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  • #6,261
  • Jun 7, 2014 3:47pm Jun 7, 2014 3:47pm
Quoting Dolzsan
I'm sorry for intruding on this thread, but I must for the sake of critical thinking...
If only you had you might of contributed something worthwhile.

And maybe read a few more posts than the very few you obviously did.
  • #6,262
  • Jun 8, 2014 9:38am Jun 8, 2014 9:38am
Hey guys I am curious if there is some kind of list or reference which correlates aspects/transits with their theoretical market effects. I know astro but have not used it for market prediction so you can speak astro to me. I know my quincunx from my House Ruler

Next, has anybody done backtests to see how well this all works? Can the analysis be condensed to a numeric system at all?
  • #6,263
  • Jun 8, 2014 10:26am Jun 8, 2014 10:26am
Fractalist,

If you use Timingsolution, then you can find all answers to your queries. However, how much that will help in actual trading is the question.
  • #6,264
  • Jun 8, 2014 1:22pm Jun 8, 2014 1:22pm
Quoting Dolzsan
I'm sorry for intruding on this thread, but I must for the sake of critical thinking. I'll try to do so with the utmost respect. Whenever there is a significant market change there will be an astronomical event in our solar system. I bet if you look hard enough you can find that every single time you yawn there is some astronomical event going on. Coincidence? Of course. Try to find instead trend changes in charts that do not happen at the time or around the time of a planetary event. You will find that there is none because stuff is happening all...
Howdie Dolzsan, you are exactly right!
There are always so many aspects that you can always find one that seems to work.
That is why I have an indicator that shows all the aspects that are active on a bar.
It works like a flame, the hot spot is closest to the bar, the cooler the aspect the higher it is.
Also if you look at the 2nd indicator in the indicator window, it shows weighted aspects in the earth cycle spectrum. Also there you cannot find any correlation between aspects and a trend in the pricechart.

So, if it is not aspects, then what is it?
It is obviously something because people like Gann and Bayer have these fenomenon well documented.
I can tell you that it has nothing to do with horoscopes like you read in the newspapers, they are all bogus.
It is also not magic. Gann studied the school of Pythagoras and Pythagoras said that the universe is nothing but mathematical points of pressure.
Gann says as much as the same thing. Gann also said that astrology doesn't work, but the math behind it does. He said that markets conform to a natural law which he called "the law of vibration".
Now it is up to you to find out what Gann exactly meant. Good hunting.
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  • #6,265
  • Edited 6:46pm Jun 8, 2014 6:33pm | Edited 6:46pm
Ilovepippin' : I might be able to help you with your indicator problem if you send me a message. Where are those indicators you are using from? (I'm having to calculate by hand)

Fractalist, yes I agree there needs to be a cheatsheet for a starting point. Part of the problem is that there are so many permutations each moment is a complex picture and that means discretion creeps in. That's not a good starting point for learning. Better to start with the clearest setups.

Here's what I have;

Jupiter-Saturn = USOIL
EURUSD = Fear
...
that's all I can think of right now... need my notes... will have to update
  • #6,266
  • Jun 8, 2014 7:36pm Jun 8, 2014 7:36pm
Quoting jago25_98
Ilovepippin' : I might be able to help you with your indicator problem if you send me a message. Where are those indicators you are using from? (I'm having to calculate by hand) Fractalist, yes I agree there needs to be a cheatsheet for a starting point. Part of the problem is that there are so many permutations each moment is a complex picture and that means discretion creeps in. That's not a good starting point for learning. Better to start with the clearest setups. Here's what I have; Jupiter-Saturn = USOIL EURUSD = Fear ... that's all I can...
Appreciate the reply. Yeah it seems to me we need a baseline. In astro texts, there are clear descriptions of the meanings of EVERYTHING. There needs to be those kind of definitions for astrobux issues or all you have is a mess.
  • #6,267
  • Jun 8, 2014 8:21pm Jun 8, 2014 8:21pm
Quoting Fractalist
{quote} Appreciate the reply. Yeah it seems to me we need a baseline. In astro texts, there are clear descriptions of the meanings of EVERYTHING. There needs to be those kind of definitions for astrobux issues or all you have is a mess.
Agreed....
Gregory D. Alexandr
  • #6,268
  • Jun 8, 2014 8:38pm Jun 8, 2014 8:38pm
Quoting jago25_98
Ilovepippin' : I might be able to help you with your indicator problem
No I don't have a problem. I was telling everyone that my problem was fixed by seeing Sti for a new ephemeric file.

My indi's are doing very well.
Although the new MT4 is causing quite some problems.
  • #6,269
  • Jun 9, 2014 8:33pm Jun 9, 2014 8:33pm
This is the closest I have to a cheatsheet:

EURUSD mercury/moon = counter trend
Jupiter-Saturn = USOIL
KecoaKecil's: Japan = venus, German = Mercury, American = Jupiter, UK = Saturn, Australia = Neptune

KecoaKecil : Have you double checked your most influential planet for each currency pair?
Here's the chart for each at their peaks;

EURUSD at first peak of double top: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241249/EURUSDatPeak.png
... and the 2nd top before the trend down: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241249/EURUSD_doublePeak.png

And here are 2 I'm interested in
USOIL at peak: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241249/USOIL_Peak.png
USDYEN at peak: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/241249/YenAtPeak.png
  • #6,270
  • Jun 10, 2014 6:27am Jun 10, 2014 6:27am
hi keco i would like to know how you going to trade these astrological events for different forex pairs not only eurusd
1-today we have occultation of saturn bu the moon
2-then at next friday we have venus opposite saturn and venus is jpy and saturn is gbp as you think
so is this day we should trade gbpjpy but how
3-and next saturday we have mars square pluto charon
4-wednesday 18 june we have venus sextile jupiter so this will be bearish for yen pairs or what
5-thursday 19 june sun conjunct mercury what the effect of this on eurusd or whaever pairs
i wait your reply in points like i mentioned
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  • #6,271
  • Edited 3:38pm Jun 10, 2014 3:28pm | Edited 3:38pm
Quoting Dolzsan
I'm sorry for intruding on this thread, but I must for the sake of critical thinking. I'll try to do so with the utmost respect. Whenever there is a significant market change there will be an astronomical event in our solar system. I bet if you look hard enough you can find that every single time you yawn there is some astronomical event going on. Coincidence? Of course. Try to find instead trend changes in charts that do not happen at the time or around the time of a planetary event. You will find that there is none because stuff is happening all...
Apparently, we think alike....I studied the relevance of solar events so evidence could be found to justify my process of logic...but....instead results of data applied suggested there were relevant solar evidence worth investigating further. I did not assume solar events to be whimsical science and justify my thought process based from my biases but instead reviewed data for consistencies or inconsistencies, there were more consistencies with market trends, medium and longer term trends than inconsistencies.

To investigate further I purchase software which was fed live data while managing a small portfolio for investors, over a period of 5 years, specifically in the longer term time frames, accuracy, the ability to determine market trends, turns and bubbles was irrefutable based from data analysis, the results from the software, and data interpretation by a third party.

Logic would suggest when evidence concurs with an opposing view, than we must reexamine our own perceptions, beliefs and not discount due to our environmental controls. The weight of evidence in my case simply dictated data derived from celestial movements needed to be taken more seriously, and used as I use Technical, Fundamental, Quantitative Analysis, Price Action, or Volume Spread Analysis. Which for history's sake, we must remember how much enthusiasm all of the science have been met with by the status quo.

We must always account for our thoughts and comments, as they are written, as they are done.
Gregory D. Alexandr
  • #6,272
  • Jun 10, 2014 3:55pm Jun 10, 2014 3:55pm
Quoting mesi99
today we have occultation of saturn bu the moon 2-then at next friday we have venus opposite saturn and venus is jpy
I tested this to see if it has any base.
From 1991 venus was involved in:
13 out of 14 major peaks (including the recent)
12 our of 13 major troughs

So, we can safely say that yes, JPY is venus sensitive.

I am interested in a NZDJPY sell trade. What is the planet for NZD? If it's the same as AUD then it's Neptune. Again, picking the peaks and troughs Neptune is involved alot in NZD.

So, what is Neptune doing at the time of "next friday we have venus opposite saturn and venus is jpy" = nothing.

Any confirmation? Yes, CoT report agrees in both directions.
Therefore I am going considering short at weekly scale NZDJPY.
  • #6,273
  • Jun 10, 2014 6:27pm Jun 10, 2014 6:27pm
Quoting jago25_98
{quote} I tested this to see if it has any base. From 1991 venus was involved in: 13 out of 14 major peaks (including the recent) 12 our of 13 major troughs So, we can safely say that yes, JPY is venus sensitive. I am interested in a NZDJPY sell trade. What is the planet for NZD? If it's the same as AUD then it's Neptune. Again, picking the peaks and troughs Neptune is involved alot in NZD. So, what is Neptune doing at the time of "next friday we have venus opposite saturn and venus is jpy" = nothing. Any confirmation? Yes, CoT report agrees in...
Agreed.
Gregory D. Alexandr
  • #6,274
  • Jun 11, 2014 8:06am Jun 11, 2014 8:06am
hi jago selling in nzd jpy i am not sure of that but i think jpy will be strong next days but which jpy pair i do not know
here is the natal chart of nzd
and what about other astrological events what do you think about them
i mentioned five astrological event and you comment the first what about the other four events how you going to trade them
and where are you keco
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  • #6,275
  • Jun 12, 2014 9:38am Jun 12, 2014 9:38am
Following the obvious trend that it is going to continue to fall in price, I put in a late short @ 1.35445 for $350 leveraging about 2:1.

I will be watching this closely like a hawk.
  • #6,276
  • Jun 16, 2014 8:18pm Jun 16, 2014 8:18pm
Been missing so much. I notice we have AUD vehicle sales report. Last month still in direct mercury, but the release today is in retro mercury. Let see if the number influenced by direct (actual timing) or retro (reporting time)
Don't blame the tools. Blame the carpenter.
  • #6,277
  • Jun 16, 2014 11:39pm Jun 16, 2014 11:39pm
Last month, GBPUSD follow the Jupiter-Moon line nicely. Let see if for the next 1 month, it will be the case.
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  • #6,278
  • Jun 17, 2014 7:42am Jun 17, 2014 7:42am
Quoting KecoaKecil
Last month, GBPUSD follow the Jupiter-Moon line nicely. Let see if for the next 1 month, it will be the case. {image}
Not exactly follow jupiter, kind of "sluggish", direction looks south. Any other opinion of other planet could be in effect?
Don't blame the tools. Blame the carpenter.
  • #6,279
  • Jun 17, 2014 11:40am Jun 17, 2014 11:40am
Reaaaly never thought I'd post in FF again, but here I am!
The market has been quiet and challenging for sure as of late, and with some of the 'free-time' I've had so far in summer, I've compiled a basic strategy/research report on Lunar Cycles and the EUR/USD over here at my blog. (No, my blog has no commercial intent whatsoever to sell you anything).

Obviously, I'm posting it here because it's to cater towards the esoteric interest, and if anything it's super basic, but I hope you find whatever value you may find in it for purely curiosity, or for further research/strategy development purposes.

Hope all is well!
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #6,280
  • Jun 17, 2014 6:54pm Jun 17, 2014 6:54pm
bumpa! finally crossed back from the dark side? (commercial member) haha
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