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  • #61
  • Jun 15, 2014 2:53am Jun 15, 2014 2:53am
Quoting bobha
Sati, here is an example as per your request. Look to the left of the vertical red line. {image}
LOL. do you even know what you are pointing out?
Do you even know the meaning of repainting?

1) Thats two different indicators
2) the one on the left, is smoothed while the one on the right is not.

Completely different.
Stop trying to ruin this thread with baseless posts like that
Appreciate it.

Have a good day
  • #62
  • Jun 15, 2014 2:57am Jun 15, 2014 2:57am
Hi guys, this thread is being sidetracked and its barely started!

The fact is I post past references as well as the trades that I am taking. so its not just the past. its the present as well.
if you like what you see then lets help each other out here.

Will be posting more charts soon! to get a better idea of the system!

Have a good day everyone!
  • #63
  • Jun 15, 2014 3:56am Jun 15, 2014 3:56am
By the look of the ups and downs I would say the one on the right is smoothed, while the one on the left looks fairly jagged to me. To be continued; my dinner is ready.
  • #64
  • Jun 15, 2014 4:06am Jun 15, 2014 4:06am
Quoting bobha
By the look of the ups and downs I would say the one on the right is smoothed, while the one on the left looks fairly jagged to me. To be continued; my dinner is ready.
alright.
whatever works for you.
  • #65
  • Jun 15, 2014 6:46am Jun 15, 2014 6:46am
Quoting saticdoor86
{quote} alright. whatever works for you.
Hello saticdoor86.
Thank you very much for this formidable trading system.
My small contribution I hope to be helpful to all
I added Heiken Ashi and a moving average and you can see more clearly the trend.
Regards,
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  • #66
  • Jun 15, 2014 8:11am Jun 15, 2014 8:11am
hello prudent02 would you mind posting the arrow indicator if it is free.

sorry for posting of the topic tried sending a pm to prudent02 but could not so posting here.

Thanks
  • #67
  • Jun 15, 2014 10:44am Jun 15, 2014 10:44am
Quoting saticdoor86
{quote} show me examples of it repainting them? instead of just claiming. you have to wait for the candle to close first before confirming the fisher signal.
Your Fisher repaints- period.
On the chart below I have marked a heavy white vertical line where the Fisher you are using has distorted history. It has nothing to do with smoothing.
The white vertical lines show instances when looking back on a chart indicates a trade entrance and in actuality there was none.
You can see this by comparing the non repainting Fisher (top) with the version you are using (bottom).

This isn't to ruin your thread it's just to shine a light on it. If that ruins it, it should tell you something.
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  • #68
  • Jun 15, 2014 12:21pm Jun 15, 2014 12:21pm
As a side note, If anyone doubts the posted Fisher-Yur4ik repaints, put it on a 1 min chart with live traffic on it. You'll see it repaint.
If it repaints there (it does), it will repaint on any time frame. You just don't have to wait as long to see it.
It will repaint after as many as 4 or 5 closed bars- maybe more.
  • #69
  • Jun 15, 2014 1:08pm Jun 15, 2014 1:08pm
Hi Prudent

what are the settings for heiken Ashi and the arrow indicator?

Thanks!
Quoting prudente02
{quote} Hello saticdoor86. Thank you very much for this formidable trading system. My small contribution I hope to be helpful to all I added Heiken Ashi and a moving average and you can see more clearly the trend. Regards, {image}
  • #70
  • Jun 15, 2014 1:48pm Jun 15, 2014 1:48pm
Quoting newforex21
hello prudent02 would you mind posting the arrow indicator if it is free. sorry for posting of the topic tried sending a pm to prudent02 but could not so posting here. Thanks
Quoting connect_ananth
Hi Prudent what are the settings for heiken Ashi and the arrow indicator? Thanks! {quote}
Heiken Ashi :
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Heiken_Ashi_Ma2.mq4   3 KB | 884 downloads

The other indicator that show arrows:
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 RSI5-3EMA_MTF, 1H.mq4   9 KB | 932 downloads

This indicator is like cross rsi. I use in first 4 options: d1,2,2,5.
You can see the similarity in daily chart:
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  • #71
  • Jun 15, 2014 3:30pm Jun 15, 2014 3:30pm
First let me say I appreciate your research and sharing. I've spent so much time in front of charts I've taken to wearing sunscreen indoors...

One of the best things about FF threads is the opportunity for many to work together on the same project. It could be that some posts are motivated by ego. Even those folks are in a learning mode and I also appreciate them.

Billbss (imo) does make a valid point. 'Fisher_Yur4ik_2' does indeed, repaint, at least according to user Comer (http://www.forexfactory.com/comer) who I ran across in another thread about 2 years ago. He did rework the Fisher indy to eliminate the repaint issue. (Please note attachment below "Symphonie Alt Indies") in which he explains inherent problems with several indicators.

Please note; Should you wish I make no further mention of this in your post, I will honor your request.
Darryl
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File Type: pdf Symphonie Alt Indies.pdf   65 KB | 1,088 downloads
  • #72
  • Jun 15, 2014 5:20pm Jun 15, 2014 5:20pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Your Fisher repaints- period. On the chart below I have marked a heavy white vertical line where the Fisher you are using has distorted history. It has nothing to do with smoothing. The white vertical lines show instances when looking back on a chart indicates a trade entrance and in actuality there was none. You can see this by comparing the non repainting Fisher (top) with the version you are using (bottom). This isn't to ruin your thread it's just to shine a light on it. If that ruins it, it should tell you something. {image}
Accepted that his fisher repaints.

It will be a great system if the other non repaint fisher can be adjusted that it is same as the previous one.

Can u pls do this for us or help us with a better indicator that will make this sys powerful?
I am more afraid of 100 sheep led by a lion than 100 lions led by a sheep!
  • #73
  • Jun 15, 2014 5:33pm Jun 15, 2014 5:33pm
Quoting Opemipo
{quote} Accepted that his fisher repaints.It will be a great system if the other non repaint fisher can be adjusted that it is same as the previous one.Can u pls do this for us or help us with a better indicator that will makeb this sys powerful?
No. All I can say is that anyone who tries to visually back test this system should use the non repainting Fisher. If you don't you're fooling yourself.
If it does not show to be profitable on the back test, I would forget it and look for a system that has an edge.
  • #74
  • Jun 15, 2014 5:38pm Jun 15, 2014 5:38pm
Quoting prudente02
{quote} {quote} Heiken Ashi : {file} The other indicator that show arrows: {file} This indicator is like cross rsi. I use in first 4 options: d1,2,2,5. You can see the similarity in daily chart: {image}
Hi Prudent2 would you mind posting a template.
  • #75
  • Jun 15, 2014 5:46pm Jun 15, 2014 5:46pm
Quoting prudente02
{quote} {quote} Heiken Ashi : {file} The other indicator that show arrows: {file} This indicator is like cross rsi. I use in first 4 options: d1,2,2,5. You can see the similarity in daily chart: {image}
Thanks for ur generosity!

Could u pls re-attach the RSI arrow indicator?

It is not showing on my chart!

Thanks!
I am more afraid of 100 sheep led by a lion than 100 lions led by a sheep!
  • #76
  • Jun 15, 2014 5:56pm Jun 15, 2014 5:56pm
Quoting atraderfx
{quote} Hi Prudent2 would you mind posting a template.
Attached File(s)
File Type: tpl 2rsiHA.tpl   45 KB | 648 downloads
  • #77
  • Jun 15, 2014 6:21pm Jun 15, 2014 6:21pm
Quoting prudente02
{quote} {file}
Sorry my brother

The arrow is still not showing from ur template.

Thanks for ur prompt response!
I am more afraid of 100 sheep led by a lion than 100 lions led by a sheep!
  • #78
  • Jun 16, 2014 12:24am Jun 16, 2014 12:24am
Saticdoor86
My post #48 says that my A/J 4 hour chart shows a sell.
My chart on post #56 shows the 4 hour A/J as a sell. Your post #51 says your 4 hour A/J chart shows a buy.
Please help me understand what I am doing wrong. I am using the non repainting Fisher.
By the way, I took the sell trade and am plus pips now.
  • #79
  • Jun 16, 2014 1:35am Jun 16, 2014 1:35am
Quoting Syracuse
Saticdoor86 My post #48 says that my A/J 4 hour chart shows a sell. My chart on post #56 shows the 4 hour A/J as a sell. Your post #51 says your 4 hour A/J chart shows a buy. Please help me understand what I am doing wrong. I am using the non repainting Fisher. By the way, I took the sell trade and am plus pips now.
Daily is long, you should think twice about the short. It is wise to close the trade.
Every man who thinks ahead of his time is sure to be misunderstood.
  • #80
  • Jun 16, 2014 2:52am Jun 16, 2014 2:52am
Here's a link discussing the fisher repaint. http://www.greattradingsystems.com/i...or-metatrader/
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