological events i would like to know how do you think it will affect different forex pairs not only eurusd
1- tomorrow we have mars opposite uranus
2-at 26/6/2014 we have occulatation of mercury by the moon
3-at 29-6/2014 we have two events activate neptune
sun trine neptune and venus square neptune
4-at 1/7/2014 mercury station direct and mercury in gemini nowadays
i wait your replies
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  • #6,291
  • Jun 24, 2014 5:53am Jun 24, 2014 5:53am
Quoting mesi99
hi everyone here is next four astrological events i would like to know how do think it will affect different forex pairs not only eurusd 1- tomorrow we have mars opposite uranus 2-at 26/6/2014 we have occulatation of mercury by the moon 3-at 29-6/2014 we have two events activate neptune sun trine neptune and venus square neptune 4-at 1/7/2014 mercury station direct and mercury in gemini nowadays i wait your replies {image} {image} {image} {image}
Try to answer no.1 first. Mars (fire) currently in gemini (water) domain, the aspect called "Fighting for space" position. So here is the interpretation for the pairs:
a. AUDUSD(down) and USDJPY(up) but being rule by water they will come in late, not immediate. Meaning you probably hold the position up to 4 days for AU and 12 days for UJ.
b. EURUSD(down) and GBPUSD(down), since GU rule by earth the effect is soon, also last shorter. EU rule by fire also so the effect already take place, about 8 days ago, the down effect will last longer than GU, UJ and AU.
c. Gold, now this is interesting, for the effect should bring this metal up. If, they play out as we predict, I would think Gold price will be down too. Interesting ey? I will try to answer other point later. Got to go now.
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  • #6,292
  • Jun 24, 2014 9:05am Jun 24, 2014 9:05am
Quoting KecoaKecil
{quote} I try to find the data for volume, seems they can not agree on each other. Any help? For the mean time, i am watching GBPUSD pair closely. The swing time based on venus phase cycle (i call global swing) have passed a few days ago. Looks we have a "little bear" moment, but i still wait for US New Home sales number. Based on saturn (planet influencing housing) still on retrograde, i will predict green number for US. I don't take any trade, only scalp, for now. Just wait and see until this week is over.
So happy, now we can establish astro reading with fundamental and technical. We are getting close of right formula.
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  • #6,293
  • Jun 24, 2014 9:55am Jun 24, 2014 9:55am
Quoting mesi99
hi everyone here is next four astrological events i would like to know how do you think it will affect different forex pairs not only eurusd 1- tomorrow we have mars opposite uranus 2-at 26/6/2014 we have occulatation of mercury by the moon 3-at 29-6/2014 we have two events activate neptune sun trine neptune and venus square neptune 4-at 1/7/2014 mercury station direct and mercury in gemini nowadays i wait your replies {image} {image} {image} {image}
Answering no.2-Mercury occultation by the moon. I still held the believe of affecting EURUSD the most (this more like my opinion). Occultation disrupt the energy of sun or moon, meaning the general flow will be distorted. If it down, we see spike up, for instance.
We probably see a red number in unemployment of USD (workforce influence first by mars, then by mercury) but market probably ignore it.
No.3 will affect AUDUSD the most, in long term. Globally, with tonight result, we are in the brink of "global swing" (imho).
Other pairs don't get influenced by neptune directly (being an outer planets, more with subconscious mind).
No. 4 .. Mercury go direct, be careful of the shadow.. Directions of the pairs, i think will follow my no.1 answer, with direct mercury at gemini, employment will pick up, spending increase, Euro will have more good news then.

This is only my opinion, i will look into it deeper, for now. Good night to you all. Please comment, any comment are welcomed.
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  • #6,294
  • Jun 27, 2014 5:09am Jun 27, 2014 5:09am
i agree with no 2 the ocultation is negative thing and will wait to see the result of no 3 and no 4
and i would like to ask about the effect of these astrological events
1- at 4/7/2014 we have sun opposite pluto charon
2- at 5/7/2014 we have venus opposite great attractor
and i think that great attractor this huge star has effect on jpy pairs because last year at 22-5- 2013 the day of the peak on usdjpy at 103.72 that continuse to be the yearly high of 2013 until 12-2013 then broken
at this day we have mercury opposite great attractor
3-at 6-7-2014 we have ocultation of mars by the moon
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  • #6,295
  • Edited 5:52am Jul 5, 2014 5:50am | Edited 5:52am
Quoting mesi99
i agree with no 2 the ocultation is negative thing and will wait to see the result of no 3 and no 4 and i would like to ask about the effect of these astrological events 1- at 4/7/2014 we have sun opposite pluto charon 2- at 5/7/2014 we have venus opposite great attractor and i think that great attractor this huge star has effect on jpy pairs because last year at 22-5- 2013 the day of the peak on usdjpy at 103.72 that continuse to be the yearly high of 2013 until 12-2013 then broken at this day we have mercury opposite great attractor 3-at 6-7-2014...
Let me first tell you of my 6 months self-evaluation. Have i reach a comfortable strategy that work? No. Am I getting better result? (Started at an-2013, till now) Yes. So, yes, i do think i will continue this field of research. But since i now convince that my prediction is "subjective" and only give 50-50 accuracy. Let me answer your question differently. Hope you are not angry . This idea come from my "friend" (well all that critiques are my friend). The point are "You have no base of which planets have the dominance effect of the pairs, statistically", "Most of your predictions depend on assumption of certain aspects, do you have any statistic proof of that?", "Astrologers all around made conflicting assumption, better settle for the one basic, acceptable, scientific based proven axiom, before you try to put that into financial forecast" .. other comments not add value to this thread, so i keep them to myself (most will disheartened or stir unnecessary rage..
So what is my propose solution. Here it is, i construct an excel worksheet that visualize 4 Major aspects (sextile,square,trine,opposition) Why i exclude the conjunction? Because in conjunction the two bodies merge and become one. I do not take any regards of the planets, here i only use major planets, 10 of them: Sun,moon,mercury,venus, mars,jupiter,saturn,uranus,neptune,and pluto.
Here is the chart, and i compare with Eur/usd pair. You can try for another.
I also attached the excel file and whoever have vba knowledge can look into the program.
What is my hypothesis? Everytime the number of aspects reach peak or bottom, that is the time trend change.
I think this is quite useful theory and will become a breakthrough in this esoteric trading style, let we all put it to the test.
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  • #6,296
  • Jul 5, 2014 6:02am Jul 5, 2014 6:02am
Now, what will happened in Q3? 7July to 19July will be in one trend, then from 19 July to 8 August, 8 to 14 August, then 14 to 26 August. 26 August to 8 Sept, 8 to 13 Sept. Last trend will be from 13 sept till end of Q3. I hope this will work fine as the historical parts. Good pips for you all.
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  • #6,297
  • Jul 8, 2014 1:42am Jul 8, 2014 1:42am
Trying to plot this into suitable pairs. Currently using on AUDUSD. If i turning this upside down, more make sense for me. The excel file quite big, the custom function =Aspect(time) use swedll32.dll file in the same directory, as the excel file. Look for it in astrodienst website, its free.
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  • #6,298
  • Jul 9, 2014 7:17am Jul 9, 2014 7:17am
hi everyone there are two events to talk about at 16 july 2014
1- mercury shadow end phase
2- jupiter enter leo and i know that leo is the house of gold so what buy gold or what and we know that gold is against usd dollar so is the year which jupiter will spend in leo the usd dollar will be weak until jupiter get out of leo or what do you think
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  • #6,299
  • Jul 9, 2014 7:28am Jul 9, 2014 7:28am
Quoting mesi99
hi everyone there are two events to talk about at 16 july 2014 1- mercury shadow end phase 2- jupiter enter leo and i know that leo is the house of gold so what buy gold or what and we know that gold is against usd dollar so is the year which jupiter will spend in leo the usd dollar will be weak until jupiter get out of leo or what do you think {image} {image}
Most astrologer agree to that. Also the sun will enter leo nearing last week of july.
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  • #6,300
  • Jul 9, 2014 8:03am Jul 9, 2014 8:03am
and what about mercury shadow end phase
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