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  • #221
  • Jun 20, 2014 7:10pm Jun 20, 2014 7:10pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Oh...hit a nerve... {image}

The real question here is...what nerve...

The fact that I know your account will never be above that $500 marker?
The Vicky thing?
The parole thing?
or
That I know you schlep tables in a restaurant...

Don't hate me, because I am beautiful...
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #222
  • Jun 20, 2014 7:13pm Jun 20, 2014 7:13pm
Quoting dhussey
Markets are not random. If they were you wouldn't be able to statistically and efficiently turn a profit. No trading system or method would work historically. There thousands of ways to make money trading, some are inherently better than others, some are false positives. You will find nothing on a free forum that will make you a better trader or give you the holy grail. Those that understand how to make money trading do not share their secrets willingly or for free, myself included... Most traders fail at trading even the most successful systems...
.. Can't add much to this IMHO.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #223
  • Jun 20, 2014 7:53pm Jun 20, 2014 7:53pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} The real question here is...what nerve... The fact that I know your account will never be above that $500 marker? The Vicky thing? The parole thing? or That I know you schlep tables in a restaurant... Don't hate me, because I am beautiful...
It's funny cause it's true
like totally failure brah
  • #224
  • Edited 8:53pm Jun 20, 2014 8:27pm | Edited 8:53pm
Quoting simonb
{quote} It's funny cause it's true

Is it?

Is it Fu-cken Hilarious?

Because I really don't believe that at all...

I know a lot of others think I am the prick here, but am I?

Inside of our own worlds, we create our own hell! Not a nice place to be, but why does that make me the bad guy? Why continue to focus on me?

You talk about real people, knowing who I am...but only the silver spoons know that I am not one of them.

I am not a child of privilege...this shit wasn't handed to me on a silver platter...

So, if you think I am going to feel bad that you sleep on a tear soaked pillow, it ain't going to happen.

(yeah, I know this is going to piss others off, don't care. I have made more off of my opinion of me, than will ever off of kissing ass)

Do you have any clue as to how many hard luck stories there are in forex?

Look at the fucking thread and the thread starter!

I am not their villain, nor am I their savior.

But you, like others, they assume this shit was just given to me. That I was somehow born into opportunity...that others can support me in my efforts.

It really isn't that way.

Who I am isn't important.

I walked into the same market thinking the same fucking thing....EASY MONEY.

It's not really that way at all, is it?

I get it, you don't like me..so don't...but I am not the reason for holding you back.

You are!

Now...keep hating me...I'm kewl with that, but don't let stupidity stand in the way of your success.

Let me introduce you to an internet friend, that I can truly say, I am proud to know. One of my HEROES!

Who I am pales in comparison to who he is. Meet my friend, Chris, HERE.

Read up on Chris. Get to know, who he is and his challenges in market...And then compare who you are to him.

You see...I am not the bad guy here....I am another guy.

What would you stand to gain to be like me or against me, when you could simply be, like Chris?

I don't need you to lose, so that I win. That isn't a part of my game nor my pleasure.

I win, because...like a lot of others, I got tired of losing and changed who I am.

There is no value in you losing to market nor losing to me...nobody wins any more than they already would. Move on to those who can inspire you, and work for those who you can inspire...

The gains will become irrelevant.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #225
  • Jun 20, 2014 8:35pm Jun 20, 2014 8:35pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Is it? Is it Fu-cken Hilarious? Because I really don't believe that at all... I know a lot of others think I am the prick here, but am I? Inside of our own worlds, we create our own hell! Not a nice place to be, but why does that make me the bad guy? Why continue to focus on me? You talk about real people, knowing who I am...but only the silver spoons know that I am not one of them. I am not a child of privilege...this shit wasn't handed to me on a silver platter... So, if you think I am going to feel bad that you sleep on a tear soaked...

Hi Magix,

Very inspiring but could not but help think of this.

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The world you desire can be won. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible..
  • #226
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:02pm Jun 20, 2014 9:02pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} Hi Magix, Very inspiring but could not but help think of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yky4QtRX_DI#t=34
My new signature, Mr. Scott!

Say goodnight to the bad guy....
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #227
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:05pm Jun 20, 2014 9:05pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} My new signature, Mr. Scott! Say goodnight to the bad guy....
The world you desire can be won. It exists.. it is real.. it is possible..
  • #228
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:18pm Jun 20, 2014 9:18pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} My new signature, Mr. Scott! Say goodnight to the bad guy....


But... but .....I'm not even on your buddy list... ....
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #229
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:22pm Jun 20, 2014 9:22pm
Quoting albchr
{quote} But... but .....I'm not even on your buddy list... ....
Sorted.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #230
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:23pm Jun 20, 2014 9:23pm
Quoting Mr. Scott
{quote} Hi Magix, Very inspiring but could not but help think of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yky4QtRX_DI#t=34
Perfect Scott.
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #231
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:25pm Jun 20, 2014 9:25pm
Quoting Magix
{quote} Sorted.
http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/CB...imated-025.gif
Ghost Rider - WWTBMD?
  • #232
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:35pm Jun 20, 2014 9:35pm
Support/Resistance vs. supply/demand; indies vs no indies; martingale; tech vs fundies; trend lines vs horizontals; stop loss vs. no stop loss, scalping vs long-term....the list goes on and on. The fact is 99.9% of traders here at FF are in the "want-to-be-traders" category of which I include myself since I'm still working my J-O-B. It is likely those trading for a living spend little to no time in forums such as this. Why? Because they probably trade using little or none of the BS posted in 99.9999% of systems, methods or strategies posted in these forums. So the probability of finding a "real" trading method here or in any other forum on the internet is very close to zero.

However if I had to choose a method or two...and I do this with a great deal of scepticism.....I would look towards J16 with particular attention to Mike's (MBQB11) style of trading and the Racman (problem is his method is proprietary and you'll have to pay to get it). A distant 3rd selection would be Redsword11's thread PIE and the offshoots of that thread.

Currently I am looking at naked charts and observing price and trying to forget everything I've ever learned here or anywhere else. Tough to do but I've got nothing to lose.

Anyway the search goes on.
  • #233
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:41pm Jun 20, 2014 9:41pm
There is difference between a gambler and trader or speculator. A gambler is a person that trades for entertainment at best and at worst is addicted to the rush or thrill of the game. A gambler has no information and they only hope to make money. Contrast that with a Trader or Speculator, is a person who uses information to predict future price movements better than another trader.

Yes, trader can be gamblers and gamblers can be traders, but what one needs to keep in mind that it is fine line between speculation and gambling. A lot of people are 'playing' with words here, but there is a distinction. If you truly believe trading is gambling then you are dead meat and have no hope of ever making it as a professional in financial instruments.

With all that said, most people on this forum are gamblers.
Don't wish it were easier, wish you were better. ~ Jim Rohn
  • #234
  • Jun 20, 2014 9:49pm Jun 20, 2014 9:49pm
Quoting Winston Reed
Support/Resistance vs. supply/demand; indies vs no indies; martingale; tech vs fundies; trend lines vs horizontals; stop loss vs. no stop loss, scalping vs long-term....the list goes on and on. The fact is 99.9% of traders here at FF are in the "want-to-be-traders" category of which I include myself since I'm still working my J-O-B. It is likely those trading for a living spend little to no time in forums such as this. Why? Because they probably trade using little or none of the BS posted in 99.9999% of systems, methods or strategies posted in these...

Kinda funny, Winston...

At certain times, I thought we were sharing the same brain...

You are another of the folk I've watched making their way through market and we are seemingly, always on the same page at the same time...

Just not seeing the exact same thing.

Your most current work on trendlines from candle bodies instead of peaks...buddy...you are close!!!

Quit drawing them diagonally and they are even more real.

Understanding supply and demand is only one of the issues you will find...even my buddy red, was unable to suck back the emotions when the rubber met the road....

As far as others I have seen in FF...you have to be as close to related and sharing the same market genetics, or aliens have us as split sibs...

Seriously dude...

We are that close.

Personality wise...maybe not...otherwise...yup.
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  • #235
  • Jun 21, 2014 12:56am Jun 21, 2014 12:56am
Quoting Winston Reed
Support/Resistance vs. supply/demand; indies vs no indies; martingale; tech vs fundies; trend lines vs horizontals; stop loss vs. no stop loss, scalping vs long-term....the list goes on and on. The fact is 99.9% of traders here at FF are in the "want-to-be-traders" category of which I include myself since I'm still working my J-O-B. It is likely those trading for a living spend little to no time in forums such as this. Why? Because they probably trade using little or none of the BS posted in 99.9999% of systems, methods or strategies posted in these...
Great post......... I like Panerai watches too......but I wear a Van Der Bauwede (00.1%)
Wherever you go, there you are.
  • #236
  • Edited 2:48am Jun 21, 2014 2:33am | Edited 2:48am
Quoting Magix
{quote}.this shit wasn't handed to me on a silver platter... .
lmao.. it's things like this... If your wondering.

You're easy.

So the trading thing didn't quite pan out, and now you're going commercial. The usual story.

I trade quite well actually. But trading isn't my entire life anymore. Its boring as sh*t. Like you
like totally failure brah
  • #237
  • Jun 21, 2014 3:50am Jun 21, 2014 3:50am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Thanks Davit. We all appreciate your contribution and understand not everything can be shared in a public forum. You have all the right to enjoy fruits of your hard work. Thanks again.
You can share everything. I do not share the opinion of Davit, on this point. In the end, only the winners win, the rest will continue to lose. In addition, we are a drop in the ocean of finance.
There is no Holy Grail. There are methods that are better or worse suited to the way you are (however, you will have to change psychologically).
For me, the best method is to establish the market condition for any kind of trading, scalping, swing, long term ...
Price Action is the ideal trigger, but you can use lots of indicators or systems to signal in favor of the market condition.
Experience and lots of practice, etc...
(my dollar)
Adaptarse es la clave
  • #238
  • Jun 21, 2014 3:55am Jun 21, 2014 3:55am
Quoting TraderRolf
I like this title and I like the thread In my own experience and along my journey until I was able to live from trading I, as every other trader, made the same mistakes and followed the usal path as well. It took me a few years to figure out that the trading system is almost irrelevant. The key is that you chose ONE system and stick to it. The biggest mistake traders can make is system-hopping. Everytime you start learning a new system, just because the old one had 5, 10 or 20 losers in a row, you have to start all over again. I truly...
I agree with every word. And there is no system that works if it does not, because the market is not systematic.
Adaptarse es la clave
  • #239
  • Edited 5:29am Jun 21, 2014 4:04am | Edited 5:29am
[Quote = jmn5611; 7505813] {quote} Usted es un jugador de ajedrez, entonces? Vamos a aprovechar esta lejos de la rosca o vamos a descarrilar. Como comerciante, su habilidad es indiscutible, acabo siempre pienso en mí mismo como negro cuando el comercio, y debe convencer blanca en un error. Pero blanca tiene el flujo de pedidos, negro no tiene nada. Así que la única manera de vencer a blanco o por lo menos lo atrae es no permitir que viera sus piezas en el tablero. Es por eso que yo no uso las paradas. Yo comercio simplemente añadiendo órdenes en la dirección de la tendencia y el corte oficios que prueban lo contrario. Es aburrido, y se necesita una gran cantidad ... [/ quote]

Chess. White has the advantage of opening and is not enough to win, because that advantage does not amount to a pawn, the third part of a pawn, one move. Please talk about what you know. I teach chess.
Adaptarse es la clave
  • #240
  • Jun 21, 2014 4:15am Jun 21, 2014 4:15am
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Stoplosses is one major tactic in any trading method. My experience tells me this: 1. After a careful study of the charts we enter either a long or short position normally at right time. Many times our position size is so big that we need to put a stoploss anywhere between 5 to 50 pips. 2. We look at the charts to find a right place for a stoploss. After a quick couple of minute study, we finally find a good support/resistance maybe 10 to 20 pips away from our entry and decide to set SL there. So far so good. 3. Then we re-think about our...
To me, you describe a perfect situation where not to do trading. If you do not know where to put a stoploss, you do not know what is happening with the price. It is best not trade in such cases.
Adaptarse es la clave
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